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Porn, Pot and Abortion
Exclusive to FreeRepublic ^ | 2/27/2009 | DouglasKC

Posted on 02/27/2009 8:34:48 AM PST by DouglasKC

Porn, Pot and Abortion

You may have read that the Obama administration has altered United States government policy and has sanctioned "medical" marijuana by ending raids on "clinics" where "medical" marijuana is passed out.

The use of quotes in the paragraph above is deliberate. It's my view and the views of millions of conservatives that there is no such thing as "medical" marijuana...or at least in the way it's being presented to the public.

"Medical" marijuana is simply a term for pot being sold for profit under the guise that it helps a plethora of medical problems. The "clinics" are essentially drug dens that are attempting to gain a little more respectability. It has been the policy of the United States government to raid and shut down these clinics.

Now here's the problem. There are many so called conservatives that support these drug dens. They say that it's a states right issue. That this isn't a power delegated to the United States government.

Clearly this is a debatable point. For example I would offer that it's in the best interest of the country to ban something that is in the worst interest of the country. For example if we had a communist power develop a drug that would make our citizens lazy and unproductive then nobody would argue that we should allow this power to freely distribute this drug in the United States. There would be no hew and cry about "states rights".

But nonetheless there are those who have seized upon the issue of "medical" marijuana as the ultimate expression of states rights. That's fine. That's their rights as Americans. But here's what I wish.

I wish they would be honest and apply the same standard to abortion and pornography. I wish they would stand up and proclaim that abortion and pornography are in the same league. Because if you want to embrace their viewpoint you MUST embrace pornography and abortion.

Abortion, by their logic, should also be a state right. Pornography, by their logic, should also be a state right. Yet the federal government has mandated, by court decisions and law, that the support of these issues are the law of the land.

Now I happen to believe the opposite. I think these two issues are so dangerous to the country as a whole that they SHOULD be banned nationwide for the common welfare of the union of states.

What happened? It's easy. Religious morality stopped in government. We went from a nation governed by religion based morals a government based on amoral, or immoral principles. And let me make it clear..when I say religious morals I'm talking precisely about Judeo-Christian morality...or at least what this morality used to be.

And here's what these so called new conservatives fail to conserve. They fail to conserve the religious morality that stopped our leaders from ruling from a non-principled viewpoint. They fail to conserve the idea that right and wrong don't come from man or man's laws, but from God, the creator of man. They fail to conserve the notion that certain things are repugnant to God and to those who have His morals.

They have taken up the mantle of the 60's generation. Sex and drugs. Don't tell us what to do. We don't like your morals. Once they succeeded in tearing down God, they began working on the government.

John Adams, the 2nd President of the United States said "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."

Oh so true. Without morals and religion our constitution fails. It breaks. It doesn't work. It's inadequate. It can be twisted and shaped to whatever viewpoint the rulers want.

Pot. Abortion. Pornography. All of these are issues that a moral people and a moral government instinctively reject. But remove morality from the equation and anything goes. God save us.


TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: abortion; angrydopers; anslingersghost; blackjazzmusicians; bloggersandpersonal; channelingharry; culturewars; jackbootedthugs; marijuana; moralabsolutes; pot
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Comment #241 Removed by Moderator

To: timm22
Come on man. If you're going to take one part of the argument go the distance!
Wouldn't it be fair to expect the same approach from you?
If so, when do you think we should start the summary executions for dressing immodestly or disrespecting one's elders?

Has the United States government ever executed anyone for dressing immodestly? Or disrespecting one's elders?

242 posted on 02/27/2009 3:06:21 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC
I didn't say it would be easy...

It wouldn't matter if you did or didn't. You've already said you don't know.

244 posted on 02/27/2009 3:13:00 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Moonman62

actually, it is NOT prohibition there...It is welfare given to areas that don’t condone alcohol. Plus they have MASSIVE education/preventive and treatment programs way wya wya out of proportion to what we do.


245 posted on 02/27/2009 3:27:48 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (" IT'S OBAMA'S FAULT !" ( just getting a head start..hee.))
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To: DouglasKC
Has the United States government ever executed anyone for dressing immodestly? Or disrespecting one's elders?

You might want to have a look at what's been going on in Washington before you start making argument implying that it's safe to assume the US government won't do anything it's never done before.

246 posted on 02/27/2009 3:32:26 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist; Arrogant Bastard

At the risk of getting flamed for my screen name ( which refers to recovering from liberalism) and told to “go back to your bong” statistics show that a very large percentage of americans use marijuana socially with no ill effects, morally, financially, legally etc....I will support you’re reasoned posts.

