Posted on 02/27/2009 8:34:48 AM PST by DouglasKC
You may have read that the Obama administration has altered United States government policy and has sanctioned "medical" marijuana by ending raids on "clinics" where "medical" marijuana is passed out.
The use of quotes in the paragraph above is deliberate. It's my view and the views of millions of conservatives that there is no such thing as "medical" marijuana...or at least in the way it's being presented to the public.
"Medical" marijuana is simply a term for pot being sold for profit under the guise that it helps a plethora of medical problems. The "clinics" are essentially drug dens that are attempting to gain a little more respectability. It has been the policy of the United States government to raid and shut down these clinics.
Now here's the problem. There are many so called conservatives that support these drug dens. They say that it's a states right issue. That this isn't a power delegated to the United States government.
Clearly this is a debatable point. For example I would offer that it's in the best interest of the country to ban something that is in the worst interest of the country. For example if we had a communist power develop a drug that would make our citizens lazy and unproductive then nobody would argue that we should allow this power to freely distribute this drug in the United States. There would be no hew and cry about "states rights".
But nonetheless there are those who have seized upon the issue of "medical" marijuana as the ultimate expression of states rights. That's fine. That's their rights as Americans. But here's what I wish.
I wish they would be honest and apply the same standard to abortion and pornography. I wish they would stand up and proclaim that abortion and pornography are in the same league. Because if you want to embrace their viewpoint you MUST embrace pornography and abortion.
Abortion, by their logic, should also be a state right. Pornography, by their logic, should also be a state right. Yet the federal government has mandated, by court decisions and law, that the support of these issues are the law of the land.
Now I happen to believe the opposite. I think these two issues are so dangerous to the country as a whole that they SHOULD be banned nationwide for the common welfare of the union of states.
What happened? It's easy. Religious morality stopped in government. We went from a nation governed by religion based morals a government based on amoral, or immoral principles. And let me make it clear..when I say religious morals I'm talking precisely about Judeo-Christian morality...or at least what this morality used to be.
And here's what these so called new conservatives fail to conserve. They fail to conserve the religious morality that stopped our leaders from ruling from a non-principled viewpoint. They fail to conserve the idea that right and wrong don't come from man or man's laws, but from God, the creator of man. They fail to conserve the notion that certain things are repugnant to God and to those who have His morals.
They have taken up the mantle of the 60's generation. Sex and drugs. Don't tell us what to do. We don't like your morals. Once they succeeded in tearing down God, they began working on the government.
John Adams, the 2nd President of the United States said "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."
Oh so true. Without morals and religion our constitution fails. It breaks. It doesn't work. It's inadequate. It can be twisted and shaped to whatever viewpoint the rulers want.
Pot. Abortion. Pornography. All of these are issues that a moral people and a moral government instinctively reject. But remove morality from the equation and anything goes. God save us.
Kickback on a 12 inch chop saw is the worst.
BTW... The Left uses the same arguments you did about "lethality" and modern firearms. They are equally as wrong.
“Sorry, you’re being inconsistent. If it’s not an enumerated power than it’s reserved to the states...at least that’s the opinion of leftist cause supporting conservatives.”
One can easily assert it is an enumerated power since the Constitution does not state when life begins. If one believes life begins at conception, then there is no question the fetus is entitled to protection against loss of life without due process. I have no idea what you mean by “leftist cause supporting conservatives.”
“Moral relatively. This is exactly the attitude that leftists pushed to get a destructive behavior mainstream. And it worked.”
Bottom line, I believe in free speech. You happen to believe pornography is destructive even though there is no evidence to prove that. You don’t like it and you think it is immoral, which is perfectly legitimate, but where do you get the right to decide what other people should read and view? In any case, I come back to my argument, unless you can define exactly where the line is between what is pornography and what is not pornography I’d rather not have you determining what I am entitled to read based on what you think is decent. None of you people who want to ban pornography are ever willing to discuss where you think the limit should be. Should it be any nudity as in Playboy, graphic sex acts, simulated sex acts, provocative nude paintings, or just anything that brings on sexual arousal? Please define it for me.
Looks up a book called “The Good Old Naughty Days”. ;-)
Seems like they should have worked more on strengthening their society than making drugs and prostitution easier to obtain.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes. It is used to treat problems with enlarged veins.
Medicinal cocaine?
Yes. It has several uses, including eye drops for certain conditions.
Yes
Medicinal morphine?
Yes, of course.
Was your point that there aren't such uses, or that there are?
Isn't this some kind of communist tactic? To tear down the founders of America as to make it more palatable to destroy the American values?
Thing is before big government, we had families that progressed from thrift to wealth and then decadence naturally, and they only took themselves down and in a economic Darwin type way, made room for other thrifty moral people to take their place.
No the government is taking us all down. So, it is like Rome.
And also like Rome, yeomen tradesmen like myself are seeing the government as the enemy, and the two parties as but competing hyenas that feed of the flesh of the productive so that they and theirs can get fat.
In short.
The US Government is evil and my enemy.
“I oppose them because they’re harmful to society.”
Many things are harmful to society and among the most harmful are rules that try and protect people from themselves. If I want to sit in my living room and smoke pot and watch porn how in the world does that affect you?
You seem to have bought the leftist propaganda hook, line and sinker. Do you think that's it's likely that IF these are accurate quotes that they were using the plant for smoking? Do you think they were growing and selling it so that they could get people stoned? Or do you think there just might be another explanation?
You forgot to add in abortion. And homosexuality. And orgies. And everything else that a moral society would recognize as wrong.
I want a resurgence of people who not only want their liberty back, but are willing to shoulder the responsibility that goes along with it. In EVERY avenue of their lives. I want people to look first to their own lives and leave their neighbors alone. They keep trying to make hay out of the speck in my eye and I just may set fire to the log in theirs just to see if it gets their attention...
Apparently you didn't read the article. They were moral. They believed that morality and religion would keep these evils at bay. Of course leftists, in a relatively short time, managed to destroy morality in America and take it out of our constitution and our government. With that obstacle removed it was only a matter of time until they convinced so called conservatives that their issues (pot, porn and abortion among others) were hot topic issues that are protected by the constitution. Snort...it's like Dr. Evil has succeeded in a master plan.
That's the way it should be. I sure as hell don't want government doing it.
Logic not allowed.
I don’t have the thick mustache, body type or attire to be an “orgy guy,” or any willing orgie-chicks, but if I did it would be nobody’s business.
lol...hell no we won't go! Fight the power! Tune in, turn on, drop out!
Right on bro! Free love! Cast off the shackles of those repressive morals!
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