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1 posted on 03/15/2009 7:12:05 PM PDT by george76
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There are a several ways to go Galt. Check this out, I had never heard of it, but it sounds like a step in the right direction because it starves the beast by repealing the 16th amendment and there already seems to be a movement. There are currently nine States which have already endorsed the Liberty Amendment. They are: Wyoming (’59) • Nevada (’60) • Texas (’60) • Louisiana (’60) • Georgia (’62) • South Carolina (’62) • Mississippi (’82) • Arizona (’82) • Indiana (’82) The sight is: http://zakklemmer.vox.com/library/post/the-liberty-amendment-to-repeal-the-16th-amendment.html I have also been seeking an alternative conservative party and 2010 may be the year to test the water on that front. I started reading up on the Libertarians but I’m not convinced???


46 posted on 03/15/2009 9:39:55 PM PDT by John.Galt2012
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STARVE THE BEAST!

Atlas Shrugged ping!

47 posted on 03/15/2009 9:51:09 PM PDT by jellybean (Who is John Galt? ~ Bookmark http://altfreerepublic.freeforums.org for when FR is down)
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Actually, it’s really just a big con game. Everyone that is participating in the surrender of their freedoms is pretty much doing it voluntarily. We talk big, but are never really willing to do anything about it, and the rest are just fools who have been programmed since youth to go along with what ever the status quo tells them. If We The People would actually rise up at the local level and tell our governments what to do and make them take the orders and not the other way around, then we would get our freedom back, but no-one is doing that anymore. And btw, I think our founding fathers had it right with their hands on/DIY approach to government.


48 posted on 03/15/2009 10:01:21 PM PDT by Force of Truth (Sarah Palin in 2012!!!!!! WOOOHOOOOO!!!!!!!!!)
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I feel like we are slowly being boiled.. with no real escape.


55 posted on 03/15/2009 11:09:23 PM PDT by divine_moment_of_facts
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I've already Shrugged.
Years ago I went semi-Galt.

Left the big time of letting people use my mind and creativity, closed my productive and (generally) highly profitable businesses and only took the occasional 'flunky' level jobs to learn stuff for my own education and skill learning.

Last year, for the first time since I was 12 years old, I made sure I had no legally taxable income.

All this started before Mr. Thompson Obama was elected President.
I'm currently building my own self sufficient mini-Gulch.
Homey don't play dis no mo.

60 posted on 03/16/2009 1:52:11 AM PDT by LegendHasIt (Freepmail me if you want to join the Precious Metals ping list.)
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The Beast is being slain by a bigger beast, deflation.

The end comes within hours after the next dollar of debt produces negative GDP. Exponential math, systemic failure.

62 posted on 03/16/2009 2:38:00 AM PDT by Vet_6780 ("I see debt people")
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Atlas doesn’t get to shrug. Atlas is going to have to fight. If Atlas believes anything else Atlas is engaging in wishful thinking.


63 posted on 03/16/2009 3:07:09 AM PDT by TalBlack
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I believe there's a disturbance in the force, and the control freaks are losing control. I believe the tax slaves are finally figuring things out, and they're not happy about it.
Not only are they supporting the democrat base here in the U.S., but they're supporting the entire world as well - BEFORE they have a chance to feed their own families.

Galt is the only way to kill the beast. I hope that's happening. It'll be a rough ride, but the rewards in the end will be worth it.

65 posted on 03/16/2009 4:57:53 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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“collectivism’s ultimate failure wherever tried”

those that think socialism has always failed don’t understand its purpose


68 posted on 03/16/2009 5:21:08 AM PDT by fnord (There's a reason we don't often hear about a Michelob deal gone bad.)
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Hopefully never. Despite her facile, repetitive writing style, Ayn Rand seems to be one of those authors that people discuss more than they read. Has the author read the book?

The result of Atlas Shrugging (or Going Galt, or however you want to put it) was that civilization collapsed and billions of people died. Rand never could align several of her issues, and as such, there’s a fair amount of incoherency in her books.

See, while Rand idolizes all the titans of industry (which she supposes must all think like her in the end), she depicts them as fatalist cowards. Rather than fight back and fend off the nanny-state, she depicts them as all retreating to a “Eureka”-like village, adopting the tactics of the labor movement she so abhors. They never do step back in when they declare, “see, you guys do need us!” (Although the book does include a 150-page rehash of all of its ideas, “This is John Galt.”) Instead, they watch billions of people die while they retreat to an existence closer to Rousseau’s ideal than Edison’s, Reagan’s or Locke’s. In some ways, it’s a fantastically better written companion piece to “The Turner Diaries.”

Eddie is the character which most exposes Rand’s confusion. While the “heroine” Dagny Taggart is going off exploring her sexuality with three different lovers, it’s Eddie, not Dagny, who literally keeps the trains running, demonstrating leadership, intelligence and creativity. Rand actually details his fantastic role in quite some detail. But because Eddie isn’t the ideologue that Dagny is, the reader never gets his point-of-view in the literary sense. At the end, he’s left outside the Eureka-like village.


69 posted on 03/16/2009 5:34:13 AM PDT by dangus
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Never.
Atlas has bills to pay and a family to feed. If he shrugs, they get evicted and/or starve.
One of the things I always noticed about Galt’s Gulch and Rand’s heroes - there are never any kids... Maybe they’re not allowed to be seen OR heard... or maybe she forgot completely about them.


72 posted on 03/16/2009 6:17:26 AM PDT by Little Ray (Do we have a Plan B?)
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Probably what will have more impact than Galt will be when the real producers realize and understand: The Pareto principle (also known as the 80-20 rule).

In some organizations and maybe society, the top 10 of producers may produce 90% of the results.

When Zer0’s ‘punish the so called rich bs’ starts to impact these people/high producers, they take steps to protect themselves and their families from being pillaged and raped to provide a lifestyle for the non producers.

There will be a double hit on these producers in states like California as they are taxed more and more to pay for the illegals in our society and the left wing drones.


76 posted on 03/16/2009 8:01:11 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Does Zer0 have any friends, who are not criminals, foriegn/domestic terrorists, or tax evaders?)
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btt


84 posted on 03/16/2009 1:49:55 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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What is the breaking point? Where will the resistance form?***

I don’t know, but if We The People ever do figure that one out it’s sure going to be H-E-L-L for our current commie oligarchy.


100 posted on 03/16/2009 7:20:57 PM PDT by Force of Truth (Sarah Palin in 2012!!!!!! WOOOHOOOOO!!!!!!!!!)
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People are choosers, not automatons. Mess them over enough and they're out of here.

Liberals melt down when this is pointed out to them. It's a truth of human nature they simply can't afford to admit.

115 posted on 04/03/2010 1:07:37 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ( "The right to offend is far more important than any right not to be offended." - Rowan Atkinson)
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Question: "What is the breaking point? Where will the resistance form? Heavy questions, but unavoidable in the current political climate. The productive members of society can only be pushed so far, some say."

Response: The Helots of ancient Sparta took quite a bit of abuse. There were very few, if any, Helot uprisings. The Roman slaves rebelled only once that I can remember. I waffle back and forth thinking one time people will fight. Then I go back to the doctrine teaching that as long as one gives the Anglo American his food, drink, drugs, copulation, a good bowel movement and a sound snore he will be quiet. Hard to say.

116 posted on 04/03/2010 1:15:04 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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