Posted on 04/21/2009 10:30:47 AM PDT by llevrok
Well, that’s ugly with the digital camo on it.
I wore the one with the prior camo pattern.
The British Royal Marines, Parachute Regiment, SAS, German SKS, Russian Spetnatz, Several Scottish Regiments, and the Israeli military might dispute that opinion
Weren’t any troops “dying” from from no “body Armor” from Jan 2001-11 Sept 2001.
I chatted with some senior Army NCO about six months after the order came down. He was at some course at the time, where the topic was discussed by a dozen senior Army NCO’s....of which none agreed with the idea or the message delivered.
About two years later...I had one Army Captain tell me that this was rated as one of the five dumbest ideas of the decade within the Army.
Well sonny. I wore one that was ALL green. 1968. LOL
Get rid of the Euro 9mm Berettas's while you're fixing things. A good American Colt.45 model 1911. (back when Colt was American).
One reason the Army/military is so confused about the beret/”cap” issue - is the damned thing isn’t a cap...
Little kids wear caps.
Baseball players wear caps.
Dumb ass “rap stars” still haven’t figured out how to wear caps.
In our day, the military wore COVERS....not caps.
Jeeze what feminine pansies they’ve become.
The referred to “soft cap” is nothing of the sort!
It was a UTILITY COVER..... plain and simple.
There was no confusion in the old Marine Corps...
We had it all, with the proper nomenclature.
There were MANY authorized service/climate/functional/MOS appropriate COVERS. But, not a SINGLE CAP!
I guess next, they will call men’s trousers - pants.
In our day, only women wore pants and panties - men wore trousers and boxer/BVD shorts.
They gone too damned far with the metrosexual Army.
Yeah, I guess he didn't have anything else to do. /s
I was one of those that though this would never come to pass.
I’ll be glad to see it go.
It wasn’t Bush’s job to do it.
As CIC, he was civilian leadership.
Uniform decisions are left to the individual services, as it should be.
I can’t recall how many times I took shit for the “Ranger tuck” on my patrol cap. Even blocking it, so it didn’t look like a hand rag was verboten.
I did it anyway.
All that “confusion’, and the USMC still has to come to The Army to design its uniforms and camo.
Go figure.
To make matters worse I think they are made in China.
By the time Bush was aware of it and everybody was complaining about the thing it was too late to turn it around. Millions had been contracted for. They had some quality issues I recall and they were buying the bulk of them from China because there wasn’t anybody in the U.S. who could make that many berets.
The other thing is that Bush had some loyalty to Shinseki. Even if it could have been done Shinseki would have had to retire or resign after his boss publicly humiliated him. Bush did hang with some people a long time.
Background: Shinseki was the 3rd ACR adjutant in ‘78 when then Army CoS Bernie Rodgers put the edict out on multi-colored berets, including black berets for armored/cavalry units. Shinseki always had a hard on about his black beret being taken away and acted accordingly when he attained the position as Army CoS.
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