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Tehran's streets erupt after a key cleric speaks- Rafsanjani's harsh rebuke of Ahmadinejad ...
Los Angeles Times ^ | July 18, 2009 | Borzou Daragahi and Ramin Mostaghim

Posted on 07/17/2009 11:00:55 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Ayatollah Ali Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani's harsh rebuke of Ahmadinejad supporters is followed by renewed violence, suggesting the discontent over recent election results is as strong as ever.

Reporting from Tehran and Beirut -- Security forces fired tear gas and plainclothes militiamen armed with batons charged at crowds of protesters gathered near Tehran University after a Friday prayer sermon delivered by the cleric and opposition supporter Ayatollah Ali Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani, his first appearance at the nation's weekly keynote sermon since before the election.

Rafsanjani, in a closely watched speech, lashed out at the hard-line camp supporting President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, criticized the June 12 election results and promoted several key opposition demands. However, he failed to offer a solution to what has emerged as Iran's worst political crisis in decades.


His inconclusive speech and the Muslim Sabbath clashes between security forces and supporters of opposition figure Mir-Hossein Mousavi that followed suggested the political firestorm unleashed by the marred vote would continue and that the movement it had inspired was as strong as ever.

"We could have taken our best step in the history of the Islamic revolution had the election not faced problems," he told worshipers in and around Tehran University. "We are in doubt today. Today, we are living bitter conditions due to what happened after the announcement of the election result. All of us have suffered. We need unity more than any time else."

Even before Rafsanjani's speech began, security forces were stuffing young men into waiting police vans. Helmeted Basiji militiamen aboard motorcycles began pushing forward.

After the speech, downtown Tehran erupted in violence .....

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ahmadinejad; iran; iranviolence2009; rafsanjani; studentmovement; tm

1 posted on 07/17/2009 11:00:56 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: csense; NormsRevenge; jveritas; SandRat; Straight Vermonter; GeronL; Fred Nerks; Starman417; ...

Alert!


2 posted on 07/17/2009 11:07:15 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Obama: “It is time for the protesters in Iran to settle down and go back their jobs, their families and their daily lives. We have all seen the election results and the people have spoken through the voice of democracy. We deplore the violence that has occurred at the hands of militant protesters and seek to end it as soon as possible. And it is time for the truly legitimate government of Iran to go back to its job of leading the Iranian people and working towards annihilating Israel.”


3 posted on 07/17/2009 11:11:31 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Security forces fired tear gas and plainclothes militiamen armed with batons charged at crowds of protesters

An airdrop of some cheap pistols to the demostrators might do a demonstration good. Never bring a baton to a gun fight.

4 posted on 07/17/2009 11:13:56 AM PDT by hattend (Sarah Palin has run a fishing business, a city, and a state. All Obama has done is run his mouth.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Rafsanjani knows the jig is up. The Israeli’s are coming.


5 posted on 07/17/2009 11:14:57 AM PDT by blam
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To: hattend

Photo by Farhad Rajabali

How Obama Killed the Iran Election Protests

http://the-undercurrent.com/blog/how-obama-killed-the-iran-election-protests/

6 posted on 07/17/2009 11:28:23 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (The last time I looked, this is still Texas where I live.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

My hear bleeds for these brave, brave freedom fighters. If they just had a few guns...

“O Thou who made those heroes dare
To die, and leave their children free, —
Bid Time and Nature gently spare
The shaft we raised to them and Thee.”


7 posted on 07/17/2009 11:28:37 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Well Rafsanjani did it—he stirred up another protest. Khamenei must be fuming right now. I like it!


8 posted on 07/17/2009 11:57:54 AM PDT by G8 Diplomat
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To: Texas Fossil

Couldn’t make the link work, here:
http://the-undercurrent.com/blog/how-obama-killed-the-iran-election-protests/


9 posted on 07/17/2009 12:08:47 PM PDT by elpinta
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To: elpinta

Thanks, I tried the link as I composed it, but did not see that the reference page did not display properly.

Sorry.

TF


10 posted on 07/17/2009 12:24:10 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (The last time I looked, this is still Texas where I live.)
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To: G8 Diplomat

The Iranians want none-of-the-above.

This started out as a dispute among Mullah’s, but has taken on larger proportions.

The Iranian people actually want Freedom.

No wonder Obozo is silent.


