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Porn, Pot and Abortion
Exclusive to FreeRepublic ^ | 2/27/2009 | DouglasKC

Posted on 02/27/2009 8:34:48 AM PST by DouglasKC

Porn, Pot and Abortion

You may have read that the Obama administration has altered United States government policy and has sanctioned "medical" marijuana by ending raids on "clinics" where "medical" marijuana is passed out.

The use of quotes in the paragraph above is deliberate. It's my view and the views of millions of conservatives that there is no such thing as "medical" marijuana...or at least in the way it's being presented to the public.

"Medical" marijuana is simply a term for pot being sold for profit under the guise that it helps a plethora of medical problems. The "clinics" are essentially drug dens that are attempting to gain a little more respectability. It has been the policy of the United States government to raid and shut down these clinics.

Now here's the problem. There are many so called conservatives that support these drug dens. They say that it's a states right issue. That this isn't a power delegated to the United States government.

Clearly this is a debatable point. For example I would offer that it's in the best interest of the country to ban something that is in the worst interest of the country. For example if we had a communist power develop a drug that would make our citizens lazy and unproductive then nobody would argue that we should allow this power to freely distribute this drug in the United States. There would be no hew and cry about "states rights".

But nonetheless there are those who have seized upon the issue of "medical" marijuana as the ultimate expression of states rights. That's fine. That's their rights as Americans. But here's what I wish.

I wish they would be honest and apply the same standard to abortion and pornography. I wish they would stand up and proclaim that abortion and pornography are in the same league. Because if you want to embrace their viewpoint you MUST embrace pornography and abortion.

Abortion, by their logic, should also be a state right. Pornography, by their logic, should also be a state right. Yet the federal government has mandated, by court decisions and law, that the support of these issues are the law of the land.

Now I happen to believe the opposite. I think these two issues are so dangerous to the country as a whole that they SHOULD be banned nationwide for the common welfare of the union of states.

What happened? It's easy. Religious morality stopped in government. We went from a nation governed by religion based morals a government based on amoral, or immoral principles. And let me make it clear..when I say religious morals I'm talking precisely about Judeo-Christian morality...or at least what this morality used to be.

And here's what these so called new conservatives fail to conserve. They fail to conserve the religious morality that stopped our leaders from ruling from a non-principled viewpoint. They fail to conserve the idea that right and wrong don't come from man or man's laws, but from God, the creator of man. They fail to conserve the notion that certain things are repugnant to God and to those who have His morals.

They have taken up the mantle of the 60's generation. Sex and drugs. Don't tell us what to do. We don't like your morals. Once they succeeded in tearing down God, they began working on the government.

John Adams, the 2nd President of the United States said "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."

Oh so true. Without morals and religion our constitution fails. It breaks. It doesn't work. It's inadequate. It can be twisted and shaped to whatever viewpoint the rulers want.

Pot. Abortion. Pornography. All of these are issues that a moral people and a moral government instinctively reject. But remove morality from the equation and anything goes. God save us.


TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: abortion; angrydopers; anslingersghost; blackjazzmusicians; bloggersandpersonal; channelingharry; culturewars; jackbootedthugs; marijuana; moralabsolutes; pot
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To: Responsibility2nd
1) If the author of #33 feels (he clearly doesn't think) that #4 was a flame, he needs to grow a thicker skin.

2) The author of #4 could, I suppose, be called a Jeffersonian Liberal ... but he doesn't much care for labels at all.

3) The author of #33 seems to be a very confused individual ... even more so than the author of the vanity post that we're discussing.

41 posted on 02/27/2009 9:11:12 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Glock19C

Please see post #36.


42 posted on 02/27/2009 9:11:22 AM PST by Enterprise (A Representative Republic - gone now. Foolish people.)
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To: dirtboy

The only way to truely enforce a prohibition is within a police state with severe punishments i.e. death/life sentencing, and even then you won’t stop all people from altering thier consciousness.
Inmates in prison can still get high if they have the right connections.
Prohibition just doesn’t work.
Abortion is WAY more damaging and sinful then smoking dope or watching porn, nobody has died from either but abortion kills every person it’s performed upon.


