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Penn Jillette: Why I’m a Libertarian Nut Instead of Just a Nut
Glenn Beck dot com ^ | May 20, 2009 - 11:27 ET | Penn Gillette

Posted on 05/20/2009 2:10:08 PM PDT by FreeKeys

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To: itsahoot

You’re exactly right. That Beck is so in love with Penn Juliette says a lot about what he really believes. It’s beginning to look more and more like he’s trying to lead conservatives to the Libertarian party.


61 posted on 05/20/2009 4:20:15 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

Get the government out of the EDUCATION business. Then you won’t have it to worry about. You can then use SOCIETAL pressures to show your disapproval of the homosexual lifestyle. Which is the way it SHOULD be.


62 posted on 05/20/2009 4:21:28 PM PDT by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: neocon1984

Except she was a dedicated atheist.


63 posted on 05/20/2009 4:23:00 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: FreeKeys

....Bravo, Penn Jillette, Last time I posted about Mr. Jillette speaking his mind was on Larry King, and all I got back was sh!t about, Why are you watching him? Or fook him, if he’s there. (King). Same drivel from this forum for 8 years bashing third partys, and now the tin hats from the third party are celebrated, and they need to be included in the Gee Ohhh foookin Pee! Cause uuuhhh someobody fooked up the last election, ?!? ,.!,,


64 posted on 05/20/2009 4:24:34 PM PDT by gargoyle (...66.7% , A good round number...)
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To: Deb

So exactly WHAT is your disagreement with the article? Where is he wrong and why?


65 posted on 05/20/2009 4:28:10 PM PDT by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: boop

I meant, of course, that his sthick is not to talk, so “he doesn’t speak for anyone” comes from that. Their TV show takes on BS every episode, so you can tell both of them have firm views and libertarian minds.


66 posted on 05/20/2009 4:38:45 PM PDT by BlueStateBlues (Blue State business, Red State heart. . . . .Palin 2012----can't come soon enough!)
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To: evets

and the smokin’ hot Remi Spencer.


67 posted on 05/20/2009 4:54:15 PM PDT by isom35
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To: chuck_the_tv_out
“I don’t know what would be best for anyone. I don’t even know what’s best for me.”

The maxim ‘Nothing but perfection’ may be spelled ‘p-a-r-a-l-y-s-i-s’: Churchill

So suppose you do know what would be best for someone else. Is it right of you to force them to do it whether they want to or not?

68 posted on 05/20/2009 5:36:57 PM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Deb
That Beck is so in love with Penn Juliette says a lot about what he really believes.

Though Beck was ill today the Judge had the loonie Libertarian Ron Paul on today, and Beck had the other loonie on yesterday that said he wouldn't care if Israel disappeared.

If he continues this vein he will lose the people that count.

69 posted on 05/20/2009 5:41:34 PM PDT by itsahoot (Each generation takes to excess, what the previous generation accepted in moderation.)
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To: Notary Sojac
"I’m more convinced every day that the Republicans and the Democrats are morphing into the WWE: lots of bluster, lots of “rivalry”, but everyone gets to stick around for next month’s show, and both the heroes and villains get their paychecks from the same boyz.

That makes about as much sense as anything else I've read about politics since I've been 'paying attention'. I wouldn't be a BIT surprised if what you said were true. We no longer have two parties, we have two classes with opposing interests; on one side you have the political uber class, which is made up of most all politicians along with their beneficiaries and dependents, and on the other you have people like us who want to just do the best for themselves and their families as they can. The political class and everyone that depends on them can only exist by using the outcome of OUR success and labor, both current and future. It has grown so out of control they are even spending money WE haven't even yet produced. It's long past the time for a revolt!

70 posted on 05/20/2009 5:41:38 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Clemenza
I think the bible is mostly BS

Sadly many people do, and though you don't think you are discriminating, the dismissive attitude of Christians as weak minded cripples that need a crutch, is attack enough.

By the way that is a quote from Former Governor Jessie the Body Ventura.

71 posted on 05/20/2009 5:45:43 PM PDT by itsahoot (Each generation takes to excess, what the previous generation accepted in moderation.)
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To: Notary Sojac
We could keep those drugs illegal in the same way they were in, say the 1950's...go to jail if you are dealing or publicly under the influence. But we have to get rid of the no-knock raids, the asset forfeitures, and the local cops tricked out like military commandos.

It's the asset forfeitures and federal grant money for SWAT teams that drive the major crazyness. Follow the money.

A hundred years ago, there were no laws against cocaine or heroin. Prior to passage of the Harrison Narcotics Act in 1914, people could buy opiates in the local pharmacy. While there were a number of addicts, social controls kept a lid on things.

Since there was no welfare, anybody who became an addict ceased to be productive and became a burden on his or her family, who would have a strong incentive to deal with the addict. Not surprisingly, drug abuse became a big problem around the same time that welfare programs eliminated much of the consequences of allowing somebody to become an addict.

72 posted on 05/20/2009 5:56:27 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money -- Thatcher)
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To: PapaBear3625
Not surprisingly, drug abuse became a big problem around the same time that welfare programs eliminated much of the consequences of allowing somebody to become an addict.

Bingo. EXCELLENT point. Thanks for making it. I think I'll use it.

73 posted on 05/20/2009 7:24:37 PM PDT by FreeKeys ("Why do they call it 'common sense' when it's so uncommon?" -- Fred Thompson)
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To: dcwusmc; chuck_the_tv_out
“Just who is against those principles?”

Anyone who believes in using the power of the State to control, in any way, the non-coercive, voluntary behavior of other people. You, for example.

Full on gayness in the military? no thanks.

74 posted on 05/20/2009 7:43:09 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: ansel12
Full on gayness in the military? no thanks.

Volunteering for the military is negotiating a contract.

If the military chooses to regard certain acts as conduct prejudicial to good order and discipline it can do so and charge those in violation of the contract they signed.

75 posted on 05/20/2009 8:29:26 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (a competent small government conservative is good enough for government work)
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To: Oztrich Boy

Not if the Libertarians prevail over American culture and laws.

Homosexuals: 1.3 Personal Relationships (2008 Libertarian Party Platform)

Sexual orientation, preference, gender, or gender identity should have no impact on the rights of individuals by government, such as in current marriage, child custody, adoption, immigration or military service laws. Consenting adults should be free to choose their own sexual practices and personal relationships. Government does not have the authority to define, license or restrict personal relationships


76 posted on 05/20/2009 8:35:55 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: ansel12

We already discussed that.


77 posted on 05/20/2009 8:59:43 PM PDT by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

Full on gayness in the military? no thanks.

Just like Ronald Reagan I don’t go for that Libertarian “let it all hang out” stuff.


78 posted on 05/20/2009 9:05:30 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: ari-freedom
. . the govt should be able to use the modern media.

And what makes you think it does not?

Frankly, I'm sick to death of PSAs promoting everything from the Peace Corps to "buckle up." And with 0bama in the White House, it's only going to get worse, I'm afraid.

The government promoting morality is (borrowing from Penn Jillette's analogy) like a slaughterhouse pushing vegetarianism. You don't need to ask why.

79 posted on 05/20/2009 9:19:22 PM PDT by logician2u
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To: AlaskaErik
"The only major issue where I disagree with Libertarians is legalization of recreational drugs."

Then you disagree with the Constitution, which grants no authority to the Federal government to criminalize recreational drugs.
80 posted on 05/20/2009 10:12:45 PM PDT by RightOnTheLeftCoast (1st call: Abbas. 1st interview: Al Arabiya. 1st energy decision: halt drilling in UT. Arabs 1st!)
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