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Pope's Swiss Guard May Allow Women After 500-Year Ban
Reuters ^ | 5/5/09

Posted on 05/05/2009 2:35:00 PM PDT by nickcarraway

After more than five centuries protecting popes, the Swiss Guard may consider opening the ranks of the world's smallest army to women, its commander said Tuesday.

"I can imagine them for one role or another. Certainly we can think about this," Daniel Anrig, who took over the post late last year, told Italian television program "Studio Aperto."

Anrig's remarks could represent a major change in position regarding the future of the elite corps composed entirely of 19- to 30-year-old Catholic men hailing from the Swiss Army.

Anrig's predecessor argued that mixing the sexes could be more trouble than it was worth and cited cramped Vatican barracks as another reason for excluding women. Asked about difficulties like cramped quarters, Anrig responded: "Any problems can be resolved." The Swiss Guard was founded on January 22, 1506, when 150 Swiss mercenaries marched to Rome to serve under Pope Julius II, known as "the warrior Pope."

Today, the guard numbers around 110 men. Clad in flamboyant striped uniforms, the guard's role is largely ceremonial and many of its members still carry around a medieval weapon -- the halberd, which is a combination of spear and battle axe.

Wednesday, the Vatican will hold an annual ceremony commemorating the 140 guards killed in the May 6, 1527 sacking of Rome. The surviving members saved the life of Pope Clement VII.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: pope; swiss; swissguard; tradition; women
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To: Darksheare

Who is being hurtful to who? What’s the ratio of domestic violence against women vs men??? Guys get ticked off and who do they take it out on? Problems at work - knock the old lady around ... yep, that’ll make them more relaxed ...


41 posted on 05/05/2009 3:14:17 PM PDT by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Constitutions Grandchild

Protecting someone is part of the job.


42 posted on 05/05/2009 3:14:18 PM PDT by Darksheare (Tar is cheap, and feathers are plentiful.)
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To: vladimir998

They don’t do anything about it because they have taken themselves out of the work force to stay at home with the kids ... where is she going to go? Oh, yeah, to a shelter, right ....


43 posted on 05/05/2009 3:15:24 PM PDT by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: SkyDancer

Let me guess, you experienced what you describe and now see it in everyone you run across.
Right?


44 posted on 05/05/2009 3:15:49 PM PDT by Darksheare (Tar is cheap, and feathers are plentiful.)
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To: SkyDancer

Then don’t have kids.
Problem solved.


45 posted on 05/05/2009 3:16:23 PM PDT by Darksheare (Tar is cheap, and feathers are plentiful.)
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To: SkyDancer

There’s the thing that screws up most people, I think.

Defining what business you’re in? Is the corporate pilot in the jet flying business or the airline business? That is to say, what’s the goal? To fly jets or be the guy/gal who owns the company that leases the jets?

There’s a very good essay written decades ago called Marketing Myopia (free online). It explains how businesses screw up by not properly defining their own business. The giant railroads believed they were in the railroad business and not the transportation business, hence they never made the move to air travel and got obsoleted.

Most people make the same mistakes.


46 posted on 05/05/2009 3:18:13 PM PDT by durasell
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To: Darksheare

Don’t get married just get married. Problem solved.


47 posted on 05/05/2009 3:20:16 PM PDT by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: SkyDancer

I too have a CCL, but I don’t complain about having to be submissive and I have never needed a gun to prove that.


48 posted on 05/05/2009 3:21:03 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: SkyDancer

I am married.
One child -deceased.


49 posted on 05/05/2009 3:21:18 PM PDT by Darksheare (Tar is cheap, and feathers are plentiful.)
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To: SkyDancer
No. All religions disparage women. We’re second class citizens when it comes to them. We have to be submissive and do what we’re told. We have no real voice ... have the babies, make dinner, clean up and shut up ... and be available whenever the men want us ... 24/7 ..... All religions disparage women.

Sounds like you want to blame someone else for the poor choice(s) you've made.

50 posted on 05/05/2009 3:25:03 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: durasell

My goal was to be a corporate pilot, period. But I just learned today that the company I flew for closed its doors. Why? Because the Mess-e-sigh-ya said for people not to fly to Vegas and other places in corporate jets. So now I’m out of work. But that does not mean I should run out to find some guy to “take care of me” ....so that mistake I will not make.