44 posted on 02/27/2009 9:11:37 AM PST by TheKidster (you can only trust government to grow, consolidate power and infringe upon your liberties.)
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To: TheKidster

Why Hello Kidster!

Fancy meeting you in another DRUGS ARE GOOD thread!


45 posted on 02/27/2009 9:12:55 AM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: DouglasKC

How many are killed smoking pot and watching/making porn.


46 posted on 02/27/2009 9:13:03 AM PST by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: mkjessup; ArrogantBustard

Knock it off.


47 posted on 02/27/2009 9:13:05 AM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: isom35

Well, aren’t we blessed.


48 posted on 02/27/2009 9:13:30 AM PST by Misterioso (Obama was elected not in spite of his color but because of it.)
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To: DouglasKC
For example I would offer that it's in the best interest of the country to ban something that is in the worst interest of the country. For example if we had a communist power develop a drug that would make our citizens lazy and unproductive then nobody would argue that we should allow this power to freely distribute this drug in the United States. There would be no hew and cry about "states rights"

Excellent post!

49 posted on 02/27/2009 9:13:44 AM PST by AmericaUnite
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To: ArrogantBustard

I see you didn’t waste any time calling the WAAAAMbulance, you can dish it out, but you sure can’t take it.


50 posted on 02/27/2009 9:14:06 AM PST by mkjessup (You're either with our Constitution, or you are with TKU ("The Kenyan Usurper"). CHOOSE!!!)
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To: DouglasKC
For example if we had a communist power develop a drug that would make our citizens lazy and unproductive then nobody would argue that we should allow this power to freely distribute this drug in the United States. There would be no hew [sic!] and cry about "states rights".

To begin with, the expression is "hue and cry" (from the Latin: hutesium et clamor, "a horn and shouting"). To "hew" means to cut.

Secondly, a drug which makes our citizenry lazy and unproductive is already freely available throughout most of the Unites States. It is called alcohol. But alcohol does more than just make (some) people lazy and unproductive: When consumed by pregnant women, it can also cause birth defects. Marijuana, in contrast, does not cause birth defects.

Regards,

51 posted on 02/27/2009 9:14:40 AM PST by alexander_busek
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To: TheKidster

The only way to truely enforce a prohibition is within a police state with severe punishments


I know what you are saying but it used to be controlled by local goverment and local enforcement. At least for the community that wanted to control it.


52 posted on 02/27/2009 9:14:41 AM PST by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: tioga
I don't much care for any of the consequences of the "War on Drugs".

Has it ever occurred to you to wonder why liquor store owners manage to resolve their disputes with each other and with unruly customers through the police and courts, whilst cocaine store owners (so to speak) must resolve all disputes via gang violence?

53 posted on 02/27/2009 9:14:49 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: DouglasKC

......so my cancer-riddled grandmother shouldn’t smoke the whacky to curb her nausea caused by her chemo?

Not even if it increases her quality of life??


54 posted on 02/27/2009 9:14:53 AM PST by ElectricStrawberry (27th Infantry Regiment....cut in half during the Clinton years...)
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To: DouglasKC
For what it's worth.

About $0.02, the standard, customary rate for bloviating.

55 posted on 02/27/2009 9:15:44 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: mkjessup

He didn’t mash abuse. We spotted this one on our own - the mods keep an eye on drug war threads, there is a high probability of finding personal attacks. Knock off the personal attacks and name-calling or leave this thread.


56 posted on 02/27/2009 9:16:03 AM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: Responsibility2nd

Happy Friday Responsibility2nd. I knew you’d show up. Have a good discussion and a nice weekend!

and you’re wrong :>)


57 posted on 02/27/2009 9:16:09 AM PST by TheKidster (you can only trust government to grow, consolidate power and infringe upon your liberties.)
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To: MetaThought

I’ve self prescribed Dr. Jack Daniels for pain relief a time or two.


58 posted on 02/27/2009 9:16:24 AM PST by Enterprise (A Representative Republic - gone now. Foolish people.)
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To: Moonman62
Exactly!!!

The clarion call of Dems and libs is to control the behavior of people. Can't let them drink, can't let them smoke anything!!!!

59 posted on 02/27/2009 9:17:19 AM PST by starlifter (Sapor Amo Pullus)
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