Posted on 03/29/2009 6:02:38 AM PDT by AJ in NYC
I realize that, but by his own public admission concerning his father's nationality, Barry doesn't even meet the criteria for being a US national, much less that of a natural born citizen.
Most Americans could care less about the differentiation of US Citizens, US Nationals, naturalized citizens and natural born ones. Tossing the legitimacy of his parents' marriage confuses the issue further.
IMHO, the nationality Barry himself stated on his college admissions papers is MUCH more important, because he made that statement after he legally became an adult.
This is a scary thought but Plugs might at some time help expedite the situation.
In Hawaii, a birth certificate is NOT discloseable to the public - which is why they issue a Certificate of Live Birth.
C E R T I F I C A T I O N not certificate ... the cogent fact is a certification is only atating a live birth occurred and a certificate of live birth is on record. Cewrtification is noit a birth certificate, only a certification that one exists from wherever.
If he polls under 30% approval rating, this well could be the emergency box that \hill and Co would break into. Would Joe go along with a deal to name Hill as his veep?
(slap self, slap self) Sorry—fantasy over, back to reality!
I'd think that Hawaii cannot hold the Constitutional elegibility of the president hostage to their own state's privacy laws.
-PJ
(slap self, slap self) Sorry—fantasy over, back to reality!
The truely frightening thing is...that senerio is indeed a fantasy, in the old days that was a nightmare! Obama is that bad!
Thought it was interesting that Indonesia was the first country that Hillary visited after Congress and Obama violated that Constitution by appointing her US Secretary of State. I don’t ever remember a US Secretary of State prioritizing Indonesia before; for that matter I don’t remember anything significant happening around Indonesia.
Doesn’t absolve the problem of his Indonesian citizenship, which his parents acknowledged in his school admission form. Indonesia didn’t allow for dual citizenship so even if he had been a citizen of the US, his mother would have had to relinquish citizenship to the US to even enroll him into school.
I believe that his birth record in Hawaii indicates that he’s African because he was born in Kenya; thereby showing him to be the dissembler and liar that he is.
Thanks for the info.
I had no idea.
Quite true, only naturalized citizenship. Which was my point. They have no power to define "Natural Born Citizen", none, zero, zip, nada, nunca.
Of course if they limited themselves to their delegated powers, and exercised those they have in the way intended, we would wouldn't be in the pickle we are today.
The first part is true, but the second turns out not to be the case. The Certification of Live birth is no more releaseable to the public than the Certificate of Live Birth (which *IS* the original official birth certificate.).
They issue the Certification, to those entitled to get either, because it's faster, easier and thus cheaper.
However, a person eligible to receive either, can get a certified copy of the original of the original Certificate of Live Birth if they need one. Such as for the Hawaiian Lands program, which won't take the Certification, (without other backup not required if they get the Certificate. Or to get a US Passport if the date the Certificate was filed is more than a year from the date of birth, because the US State department won't accept a Certification (Or other "abstract" from any other state either) under that circumstance, because such a late filing is a marker for a possibly fraudulent Certificate/Certification (That is one filed for a child not born in the US)
If a court would order the release, they would not need to make such an argument, because Hawaii law provides for release to a court pursuant to a court order.
I believe you meant:
Certification of Live Birth — Released — Counterfeit
That may well be true. However "Most Americans" are not going to decide this, a Court might, maybe, someday. They will care about the "technicalities" of the law, including the Constitution.
The question is "Is Barrack H. Obama a natural born citizen of the United States". Not "Is he a citizen?", nor "Is he a US national". He could the last without being either of the others, or the last two without being the first. But it's the first, natural born citizenship, that counts.
Thanks, you’re right. [The list is a C&P from elsewhere.]
On March 9, Hanen and Arlen had Phillip Berg as their guest. Berg discussed "Hollister v Soetoro and the outrageous memorandum US District Court Judge James Robertson issued and the other unusual things happening with these cases against Barry Soetoro aka Barack Obama."
Go here and listen to this radio show. The first one, March 9th, they expected Berg to be there but it was cancelled for the next evening. The two radio show hosts talk about they heard obama's lawyer's as part of their filings said in court if his birth certificate were released it would prove a embarassment for obama and the DNC.
Then the one host goes on to say she read that Occidental college in 1979 was tapping into government resources to educate foreign students. Madelyn and Stanley realized they could get obama a free college education with this. BUT they had this bogus Hawaiian certification of birth that was like all other foreign born saying he was born in Hawaii. SO they used the fact that Lolo Soetoro adopted him and they showed his papers from Indonesia to get him the free ride. Rememebr the divorce read that both stanley ann and lolo's children needed education funding even thought barack was 18?
If there are any amendments on the vault BC, the old information would be lined out, and the new added next to it. What could be hidden here by obama is a few amendments stating possibly adoption by Lolo and citizen of Indonesia to get this government funding for college. THEN could he have been so stupid as to amend it again back to Hawaiian born?
There is more to listen to but that got me to thinking. We have judges denying evidence to protect obama's fraud if this is true. I can see obama pleading to the judges that he did not know his mother did that and he had no choice as a poor, young, fatherless man but to go with the fraudulent funding.
This makes sense because in obama's narcissitic mind anything he has to do is okay. He feels it was necessary and he will say he was born in Hawaii but then he had to do what he had to do to get a education. THAT WOULD BE EMBARRASING AND ALSO FRAUD.
Might have been to separate y'all from the Texaco employees...
Could be...
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