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D.C. v Heller a Supreme Court victory? Liberal courts/cities laughing and ignoring it
The Collins Report ^ | March 24, 2009 | Kevin “Coach” Collins

Posted on 03/24/2009 6:11:24 AM PDT by jmaroneps37

Last June the Supreme Court handed down a ruling in the District of Columbia v. Heller case which was supposed to be a victory for the preservation of our rights under the Second Amendment, but was it?

Nine months later the value of Heller as a benchmark gun rights case is seriously in doubt. Although it unequivocally reaffirmed the rights of honest citizens to keep and bare arms, liberal courts and cities across the country have generally ignored or attacked the decision.

Adam Winkler, law professor at UCLA has commented, “To date, the federal courts have not invalidated a single gun control law on the basis of the Second Amendment since Heller.”

“My own bet,” said Sanford Levinson, a law professor at the University of Texas, “is that Heller will more likely than not turn out to be of no significance to anyone but constitutional theorists.”

Chicago’s Mayor Richard Daley rejected the very idea that Heller is binding on his city. Daly maintains that since Chicago is not under federal control, Heller means nothing to him or his city.

Liberals strike back

In reaction to Heller, Chicago Illinois Representative Bobby Rush has re-introduced federal legislation requiring universal registration of firearms.

On Dec. 16, 2008 the Democrat City Council of D.C. buoyed by Obama’s victory, passed new regulations on private gun ownership. The new law requires extensive and costly firearms training to receive or renew gun licenses.

D.C. has directly flaunted sections of Heller so much so that on July 29, just a month after his victory, Heller was forced to go back into court and sue again.

This is the liberal way: if they win, they win. If they lose, they just act as if they won and make us go back into court just to preserve our rights.

(Excerpt) Read more at collinsreport.net ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia; US: Illinois; US: New York
KEYWORDS: banglist; bobbyrush; daley; democrats; donttreadonme; guncontrol; heller; hellercase; liberals; rkba; secondamendment; shallnotbeinfringed; tyranny
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They do this over and over. If the lose an election they don't lose, they just keep counting newly "found" ballots. If they lose a Prop they cry to the leftists in the courts and get the people's will overturned. It's time to turn and confront these people to save our nation.
1 posted on 03/24/2009 6:11:25 AM PDT by jmaroneps37
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...citizens to keep and bare arms

I strongly believe the citizens of Wash DC should be encouraged (if not forced) to roll up their sleeves and get a job.

2 posted on 03/24/2009 6:16:01 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs...nothing more than Bald Haired Hippies!)
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It is too bad the Bush administration (or the courts) did not have DC city officials jailed for violating the 2nd Amendment. That's really the only way court rulings can be enforced.
3 posted on 03/24/2009 6:16:19 AM PDT by pnh102 (Save America - Ban Ethanol Now!)
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"Adam Winkler, law professor at UCLA has commented, “To date, the federal courts have not invalidated a single gun control law on the basis of the Second Amendment since Heller.”

“My own bet,” said Sanford Levinson, a law professor at the University of Texas, “is that Heller will more likely than not turn out to be of no significance to anyone but constitutional theorists.”

OK, now all the liberals have been heard from...

4 posted on 03/24/2009 6:20:33 AM PDT by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D.: "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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Daly maintains that since Chicago is not under federal control, Heller means nothing to him or his city.

Mayor Shortshanks says the Bill of Rights does not apply to his kingdom.

5 posted on 03/24/2009 6:21:48 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (Barter Now! (Starve our socialist government))
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Resist..disobey..stand up for a change and don’t depend on any one else to carry the water!


6 posted on 03/24/2009 6:21:50 AM PDT by devistate one four (Impatiently waiting for the next tea party! Tet '68)
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It's time to turn and confront these people to save our nation.

That simply will not happen.

It's like bees fighting back by stinging. A bee here and there might do it, but unless you kick over the hive you won't find enough of them stinging, and the enemy survives. The left is going to be patient until we all die out slowly and singly, and there's nobody around who even remembers what a "right" is.