11 posted on 07/17/2009 12:26:23 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (The last time I looked, this is still Texas where I live.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Mousavvi's twitter account -

mousavi1388Free the prisoners, this is no way to treat people هاشمی: کسانی که به این شکل دستگیر شدند باید آزاد شوند، این روش درست نیست #iranElection 28 minutes ago from web

12 posted on 07/17/2009 12:27:07 PM PDT by califamily4W (Freedom!)
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To: Texas Fossil

You’re right.

This stopped being about Musavi weeks ago. It’s a full-blown revolution now. Iran Azadi! (Free Iran!)


13 posted on 07/17/2009 12:29:05 PM PDT by G8 Diplomat
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I read a report yesterday, that there have been continuing night time skirmishes/riots, ever since the election coup in cities throughout Iran..that have not stopped.


14 posted on 07/17/2009 12:33:53 PM PDT by DGHoodini (The New York Times, are lying 'Rats!)
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To: DGHoodini

There are horrifying stories about young women protesters, who after being hauled away, are being raped, sodomized and sexually mutilated by these “Basij” and “Pasdaran”...They are servants of the devil. The Devil Khamenei! And they will suffer exactly what they have done to their own people. There will be no hiding for them. They will face equal punishment!


15 posted on 07/17/2009 12:39:55 PM PDT by DGHoodini (Iran Azadi!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Ball bearings under I'm-a-jihad's feet.

De-stabilized.

Why isn't the Strike-Hard repression working.

What we have is a "revolution of rising expectations".

Toothpaste. Tube.

New Moon's a-coming.

16 posted on 07/17/2009 12:40:48 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: G8 Diplomat

I have a prayer list that I send Twitter prayers to each day. Some in Farsi and some in English. Have not received a Twitter from any in over 12 hours. Hope they are still OK.

I try my best to reduce the exposure for them. I remove the messages from my sent history quickly, and police my “followers” and remove those who appear to be monitoring my activities. Especially those who show few “followers” and lots of “following”.

It is a shame that our Commander-In-Chief sides with the dictator. I guess that should not be surprising, considering how the Kenyan operates.


17 posted on 07/17/2009 12:45:42 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (The last time I looked, this is still Texas where I live.)
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To: abb; G8 Diplomat
Speaking of guns...we have a supposed writer regarding ethics on the Business Marketwatch web site who writes this article....:

The cost to bear arms ( Lefties try another angle to take away guns)

18 posted on 07/17/2009 12:46:28 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: DGHoodini

Persecution has a way of unifying a people.

Retribution will come.

Yes the Basij and Pasdaran are evil. So is Khamenei and his son.


19 posted on 07/17/2009 12:47:31 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (The last time I looked, this is still Texas where I live.)
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To: Texas Fossil

See #18...


20 posted on 07/17/2009 12:47:45 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: califamily4W
هاشمی: کسانی که به این شکل دستگیر شدند باید آزاد شوند، این روش درست نیست Machine translation>----> Hashemi: This form of those who were arrested must be released, this method is not correct
21 posted on 07/17/2009 12:50:44 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (The last time I looked, this is still Texas where I live.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Thanks for the link.


22 posted on 07/17/2009 1:07:42 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (The last time I looked, this is still Texas where I live.)
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To: Texas Fossil

Thank you


23 posted on 07/17/2009 1:38:04 PM PDT by califamily4W (Freedom!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
These protestors are getting played like violins. Someone gets them all fired up, the kids show up, the boys are executed and the women....Well, God be with them.

Effective trick. Chavez used it a while back. Remember when he "left" Venezuela. Flushed out his opponents for his return and then rounded them up. Gee, I wonder whatever happened to those guys? /Sarc.

24 posted on 07/17/2009 2:06:22 PM PDT by MattinNJ (And then there was one...Palin.)
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To: Texas Fossil; All; Spunky; ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1035rep; 2ndDivisionVet; 4woodenboats; 5Madman2; ...

Please share and pass around, identify the bad guys.

http://noiri.blogspot.com/2009/07/antimullah-request.html


25 posted on 07/17/2009 2:46:38 PM PDT by FARS (Be happy, be well)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Bump for later read


26 posted on 07/17/2009 2:55:17 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Stop meddling in the affairs of countries and individuals Obama!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

civil war!

who will the army obey?


27 posted on 07/17/2009 2:56:06 PM PDT by GeronL (UnitedCitizen.Blogspot.Com --------- United Citizens Nation! ------------- Join Today!)
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To: FARS
Just posted this:

BBC: (Rafsanjani ) Call for Iran protesters' release

28 posted on 07/17/2009 2:56:59 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: blam
Youtube:

Iran Tehran rafsanjani 17 July Protests Part 1

Iran Tehran rafsanjani 17 July Protests Part 2

Iran Protest Tehran 17 July rafsanjani Part 3 tear gas

29 posted on 07/17/2009 4:02:57 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: GeronL

See Links above.


