Posted on 04/28/2009 5:20:36 AM PDT by marktwain
Among comments to my last piece, Lautenberg gun show bill as bad as expected, several were from well-meaning gun owners who honestly questioned why S. 843 ostensibly submitted to close the gun show loophole is really so bad.
A typical and knowledgeable comment went like this:
I am a very pro-gun person. I own a couple of rifles and I will never support any [assault weapon ban]. I don't even support the 86 [McClure-Volkmer] automatic ban. But background checks should be required for any and every sale. If that means transferring it at the dealer, then fine.
"But any kind of government-kept record of who owns what I am strongly opposed to. Make the bill less ridiculous and get rid of all of the registration clauses and I will not oppose it.
While reasonable and well-intentioned, the argument contains a presumption which, unfortunately, rarely pertains in politics: It presumes the intentions of the bill are honest. Below are the main three reasons why legislation purporting to require background checks is unacceptable.
NOTHING IN THE POLITICAL PROCESS IS HONEST
After 15+ years of political action, I say with certainty that subterfuge is the rule rather than the exception: I have seen politicians claim undying support for a bill just before firing an arrow through its heart. I have sat in the chamber as a legislator killed a bill by offering a poison pill amendment while assuring everyone: This amendment is intended to make a good bill better. Ive been assured by a subcommittee chairman that a bill I opposed would never get a hearing, minutes before being told by the chairman of the full committee that it would be heard on Thursday.
In teaching legislative tactics seminars, I tell students: Lest you think the political process is designed to exclude you, let me assure you that it is. With few exceptions, politicians are weasels, and the few legislators with character Ive met will never advance to higher office precisely because they are trustworthy.
Lessons of the Brady Act: In 1993, we were assured by Handgun Control, Inc. and the NRA alike that the National Instant Check System (NICS) would never be used to register guns. NICS transaction records, we were assured, were required to be expunged. Unfortunately, the fine print didnt say when they had to be expunged, and the Clinton administration immediately instructed the FBI to retain them indefinitely, creating a de facto gun registration system in violation of federal law. Although the Bush administration ordered transaction records expunged in 24 hours, Senators Charles Schumer and Kirsten Gillibrand have already proposed again retaining them.
Conclusions: You cannot create a background check system that manipulative politicians cant turn into a gun registration system, as they already have. The goal of gun show legislation, in truth, is to not only decimate the gun culture which reinforces itself via gun shows, but to register private gun sales in the case of S. 843 with both the Attorney General and the FBI.
Perhaps, you say, but whats wrong with registering guns? It isnt as though somebody is taking them away from you.
REGISTRATION: PRELUDE TO CONFISCATION
No, this is not black helicopters are after my guns paranoia, nor is it a history of other countries like Britain, which rounded up previously registered guns after the Dunblane massacre. And I certainly wont feed that cant happen here fantasies by describing Nazi gun laws.
Nope. These are the 100% made in America lessons of California and New York.
Self-evident is the fact that you cant confiscate what you cant find. Lest you think that is not the agenda of at least some Democrats, let me remind you of Sen. Diane Feinsteins 1994 remarks to 60 minutes:
"If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an outright ban, picking up every one of them -- Mr. and Mrs. America, turn them all in -- I would have done it."
California & Roberti-Roos
Ever the leader in leftism, California passed the Roberti-Roos Assault Weapon Control Act of 1989, ostensibly in response to massacres in 1959 in San Ysidro, and in Stockton in 1989. The act banned semi-automatic weapons by name and grandfathered weapons registered with the state. In the years (and profuse litigation) that followed, however, California twice required gun owners who had dutifully registered their guns to turn them in, render them inoperable, or demonstrate they had been transferred out of state, all under threat of criminal prosecution, of course.
In 1999, California decided to reinterpret existing law, banning SKS rifles not previously included in the original law, and requiring gun owners to turn them in under threat of prosecution. Reported WorldNetDaily:
One of the more famous arrestees was James Dingman of Santa Clara for possession of an unregistered SKS rifle with a fixed magazine.
Even more egregious was Californias decision to expose owners of 2,000 guns registered under the law to criminal prosecution for the crime of actually registering them: Although Roberti-Roos required guns to have been bought by June 1, 1989 and registered with the California Department of Justice by March 30, 1992, Attorney General Dan Lungren extended the registration deadline.