7 posted on 03/24/2009 6:22:30 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (American Revolution II -- overdue.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

The spell checker curse strikes again...


8 posted on 03/24/2009 6:23:22 AM PDT by AustinBill (consequence is what makes our choices real)
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"...the rights of honest citizens to keep and bare arms..."

Bare Arm

Bear arms


9 posted on 03/24/2009 6:25:55 AM PDT by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D.: "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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the rights of honest citizens to keep and bare arms


10 posted on 03/24/2009 6:28:56 AM PDT by Sloth (The tree of liberty desperately needs watering.)
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Although it unequivocally reaffirmed the rights of honest citizens to keep and bare arms.

Stop it! Stop it! Stop it! I'm going to start screaming if I continue to see this posted on FR!

11 posted on 03/24/2009 6:29:51 AM PDT by listenhillary (Rahm Emmanuel slip - A crisis is a terrible thing to waste.)
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If this were the citizen doing this, the courts would impose PUNATIVE DAMAGES without blinking an eye.

Local tyrants will not change until they spend time in jail for contempt.


12 posted on 03/24/2009 6:31:15 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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Adam Winkler, law professor at UCLA has commented, “To date, the federal courts have not invalidated a single gun control law on the basis of the Second Amendment since Heller.”

And how many such cases have made it to the federal court in the last 9 months?

13 posted on 03/24/2009 6:32:28 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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You people are all too negative. No, Heller didn’t say that every person has the right to be provided with a full auto at government expense at birth, but it did make the extremely important ruling that the 2nd is a fundamental right. The particulars will be decided as time goes on, just as with the civil rights cases starting 5 1/2 decades ago. One salami slice at a time, just like the antis got us. This is not going to be an overnight thing.

Note that there is currently a suit against Chicago, asserting that it is violating the 2nd, and asserting that the 2nd applies to it via incorporation (courtesy of the 14th). It is being brought by the same attorney who won Heller, Gura. It is a simple yes or no question: does the 2nd apply to states and their subdivisions (i.e. cities) via the 14th? Here’s a link to the site: http://www.chicagoguncase.com/


14 posted on 03/24/2009 6:32:50 AM PDT by Ancesthntr (Tyrant-wannabee: "Spartans, lay down your weapons." Free man: "Persian, come and get them!")
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Either way, it’s a win-win in the Chicago case.

Even if Daley keeps ignoring Heller, he is only asserting that the federal gov’t has little or no power over the states. For the states to recognize this is what the DC elite are scared of.


15 posted on 03/24/2009 6:35:39 AM PDT by webstersII
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To: devistate one four
Resist..disobey..stand up for a change and don’t depend on any one else to carry the water!

Absolutely! The days have come. It is no longer enough to sit around on our hiney, give money to some organization (NRA), and hope all turns out okay. Really, we are going to have to be willing to take the streets or else we risk losing this nation.

16 posted on 03/24/2009 6:39:03 AM PDT by Obadiah (Party - my house - on December 22, 2012!)
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To date, the federal courts have not invalidated a single gun control law on the basis of the Second Amendment since Heller.

Most localities whose laws were challenged have decided to repeal those laws rather than fight a losing battle. The other cases are slowly making their way through the court system.

17 posted on 03/24/2009 7:00:45 AM PDT by gieriscm (07 FFL / 02 SOT - www.extremefirepower.com)
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To: Sloth

TOTALLY uncalled for :)


18 posted on 03/24/2009 7:10:54 AM PDT by willgolfforfood
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Incorporation my boy, Incorporation.

They’re is also about a mile wide loophole, for “reasonable restrictions”. And the states are driving a truck through it.


19 posted on 03/24/2009 7:40:40 AM PDT by headstamp 2 ("Government is a disease masquerading as it's own cure")
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To: Ancesthntr
It is a simple yes or no question: does the 2nd apply to states and their subdivisions (i.e. cities) via the 14th?

My bet is the Court will put on its two faced "selective incorporation doctrine" and say that the right of the States to form an orderly militia says no, just like they did with Kelo.

20 posted on 03/24/2009 7:42:20 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Time to waterboard that teleprompter and find out what it knows.)
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