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Montana Governor Signs New Gun Law-(DARES Obama To Challenge it!)
Gather ^ | 5-5-09 | George W.

Posted on 05/06/2009 7:24:33 AM PDT by tcrlaf

The state of Montana has signed into power a revolutionary gun law. I mean REVOLUTIONARY.

The State of Montana has defied the federal government and their gun laws. This will prompt a showdown between the federal government and the State of Montana . The federal government fears citizens owning guns. They try to curtail what types of guns they can own. The gun control laws all have one common goal - confiscation of privately owned firearms.

Montana has gone beyond drawing a line in the sand. They have challenged the Federal Government. The fed now either takes them on and risks them saying the federal agents have no right to violate their state gun laws and arrest the federal agents that try to enforce the federal firearms acts. This will be a world-class event to watch.

Montana could go to voting for secession from the union, which is really throwing the gauntlet in Obama's face. If the federal government does nothing they lose face. Gotta love it.

Important Points - If guns and ammunition are manufactured inside the State of Montana for sale and use inside that state then the federal firearms laws have no applicability since the federal government only has the power to control commerce across state lines. Montana has the law on their side. Since when did the USA start following their own laws especially the constitution of the USA , the very document that empowers the USA .

Silencers made in Montana and sol in Montana would be fully legal and not registered. As a note silencers were first used before the 007 movies as a device to enable one to hunt without disturbing neighbors and scaring game. They were also useful as devices to control noise when practicing so as to not disturb the neighbors.

Silencers work best with a bolt-action rifle. There is a long barrel and the chamber is closed tight so as to direct all the gases though the silencer at the tip of the barrel. Semi-auto pistols and revolvers do not really muffle the sound very well except on the silver screen. The revolvers bleed gas out with the sound all over the place. The semi-auto pistols bleed the gases out when the slide recoils back.

Silencers are maybe nice for snipers picking off enemy soldiers even though they reduce velocity but not very practical for hit men shooting pistols in crowded places. Silencers were useful tools for gun enthusiasts and hunters.

There would be no firearm registration, serial numbers, criminal records check, waiting periods or paperwork required. So in a short period of time there would be millions and millions of unregistered untraceable guns in Montana . Way to go Montana !


TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Montana
KEYWORDS: banglist; bho44; bhotyranny; donttreadonme; fubo; guns; law; liberty; montana; obama; shallnotbeinfringed; sovereignty; statesrights
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To: tcrlaf

A little more detail and a little less hyperbole would make this a little better thread.


21 posted on 05/06/2009 7:42:10 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Mr. Lucky

“A little more detail and a little less hyperbole would make this a little better thread.”

I wish there was some...
Feel free to do a google search. I even posted the Google news results. All four of them. And two don’t even apply.


22 posted on 05/06/2009 7:43:39 AM PDT by tcrlaf ("Hope" is the most Evil of all Evils"-Neitzsche)
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To: An.American.Expatriate

I mean I think the legislature would have known full well what the feds would use to “invalidate” their ruling. They are implicitly threatening to ignore any court order by passing this law.


23 posted on 05/06/2009 7:43:45 AM PDT by papertyger (Advertising makes journalism an assault weapon.)
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To: boxerblues

Soon, many. There’s a lot of pent-up demand for some items (short barrels, suppressors, unregistered, etc.).


24 posted on 05/06/2009 7:44:23 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (John Galt was exiled.)
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To: tcrlaf
This sounds all well and fine on the surface, but I wouldn't be too quick to celebrate.

Putting on the tin foil hat for a moment, what if this is a devious plan to force a (corrupt) supreme court to rule on Federal powers, and the Federal power to control firearms?

This could be a devastating blow to gun ownership in this country as well, if this is a scam to establish precedent in the top courts.

25 posted on 05/06/2009 7:44:48 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: tcrlaf

I heard about this earlier on Beck with Judge Napolitano. They mentioned that the Governor would be making a speech at the signing. If anybody finds a transcript it sounds like it would certainly be worth posting.


26 posted on 05/06/2009 7:45:05 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: tcrlaf
The fed now either takes them on and risks them saying the federal agents have no right to violate their state gun laws and arrest the federal agents that try to enforce the federal firearms acts.