51 posted on 05/05/2009 3:25:30 PM PDT by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: SkyDancer
No one thinks you should get married, if you don't want to.

Everyone has different values. For 99% of people, 5 minutes after they retire they are long forgotten and no one cares about them, no matter what your career is. So, to me, it seems a career is not that important to a person's life as their family.

52 posted on 05/05/2009 3:27:58 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: presidio9
Photobucket

Here is the snappy uni's they wore a few years ago when we were there.

53 posted on 05/05/2009 3:30:23 PM PDT by Doomonyou (Proud member of the Homeland Security Department watch list.)
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To: SkyDancer

Your posts are filled with stereotypes - how ironic for a feminist...not really of course.

You wrote:

“Win or loose the woman has to make the home,...”

All by herself? I remember my father washing floors on his hands and knees because he knew that’s how my mother prefered the floor to be cleaned. He did this to help out - and that was after working all day at his back-breaking job in a chemical plant that gave him cancer.

“...take care of the kids...”

So, only women take care of children? Is every man in your life a loser? And if so, why do you hang out with losers?

“...(guys yell when they get a splinter, try going through the pain associated with childbirth one time).”

So, now every man yells over a splinter? Women are stronger than men. I freely admit it. Yes, I know men can generally lift more, carry more, etc. But God made women stronger to endure things like childbirth. At the same time, I have seen women completely fall apart over breaking a nail, scream over spiders in the bathtub, cry pitifully over NOTHING, and (yes, it’s a stereotype) go insane when PMS hits.

I keep chocolate in my desk so women don’t kill me.

Every day at my job I spend an inordinate amount of time helping women sort out their problems - problems with their kids, their husbands, their mothers, their sisters, their anxiety attacks over retirement (that’s the latest thing a good friend of mine is experiencing), everything, I MEAN EVERYTHING. I rarely have to help a male out. They somehow muddle through it without burdening me (God bless them!).

I manange to do all that and still can cook and clean for myself and others. Imagine that? Also, splinters don’t make me scream. I once shattered (and I mean shattered) my wrist in an accident. I have seven permanent pins in my wrist. SEVEN. Did I yell? No. Did I cry? Nope. I live alone at the time. I managed to wash myself. Make my own meals (although I asked a friend to pick up some groceries for me). I missed work ONE day because of surgery. And that was it. I freely admit the only time I was particularly bothered in any way was when my tiny female physical therapist - who must have weighed only 97 pounds but was very strong - pushed down on my wrist as hard as she could day after day in therapy. My eyes welled up with tears on at least one or two occasions as she bent my wrist in ways it was no longer really able to go.

Not all men are wimps.


54 posted on 05/05/2009 3:31:01 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: Doomonyou

Some whiteface makeup, a small plus over each eye, and he’s a mime.


55 posted on 05/05/2009 3:31:15 PM PDT by Darksheare (Tar is cheap, and feathers are plentiful.)
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To: nickcarraway

Trying to work on it. The scheduled airline business today (regarding flight crews) is very competitive ....


56 posted on 05/05/2009 3:31:26 PM PDT by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: SkyDancer

May you find a crew and a flight run that is challenging and rewarding.


57 posted on 05/05/2009 3:32:20 PM PDT by Darksheare (Tar is cheap, and feathers are plentiful.)
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To: vladimir998

Understood - however from what I’ve experienced with friends and relatives they’re few and far between ...


58 posted on 05/05/2009 3:32:33 PM PDT by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: SkyDancer

You wrote:

“They don’t do anything about it because they have taken themselves out of the work force to stay at home with the kids ... where is she going to go? Oh, yeah, to a shelter, right ....”

So you think the choice is lousy marriage or the shelter? How about the wife going to her husband? How about the wife telling him what she needs? It sounds like your friends picked losers. Who does that say more about? All your friends picked losers. All of them? So all the women you know have such poor judgment? Maybe the men are not the only problem.


59 posted on 05/05/2009 3:33:32 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

Can’t see where I made a poor choice. In what exactly? Flying? Not wanting to get married now? What?


60 posted on 05/05/2009 3:33:32 PM PDT by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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