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Delusions of Evolution
Norcalblogs.com ^ | April 04, 2009 | by OneVike

Posted on 04/04/2009 10:51:32 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary

It is with out a doubt that a majority of Americans believe “In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth” Genesis 1:1. Unfortunately, most who believe these words cannot answer the questions raised by the thousands of fossils that archeologist's have dug up and claim are millions of years old. ...

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KEYWORDS: creation; evolution; faith; religion
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To: Bryanw92

>>How many times do you get to hit the Lotto on those kinds of odds, without some divine interaction?

I.D. has an allure, since it bridges some difficult philosophical divides. But is has no place in science since it can’t be applied nor used.

Just keep ID in its philosophical, theological realm and all is OK. It is when people try to put it into science that there are problems.


101 posted on 04/04/2009 12:38:48 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks.)
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To: Bryanw92
"I’ll even stipulate that humans may be descended from apes (evidence says its highly likely)'

And lets not forget about rats and pigs. There is good reason we use those in lab research.

102 posted on 04/04/2009 12:39:01 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary

I’ve read that we have more DNA in common with a dolphin than a monkey, but a snake?? Can you cite some proof of that?


103 posted on 04/04/2009 12:39:17 PM PDT by Bryanw92
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To: goat granny
The priest was wrong.

In the Hebrew language the word day is "yom". It is true it can mean age. However when ever "yom" is proceeded by a number or a date it refers to that. Such as in Genesis where it says and that was the first day. First is a numbered word and thus even in the ancient Hebrew it means one day.

It is the exact same language used in Exodus where Moses is given the Ten Commandments. God said to take the seventh day of because he rested on the seventh day. He did not say he to an age of time off, so you take an age of time off.

I could post the what I just said there in Hebrew if you like but you unless you know Hebrew,(I do), you will be lost.

The bottom line is your Priest needs to go back and study the ancient Scriptures and he will see that even in Hebrew it says that God Created the world in one day.
104 posted on 04/04/2009 12:39:38 PM PDT by OneVike (Just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: OneVike

>>Excuse me but the rest of the world is a Joke! Why would we care what they think?

When India is the center of gravity for life science, you may re-ask your question.

>>Since when does truth get trumped by emotions over what people think.

Get a grip of your logic. <<

Get a grip on your emotions. And I am ready for you to tell me where I am wrong — logically.


105 posted on 04/04/2009 12:40:54 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks.)
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To: freedumb2003

>> You are wrong. The idea of a 6,000 year old earth cuts a swath across all life sciences. If accepted, it will eliminate the scientific research in all the Life Sciences in the US.

There is a distinct difference between non-acceptance of the theory of evolution, and supporting the 6,000-year-old earth theory.

>> We are already falling far behind (and are becoming the laughingstock of the world) from our conflating theology and science. If your country isn’t respected in a scientific area, then you won’t be either.

I thought we were talking about actual scientific talent, not winning the “respect” of other countries. There are many countries who are openly hostile to Christianity, and any ideas supporting Christian theology, regardless of the voracity of those ideas.

The goals of science are (or should be) fact, sometimes profit, and, on occasion, truth — but certainly not “respect”.

>> If the trend continues, the USA will have no standing in world science.

“Standing” may be overrated.

SnakeDoc


106 posted on 04/04/2009 12:41:26 PM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("The night is darkest just before the dawn -- but ... the dawn is coming." -- Harvey Dent)
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To: freedumb2003
What if I told you this is total and complete BS? Even a couple of hundred (which there is not of these typesof scientists) is not “many” compared to the millions of scientists who understand TToE. Get us a list of, say 25,000 Life Scientists who agree with your thesis and we’ll talk.

Move on folks. When you get a falsehood this early in a post there is no point in wasting your time with the rest of it.

Just go a head and spoil the fun. I was reading toward the tooth-fairy and how many believed in him as well, or is that a her???

107 posted on 04/04/2009 12:41:53 PM PDT by org.whodat (Auto unions bad: Machinists union good=Hypocrisy)
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To: freedumb2003

So, anything other than absolute belief in random evolution has no place? That makes you more of a fanatical religious nut than me.