On August 21, 1998, however, the Superior Court in San Francisco decided Lungren lacked the authority to extend the deadline. When Lungrens successor, Bill Lockyer, later backed away from defending the registration extension, he exposed 1,500 previously law-abiding gun owners to prosecution. Said the Los Angeles Times:
Putting close to 1,500 gun owners in legal jeopardy, state Atty. Gen. Bill Lockyer has decided to drop a court fight defending his predecessor's controversial practice of registering semiautomatic assault weapons declared illegal by a 1989 state law. The decision means that the owners of almost 2,000 UZIs, AK-47s, AR-15s and 72 other types of assault weapons will face a fine and imprisonment if they do not turn in their guns, destroy them or take them out of California.
"If they don't, they will be felons in illegal possession of an assault weapon, said Nathan Brankin, Lockyer's spokesman. Yes, you say, but that was just a bureaucratic SNAFU. Such a thing could never happen intentionally. Let us now turn to the City of New York
New York City rifle and shotgun registration
In 1967, the New York City Council passed, and Mayor John V. Lindsay signed, a law requiring New Yorkers to pay a $3 fee and register all rifles and shotguns, including make, model and serial number. Ignoring, for a moment, promises that the fee would never increase (at last report, it was $55), most ironic was the vow by The New York Times that the law would protect the constitutional rights of owners and buyers.
In 1991, the city council, at the behest of Mayor David Dinkins, passed Administrative Code, Sec. 10-303.1, banning semi-automatic rifles and shotguns. Shortly thereafter, the NYPD kindly instructed the 2,340 New Yorkers who had complied with the registration law to return sworn statements the guns had been surrendered, rendered inoperable, or transferred elsewhere. NYPD deputy commissioner Jeremy Travis promised spot checks to ensure compliance.
Reports the NRA:
The year after the ban was enacted, a man`s home in Staten Island was raided by the police after he had announced that he would not comply with the city`s ban. He was arrested, and his guns were seized.
GUN SHOW LOOPHOLE IS NOT ABOUT GUN SHOWS
Beyond voluminous evidence that criminals dont get guns from gun shows, Lautenberg and anti-gun politicians know full well that laws governing gun transfers are the same at guns shows as anywhere else. The loophole they plan to close is the private transfer of firearms by requiring all such transactions to go through NICS, and their motivation is to register each and every gun and gun owner.
In the exceedingly unlikely event you could produce final legislation not filled with the gotchas so adored by anti-gun Democrats, you could not draft a law that I could not eventually convert to a registration scheme. And as history has repeatedly demonstrated not only in autocracies and foreign nations but in the United States registration is the necessary prelude to confiscation.
I leave you with philosopher George Santayanas adage, as true as it is trite: Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
Thanks for the pings Joe!
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IMO one cannot claim to be an ardent Pro 2A rights advocate and support background checks.
Bacground checks are an infringement on a right.
I can if they never get the name, even digitally. Why cant the feds disseminate the list of those prohibited from buying on permanent non-writable media like CD to the dealers? Theyre prohibited from keeping records of the searches, so they cant say that would be a problem, and theyre trusting the dealer already to run the right name, so they cant say loss of control of the process would be a problem. That way, wed know they didnt have access to any information they could choose to abuse and wed know they were complying with the law.
After the “gunshow loophole”, there is the “classified ad loophole” and the “father-son heirloom transfer loophole”, ad nauseum.
Always at the bottom of these laws is eventual registration. (They can’t seize ‘em unless they know where they are.) Next time you run into one of these “close the loophole” or “what’s wrong with registration” types, ask them if the government can seize guns when they don’t know who owns them. The answers of the antis should be pretty interesting.
IMO, one reason the Constitution was written was that the founders didn’t want us to be subject to a good king/bad king scenario. Any time you have to depend upon the good will of the people in power you are in big trouble.
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Sadly, a FReeper in my locale posted something like the title nearly word for word.
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Even under that system, is there any guarantee that the "list" wouldn't contain people who haven't been convicted or even accused of any crime? Given that such people are even today included on the list by design I see no reason to believe the system won't be abused.
First and most trivial: the guy said that no background check system could be devised that he couldn't turn into a registration system.
Second, in a world where those in favor of a system are barred from keeping the names from the checks, and they SAY they don't, that there is no excuse for it not to be done in a way that we can trust their claims (and to trust a politician, it has to be physically impossible for them to be lying).
Third, I think this is something incremental conservatives could push for that would paint liberal rights-haters into a corner: it achieves everything they SAY they want and protects the freedoms of individuals, so how can they fight it. They increment and salami-slice us to death, it's about time we did it to them, and better.
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