The fact that the vast majority of white, middle or upper class NEVER get arrested or do any jail time, leaves poor minorities which then become the melodramatic poster children of drug use.
If suddenly within a month all those types ( white upper class )not previously arrested WERE taken in, pot would become legal overnight.

So the huge hypocrisy is that we continue to drive drugs underground, destroy countries south of our borders, encourage crime and yet, those that are in the majority of pot users that are NOT arrested let this charade continue.

Alcohol and pot are about equal, with alcohol being somehwat MORE dangerous. Yet we do not prohibit alcohol.

My IRA lost over 50% of its value, Iran and Korea are ready to send us nukes, we have millions of illegals, abortion continues unabated....and the Puritans want me to continue the failed WOD???You have got to be kidding.


247 posted on 02/27/2009 3:46:32 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (" IT'S OBAMA'S FAULT !" ( just getting a head start..hee.))
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To: Leisler

maybe you are confusing pointy-headed intellectualism with intellectual honesty


248 posted on 02/27/2009 4:15:45 PM PST by fnord (There's a reason we don't often hear about a Michelob deal gone bad.)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
My IRA lost over 50% of its value, Iran and Korea are ready to send us nukes, we have millions of illegals, abortion continues unabated....and the Puritans want me to continue the failed WOD???You have got to be kidding.

Welcome to single-issue land.

249 posted on 02/27/2009 4:19:37 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: DouglasKC

“Do you want to continue this from a biblical perspective?”

No, it’s not relevant to the issues.


250 posted on 02/27/2009 4:27:16 PM PST by yazoo
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To: yazoo
“Do you want to continue this from a biblical perspective?”
No, it’s not relevant to the issues.

That's the problem. It ought to be.

251 posted on 02/27/2009 4:50:34 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: tacticalogic
I didn't say it would be easy...
It wouldn't matter if you did or didn't. You've already said you don't know.

I meant that it wouldn't be easy to gain wisdom. And you're right, I don't know anything and I don't pretend to.

252 posted on 02/27/2009 4:54:10 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC

“That’s the problem. It ought to be.”

You can certainly be guided in what you believe by the bible and pressure the government accordingly. And, you can try and convince me what is in it should be the basis of law, but once you demand certain things be banned because the bible demands it, you are establishing a religion that all people have to accept whether they like it or not.


253 posted on 02/27/2009 6:15:56 PM PST by yazoo
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To: DouglasKC
I meant that it wouldn't be easy to gain wisdom. And you're right, I don't know anything and I don't pretend to.

And yet you suppose to educate everyone else.

254 posted on 02/27/2009 6:22:49 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

lol!!!


255 posted on 02/27/2009 6:31:04 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (" IT'S OBAMA'S FAULT !" ( just getting a head start..hee.))
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To: DouglasKC

So you are a Utopian fascist. Got it. At least you are truthful. Many try to hide it.


256 posted on 02/27/2009 7:37:51 PM PST by Dead Corpse (Te odeo, interfice te cochleare)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

“...use marijuana socially with no ill effects, morally, financially, legally...”
What about the idea that willfully violating the law in this way leads people to believe that it is OK to ignore the law? What about the fact that the marijuana supply line is a violent lawless murdering entity which takes over more of America each year? You choose to ignore these ill effects? Or do you believe that they are OK?


257 posted on 02/27/2009 8:26:07 PM PST by whipitgood (Real Americans don't allow socialists to take over their country.)
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To: Admin Moderator
So if you don't want that kind of retort, don't run around calling others 'dopers' with no evidence of such.

Thank You. Another reason to love FR. I'm so sick and tired of 90%+ of responses to my civilized discussions being simply "you're a doper...dude...you're so dumb" with the stereotypical doper hippie accent.

258 posted on 02/28/2009 6:37:48 AM PST by varyouga (People silently freezing in Kentucky. Obama doesn't care about white people!)
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To: Moonman62
That's right. Prohibition failed because it wasn't a true prohibition.

"Communism is perfect! The only problem is that no nation so far has practiced true Communism!"

Man, rarely has a handle been more apropos -- only someone who's been living in a cave on the moon could be so out of touch with reality here on earth.

259 posted on 02/28/2009 6:44:18 AM PST by steve-b (Intelligent design is to evolutionary biology what socialism is to free-market economics.)
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To: DouglasKC
pot being sold for profit

Frofit?! EWWW YUK YUK ANTISOCIAL UNMUTUAL EWWWW EWWWWW!!!

260 posted on 02/28/2009 6:50:15 AM PST by steve-b (Intelligent design is to evolutionary biology what socialism is to free-market economics.)
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