I’m still wondering why apes stopped evolving as soon as humanity took off. It’s been 4 million years. Shouldn’t we have some half-ape species out there?


108 posted on 04/04/2009 12:42:49 PM PDT by Bryanw92
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To: what's up

Sadly not many. As I wrote in my article 20% to 40% believe in Theistic evolution. We need to educate them that there are advancements in studies that prove these methods by evolutionary teachers are not accurate.


109 posted on 04/04/2009 12:43:25 PM PDT by OneVike (Just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: freedumb2003
They won’t stop until all of scientific progress ceases and bows its collective head to Biblical teachings. You know, like islam.

Now you have stepped in it. !!! LOL

110 posted on 04/04/2009 12:43:56 PM PDT by org.whodat (Auto unions bad: Machinists union good=Hypocrisy)
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To: Bryanw92

We can even “grow” a new heart, liver kidney etc. for humans in lab, based on the protein structures of pigs which are very simular, and compatable with ours.

what is done is all traces of DNA is “washed” from the protein structure of a pigs heart. These simple proteins are like the building blocks of organic life, once stripped, human blood and t-cells are re introduced to the structure, and it eventually grows new human tissue from the information within human t cells in the blood onto this structure.


111 posted on 04/04/2009 12:44:55 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: chuck_the_tv_out
You’re just getting profane based on your own beliefs of how many scientists believe evolution is false.

Lets see, are you saying BS is profane? If so that in and of it's self is BS.

112 posted on 04/04/2009 12:45:37 PM PDT by org.whodat (Auto unions bad: Machinists union good=Hypocrisy)
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To: freedumb2003
"Building up of resistance to antibiotics (or any drug for that matter)."

That has nothing to do with "evolution". That is adaptability, which is information already contained but dormant until needed.

113 posted on 04/04/2009 12:47:31 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: org.whodat

what does it mean?


114 posted on 04/04/2009 12:47:33 PM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out (click my name)
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To: Nathan Zachary

I’m sure that all mammals share a lot of common DNA.

I think we use pigs for this because they mature quickly and grow human-sized organs. Apes live a lifespan that’s almost the same as humans, so if we were going to grow human heart valves in a monkey, you would die while waiting for your spare part to mature.


115 posted on 04/04/2009 12:48:40 PM PDT by Bryanw92
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To: DevNet
No the earth is 6000 years old and flat, the moon walk was filmed in the desert, and the lotto lady has her magic wand for sale.

More whoppers to follow!!

116 posted on 04/04/2009 12:49:06 PM PDT by org.whodat (Auto unions bad: Machinists union good=Hypocrisy)
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To: freedumb2003
Still waiting for that apology and proof of your OP."

You'll be waiting a long for an apology. I've proved you proof of my OP. Whether you wish to pursue it is not my problem.

117 posted on 04/04/2009 12:49:49 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Bryanw92

>>So, anything other than absolute belief in random evolution has no place? That makes you more of a fanatical religious nut than me.

TToE is not a random process. But is it naturalistic. If you know a non-naturalistic process that can be scientifically applied, I am ready to see your published report.

>>I’m still wondering why apes stopped evolving as soon as humanity took off. It’s been 4 million years. Shouldn’t we have some half-ape species out there?

And your training and degrees in anthropology lead to this conclusion how? TToE explains this phenomenon quite well.


118 posted on 04/04/2009 12:49:55 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks.)
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To: OneVike

Glad you know Hebrew, but I’ll stick with the priest. I know him, I don’t know you......


119 posted on 04/04/2009 12:50:30 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: org.whodat

the point wasn’t the use of the acronym, it was the whole thing, the way he jumped on this thread with cries of “BS” and his own completely unsupported assertions, in parentheses as if it was something he actually knew.

in that context, and in the context of the issues of God that this is about, it was profane, in my view.


120 posted on 04/04/2009 12:50:41 PM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out (click my name)
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