30 posted on 07/17/2009 4:03:58 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Texas Fossil; califamily4W; FARS

See updated links just above...


31 posted on 07/17/2009 4:05:22 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Thanks for the links. That is the most recent I have seen. My usual input sources have been very quiet today. Possibly they were in the streets.


32 posted on 07/17/2009 4:59:19 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (The last time I looked, this is still Texas where I live.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Just a thought. Perhaps plans are in place for Raffy to take over from the Supreme one should things continue to go south. One could think those that really head the Islamic movement in Iran do not want their powers to diminish, so they allow what on the surface appears to be tectonic shifts to occur, with the understanding they have plans to always keep a biggy in power (Supreme Leader). But they may be underestimating just what the growing masses really want.
Personal freedoms come to mind. Freedoms not restricted by tough Islamic law. Only a secular government free of Islamic influence will fill the billet.
33 posted on 07/17/2009 6:51:08 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Fred Nerks; ...

thanks Ernest.

Rafsanjani says many Iranians have election doubts
Reuters | 07/17/09
Posted on 07/17/2009 4:50:12 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2294637/posts


34 posted on 07/17/2009 7:04:16 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: FARS

Thanks for the ping!


35 posted on 07/17/2009 8:22:36 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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Wasn’t Rafsanjani a former president himself, from 1989 to 1997? Nobody seems to mention it anymore.


36 posted on 07/18/2009 5:04:23 AM PDT by Berosus (I wish I had as much faith in God as liberals have in government.)
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A very bloody one. He apparently, like an eunuch (one of his nicknames) cannot grow face hair so stands out in the very hairy, bearded society.

He sent out hit squads all over the world to assassinate opposition leaders and their entourage and if I remember correctly was behind the bombing of a Jewish building in South America.

His fingers were in every business pie for profit and kickbacks and he is now one of the richest men in the world and helped fund the Green movement to the tune of $100 million.

He fears that if the Mullah regime falls, he will be taken to task for the killings AND for financially raping the country. As so many other Mullahs have done and are doing.

And as the Revolutionary Guard is now doing with huge project overruns in no-bid projects in every aspect of industry and manufacture.

37 posted on 07/18/2009 11:49:06 AM PDT by FARS (Be happy, be well)
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So, Rafsanjani, like Ahmadinejad and the Revolutionary Guard, has squandered the oil wealth.

Seventy per cent of Iranians born since the Revolution.

A growing realization perhaps that all the shuffling of the stage props (the "moderate" Khatami comes to mind) is merely a veil over repression and exploitation.

38 posted on 07/18/2009 12:13:20 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: FARS
From your link at top:

If anyone but naive, totally inexperienced useful fool, pro-Mullah, Moslem Oba-Hussein-Khomeini were in charge of America at this point in time where the legitimacy of the Islamic regime government is in question it is the moment to set up an Iranian government in exile and have it recognized by major Western countries and thus enlarge the split among the clergy factions.

And set in motion a defensible political change of regime.

AntiMullah has been working on a simplified process to implement this course of action but it would fall on deaf ears with the current Oba-Hussein administration which appears to be going out of its way to defend and support the Mullah regime instead of the desperate seeking of freedom of the populace.

Or, hard to discard with the way Oba-Hussein has behaved, the Mullahs have something they can hold over his head and blackmail or extort him.

Perhaps some other Western countries will wake up, realize the dangers of the control their Moslem communities are fomenting from inside their borders and work on defanging Islamic Iran while they still can. Or face a nuclear, suicidal Hojatieh Islamic Iran!

Your article is full of fun facts:

50,000 Russian "advisors" in-country

A crowd of up to three million reported by the Obamedia as "ten thousand"

Chants against the Russians and against the ayatollah

Your speculation that the mullahs "have something" on Obama is likely true--

--particularly as the Russians are being so helpful providing the mullahs with intel.

What we here knew a year ago--the legend "Barack Obama" is a Marxchurian Candidate--is gaining acceptance.

As his popularity plummets on a parallel path with the economy.

Tehran demonstrations--T-parties for the overwhelming majority who are mad as hell and aren't going to take it any more.

39 posted on 07/18/2009 12:44:07 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: FARS

Thanks for the ping!


40 posted on 07/18/2009 9:27:44 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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