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1 posted on 05/19/2009 11:13:47 AM PDT by jazusamo
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Supreme court ruling on what constitutes cruel and unusual and unconstitutional treatment

>>In Hope v. Pelzer, 536 U.S. 730, 122 S.Ct. 2508, 153 L. Ed. 2d 666 (2002), the U.S. Supreme Court held that the Eighth Amendment had been contravened when prison officials had disciplined an inmate for disruptive behavior by handcuffing him to a “hitching post”, once for two hours and once for seven hours, depriving the inmate of his shirt, exposing him to the sun, denying his requests for hydration, and refusing to allow him the opportunity to use the bathroom.<<

So, yeah, we are way over the line into torture.


2 posted on 05/19/2009 11:15:56 AM PDT by gondramB
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Very well said Ping!


3 posted on 05/19/2009 11:15:57 AM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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Jesse "the body" Ventura, former wrestling body slammer and Navy seal say's it is torture.

One mustn't waste a great mind, one must listen and take heed. /s

Now where's that feather boa....

4 posted on 05/19/2009 11:18:51 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, Question everyone else)
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ANYONE who says dripping water is torture is a liar.

The US Code defined torture in tha `90s and dripping water ain`t it. In face,Congress tried to outlaw it in 2007 but the legislation could not over ride a veto.

ANYONE who says the Japs did the same thing is a liar.

The Japanese used water torture, from pumping salt water into POW`s stomachs to making them eat dry rice then filling them with water and exploding their intestines.

ANYONE who says the Geneva Conventions apply is a moron.

The Taliban and AQ are not signatories.

ANYONE who says Bush should be tried as a war crimminal is an idiot.

The USA are not signatories to the Treaty of Rome.

ANYONE who says the UN Treaty on Torture applies is a fool.

The treaty is so poorly worded one could make use the treaty to charge bill maher and the producers of his show with it.


5 posted on 05/19/2009 11:19:13 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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Agree completely. These are no worse that a typical fraternity hazing at best. As soon as we let it be called torture, we got lumped into the same boat as thugs like Saddam Hussein, who actually did torture innocent people.


6 posted on 05/19/2009 11:22:28 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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I will never cede the moral argument to the ‘progressives’ who never have this country’s safety as a goal.


11 posted on 05/19/2009 11:37:23 AM PDT by griswold3 (a good story is more compelling than the search for truth)
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Apparently some colleges are experiencing “water boarding competitions”. The winner is the person who holds out the longest.

It’s not torture.


14 posted on 05/19/2009 11:50:04 AM PDT by texmexis best (uency)
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A terrorist can be waterboarded in the morning and start at shortstop in the afternoon for the terrorist intramural softball team. That's not torture. The scumbag liberals have never served their nation in the military and simply haven't the slightest clue. Here are descriptions of real torture:

Russian commandos describe torture of Chechens

23 posted on 05/19/2009 12:57:34 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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If these clowns can lay down in the street and put on a demonstation of it, and get up and walk away feeling all nice and self-righteous about it; it aint torture.


26 posted on 05/19/2009 1:40:02 PM PDT by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked. Prov. 25:26)
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