Skip to comments.Papal Message Seeks "Global Authority" for Economy
Posted on 07/07/2009 10:30:02 AM PDT by TheRiverNile
VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - Pope Benedict called on Tuesday for a "world political authority" to manage the global economy and for more government regulation of national economies to pull the world out of the current crisis and avoid a repeat.
The pope made his call for a re-think of the way the world economy is run in a new encyclical which touched on a number of social issues but whose main connecting thread was how the current crisis has affected both rich and poor nations.
Parts of the encyclical, titled "Charity in Truth," seemed bound to upset free marketeers because of its underlying rejection of unbridled capitalism and unregulated market forces, which he said had led to "thoroughly destructive" abuse of the system.
The pope said every economic decision had a moral consequence and called for "forms of redistribution" of wealth overseen by governments to help those most affected by crises.
Benedict said "there is an urgent need of a true world political authority" whose task would be "to manage the global economy; to revive economies hit by the crisis; to avoid any deterioration of the present crisis and the greater imbalances that would result."
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Black Pope ALERT!!!!!!!
I’m Roman Catholic and agree on nearly all of the church’s teachings. However he is DEAD wrong on this.
God gave us all FREEWILL to make choices.
1) some will create wealth that will benefit mankind,
2) some will obtain wealth out of greed
3) some will ENVY and COVET what others have earned
...and God will be the final judge with what one does with their wealth
The Catholic Church was established by Christ. The Roman Government merely recognized it as the faith Christ established and declared it the faith of the empire. The Catholic Church already existed for 350 years by that point.
Give a man a fish, you feed him for the day. Teach a man to fish, you feed him for a lifetime.
What the Pope needs to teach:
Let the deadbeats get off their backsides and stop begging for handouts.
My respect for this pope just dropped a number of pegs. It is one thing to castigate greed, as “the love of money is the root of all evil.” However, the Bible teaches us that as individuals we are to freely and lovingly give of our gifts to those less fortunate. To force us to submit to tyrants (and I would point out to the pope that many of them are distinctly non-Christian), and to be forcibly separated from the fruits of our labor, is decidedly un-Christian. It has no basis in Biblical teaching. Not in the Bible I’ve read, anyway.
Pretty bad message to be sending.
As I posted on another thread.....how many of you have actually read the encyclical?
But then again maybe reading it would be too great of a strain and destroy you well construction views and prejudices.
Who here has actually read the Pope’s encyclical, and not just what Reuters says the Pope said? Anyone? Anyone?
A large portion of the Christian churches was taken over through the seminaries and theological programs in academe at about the same time the statists took over the other programs.
It's simple, the Pope is an economic ignoramus. He means well, but so many disastrous events have occurred because some people were "meant well".
John Hagee has said some things about this.
I’m not going to say more, because I will get flamed and attacked.
I think the Pope should try reading the Bible.
Then may we tke it that you agree with the Pope’s idea? If so, who should lead this super world government, the Pope or the idiot Obama, who is trying to become dictator already?
One of the reasons that I am a fallen away RC.
There already is one. It is called the free market. Everything else is a futile attempt to restrain the unrestrainable.
“So the Pope is a communist?”
Nope. Not even close.
What is most surprising is how you could embarrass yourself this way.
“Im a Christian, not a Catholic.”
Catholics are Christians.
“Therefore, I view the pope as a good man who is flawed, and quite falible.”
He would agree with you.
“History tells us that the good modifier was a stretch for some popes.”
Yes, and “great” and “saintly” was a good modifier for many of them.
“As such, Id wish for the pope to tend to his business, that of spiritual guidance, and stay out of economic matters.”
Sometimes the two are very related. Ever hear of the poor?
WOW! How incredibly rude!
All Americans are not rich - they have set up a system that has enabled them to enjoy the fruits of much hard labor, unlike the other places you mention where it is simply stolen from them by that big one government.
Ok, this has got to be satire on the old “The Pope is the False Prophet of The Beast Anti-Christ system... blah, blah, blah”.
