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1 posted on 04/11/2009 9:11:20 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
U.S. rules of engagement prevent the Americans using their vastly superior fighting power to engage the pirates if there is any danger to civilians.

Great, tying our own hands.

2 posted on 04/11/2009 9:13:50 AM PDT by xjcsa (Currently shouting "I told you so" about Michael Steele on my profile page.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Trying???


3 posted on 04/11/2009 9:14:23 AM PDT by bgill (The evidence simply does not support the official position of the Obama administration)
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U.S. rules of engagement prevent the Americans using their vastly superior fighting power to engage the pirates if there is any danger to civilians.

This feels like the late 1970s with Jimmy Carter again...

4 posted on 04/11/2009 9:15:34 AM PDT by John123 (The US may be going down the drain, but everyone else will drown first...)
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The more things change...


5 posted on 04/11/2009 9:16:28 AM PDT by cardinal4 (Dont Tread on Me)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I say, let the pirates gather.

Then suddenly sink every pirate ship that doesn’t have hostages. Inform the other ships that they cannot leave the area or they will be sunk. The only way they can escape is to surrender their hostages and their vessels.


6 posted on 04/11/2009 9:16:57 AM PDT by DannyTN
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the town of eyl, somalia which is pirate central

http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=7.9634081,49.84758&z=16&t=h&hl=en

as always, the imagery is a tad better in google earth


7 posted on 04/11/2009 9:17:55 AM PDT by angkor
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"Moreover, any military action is best done in consultation with the United Nations to gain the support and cooperation of other countries."

Riiiiiight...

11 posted on 04/11/2009 9:21:21 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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“U.S. rules of engagement prevent the Americans using their vastly superior fighting power to engage the pirates if there is any danger to civilians.”

In situations threatening civilization, firm action should be taken to protect civilians not yet involved in said situation.


13 posted on 04/11/2009 9:22:11 AM PDT by OldNavyVet
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re-enforcements? blow them out of the water.

they have hostages (human shields)? get some hooks on the boats and strip their props. leave them dead in the water

i would also put a couple of seals under the lifeboat with the capt. i would then signal the captain using a light... telling him the plan. i would have him acknowledge by brushing his hair or something. then, at the appropriate time, he will jump overboard and dive straight down beneath the boat. the seals would be waiting with air and underwater scooters.

once out of the way... commence target practice.


15 posted on 04/11/2009 9:22:55 AM PDT by sten
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I’m worried all this is a diversion (or will be used as one) for something much worse. I hope we don’t put too much of our resources in one place.


16 posted on 04/11/2009 9:23:49 AM PDT by Lorianne
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WTF IS GOING ON HERE? WHY CAN’T WE JUST BLOW THESE POS OFF THE MAP? God I hate this administration! I HATE IT!


17 posted on 04/11/2009 9:24:15 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("President Obama, your agenda is not new, it's not change, and it's not hope" - Rush Limbaugh 02/28)
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Basically what they are saying is that there is no answer to the problem. They need to tell people that if they sail into this area, there’s a chance that pirates will take them hostage and we cannot guarantee their safety.


19 posted on 04/11/2009 9:24:57 AM PDT by RC2
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Blocking? ... and not blowing them into flotsam and jetsam?


21 posted on 04/11/2009 9:25:38 AM PDT by steelyourfaith (What new from the Thief-in-Chief?)
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"Moreover, any military action is best done in consultation with the United Nations to gain the support and cooperation of other countries."

Carter diplomacy does NOT work.

22 posted on 04/11/2009 9:25:57 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, Question everyone else)
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THIS standoff is the first real test of our closet Muslim, Kenyan Poseur and “Commander in Chief”..

If the pirates get to shore with the American hostage - he fails.
If a ransom is paid to secure the hostage - he fails.
If the hostage is killed - he fails.
If pirates fire on our Navy vessels and escape death - he fails.
If any pirates achieve prisoner status - he fails.
If he refuses to authorize killing every pirate is sight - He fails.

The ONLY way the Dalai Bama comes out of this with a passing grade - is after the hostages are all safely recovered and every freaking pirate on the sea is dead and their home ports are reduced to a single layer of smoldering rubble.

This is the outcome and the solution to the problem the world is waiting for....
Anything less is failure.

There is a huge chance Obama WILL fail this test - as Biden predicted, and our Republic will be hastened on it's journey to banana republic status.

23 posted on 04/11/2009 9:25:59 AM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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“U.S. warships are trying to stop Somali pirates from sending reinforcements “

I don't have a military background and am sitting here in my comfy fabric chair; but; this doesn't seem that difficult of a problem to solve.

24 posted on 04/11/2009 9:26:06 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (I agree with Rick..)
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Why doesn't the great King of America tell these half wits that if they harm a hair on CPT Phillips head ever ship that the half wits have out will be sunk..We should not pay these creeps a cent,and if they hurt our man they should be blown into kingdom come..If they harm this man or any of the others Somali's should be blown off the map..All the criminal Muslim are there so we can take out them too..

If President Bush was sill in office this matter would have ended the first day..We see now we have no chance with King Obama in office along with his court jesters..People of America vote these Turds out of office.

28 posted on 04/11/2009 9:30:27 AM PDT by PLD
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“U.S. warships are trying to stop Somali pirates from sending reinforcements to a lifeboat...”

What’s the difficulty? Just aim your big guns at them, and let loose.


30 posted on 04/11/2009 9:32:05 AM PDT by Brilliant
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Can you imagine being a SEAl team watching this unfold and being told to stand down.

Carter at least had some plausible excuse. More hostages, more of a diplomatic struggle, and a more vital region. I ain't excusing Carter-he was a disgrace. But this ass clown????????-Words fail me. I mean we are talking about a bunch of skinnies with AK 47s in a lifeboat with only one hostage. WTH?

Don't SEALS train for this?

32 posted on 04/11/2009 9:34:34 AM PDT by MattinNJ (Sanford/Palin in 2012)
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U.S. rules of engagement prevent the Americans using their vastly superior fighting power to engage the pirates if there is any danger to civilians.

More politically correct stupidity. So their civilians are more important than ours.


38 posted on 04/11/2009 9:40:29 AM PDT by Islaminaction
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