The feds won't go after the State of Montana on this, they'll go after some individual who tries to deal in firearms without a license. I'd suggest any individual who is contemplating putting all this to a test should first familiarize himself with US vs Stewart and Gonzalez vs Raich.
27 posted on 05/06/2009 7:45:49 AM PDT by publiusF27
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To: brownsfan

oh YEAH,

I always said if I won the lottery.... 1000 acres of private land in Montana or Wyoming.


28 posted on 05/06/2009 7:46:35 AM PDT by envisio (Sexual Beer & BBQ Ribs)
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To: brownsfan
I’d retire to Montana if it weren’t so darn cold!

Beautiful state. Besides the cold keeps away the hippies and the grizzly bears eat the tree huggers.
29 posted on 05/06/2009 7:48:15 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: An.American.Expatriate
Raich was the DEA vs. a terminally ill grandmother. Montana (a full state, not a poor dying individual) should be able to shove the issue back up to SCOTUS, and make it clear the ruling was absurd (being based on the notion that reducing demand in an illegal interstate market somehow fits the Commerce Clause), especially in light of "shall not be infringed" overriding any bent interpretations of the Commerce Clause.
30 posted on 05/06/2009 7:48:26 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (John Galt was exiled.)
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To: papertyger

I see. Do you know you do know that Gonzales vs. Raich is not a court order, right?

This USSC decision from 2005 specifically states that any item produced is “never more than an instant away from the interstate market” and can thus be regulated by the congress.

This is decided precedent (wrong, but decided) and will not likely be revisited by an Obama court.


31 posted on 05/06/2009 7:49:19 AM PDT by An.American.Expatriate (Here's my strategy on the War against Terrorism: We win, they lose. - with apologies to R.R.)
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To: Mr. Lucky

Dig up the bill and read it, rather than relying on intepretations by the confused.


32 posted on 05/06/2009 7:49:38 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (John Galt was exiled.)
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To: Nathan Zachary

Your tinfoil hat is on too tight.
This law is a Good Thing, even though it invites a big fight which might not be won.


33 posted on 05/06/2009 7:50:33 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (John Galt was exiled.)
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To: tcrlaf

I think Bushmaster should move to Montana. Maybe I should move to Montana. You know, raise me up a crop of dental floss.


34 posted on 05/06/2009 7:50:37 AM PDT by Sender (It's never too late to be who you could have been.)
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To: brownsfan
"I’d retire to Montana if it weren’t so darn cold!"

Montana isn't very cold at all. Unless of course you are one who has lived in the warm southern states all your life- a tender foot.

Montana has the best of both worlds, mild winters, nice mountains, good hunting and nice summers. Buy a nice ranch at the foot of the mountains and you're in paradise, close to both mountains and sand.

35 posted on 05/06/2009 7:51:07 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Eaker
"Texas is working on a very similar bill right now."

Are we? That's good news! Who is drafting the bill?

36 posted on 05/06/2009 7:52:59 AM PDT by avacado
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To: Sender
Raisin' it up,
waxin' it down,
in a little white box that I can
sell uptown.

Note: no interstate commerce was involved with the raising, waxing, boxing, sale or end use of my floss.

37 posted on 05/06/2009 7:54:05 AM PDT by Sender (It's never too late to be who you could have been.)
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To: tcrlaf

bttt


38 posted on 05/06/2009 7:54:44 AM PDT by JamesP81 (When Obama signed an order providing tax dollars to murder children, he stopped being my president)
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To: tcrlaf
...but thier are HUNDREDS of discussions and blog articles about it!

Not ONE of which I can access at work - they're blocked either for "social" or "weapons" - so this is a self ping to read up on it at home.

39 posted on 05/06/2009 7:55:44 AM PDT by nina0113 (Hugh Akston is my hero.)
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To: umgud
Of course, it may be an incentive for more firms to take up manufacturing in MT.

Which would mean more jobs for Montana's folks.
40 posted on 05/06/2009 7:56:28 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Satisfaction was my sin)
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