If not, IT IS MIND BOGGLING THAT THIS CURRENT VERY GODLY POPE, COULD BE SO INCREDIBLY IGNORANT AS TO WHAT HE IS CALLING FOR?! OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!
Proud once again to be Protestant.
Before this thread devolves into a bash-fest of Catholicism, let’s all try to remember that, as Larry Lucido said (implied) upthread, the Pope does not, nay, even CAN NOT, speak infallibly on matters not regarding faith and morals, thus, this should not be considered “official Catholic dogma” in any way. That is, economic opinion is not a matter of “faith and morals”.
With that said, also, I think it would behoove everyone to actually read the entire encyclical to gain a proper understanding of what the Pope is saying (and not saying). Found here: http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/benedict_xvi/encyclicals/documents/hf_ben-xvi_enc_20090629_caritas-in-veritate_en.html
I haven’t read it fully myself, but I’d be willing to bet he’s probably not calling for a “one world government” as some are believing.
“I think the Pope should try reading the Bible.”
What an incredibly ignorant comment on your part. He knows the Bible very well - including those verses about the poor and justice.
It is amazing to me how many Americans mistake American captalism for Christianity. Capitalism can serve Christianity, but it is not Chrisianity in itself by any stretch of the imagination.
Have you? How about telling us exactly where Reuters is lying?
It was released today, although signed by BXVI on the 29th. It is over 100 pages long with 160 footnotes - I don’t put a ton of stock in the MSMs reading of it.
Not even GOD ALMIGHTY HIMSELF puts a gun to your head and forces you to give to Him or to others. He says to do it with a good heart, cheerfully or don’t bother.
Hmmm....the illuminati....the free masons.....rockefeller.....skull and bones....secret societies....the catholic church....New World Order....
“This has absolutely nothing to do with faith and morals.”
I guess God was wrong to have His prophets complain so much in the Bible about poverty and injustice then, right? Strange how Jesus thought it mattered to the souls of men - and their judgment - but you think it doesn’t.
There is no global authority that can, or will be, moral.”
And that is really all that needs to be said.
Millions of folks are baffled by this remark from Pope Benedict.
The New World Order just got a huge boost.
not sure of your point.
“Tis more blessed to give than to receive and dammit, I’m going to see that you are blessed! Over and over again.”
Then he would do well to tell these people to follow America's example of individual liberty, hard work, and free-market capitalism...not condemn them to perpetual poverty through outdated, collectivist fallacies.
I’m sure there is a whole raft of really loud Preachers shaking the rooftops in churches and on youtube at the moment.
This being an encyclical, it is supposed to carry more weight isn’t it?
And what about those who don't wanted to be hereded like sheep by a shepherd -- Pope or otherwise?
I know it was a long time ago, but didn’t Charles V teach the Vatican to keep its nose out of this sort of thing?
The Church condemned communism numerous times. That is just throwing around terms.
This is disappointing to say the least, I had thought he was a Traditionalist, this borders on Liberation Theology and I never thought I’d hear that from this Pope.
This is Reuters that we’re talking about!
What in the hell??? The Pope is helping to reign in globalization in a political leader? This is freaky.
Forced giving via socialism IS EVIL AND IMMORAL TO THE CORE!
GOD ALMIGHTY doesn’t even force us to give against our will.
I haven't. But if you do and get a different read on it, please share it.
I am not a Roman Catholic so there is nothing for me to defend, but I am completely aware that the media spin on things can often reach orbital proportions -- and for the sake of the world's Roman Catholics, I do hope that it is just media spin and that the Pope didn't say or mean what we are hearing here.
tke = take
I’m dismayed that the Pope seems to believe in enslaving the masses to an anti-Christian, socialist global elite.
No way in hell I’d ever go along with something like this.
Prediction: The left will exploit this to push their agenda while ignoring other parts of the encyclical pertaining to moral issues.
If anyone read the unfiltered-through-Protestant-hands history of the Catholic Church, they’d be Catholic.