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Liz Cheney Defends Birthers on Larry King
Right Pundits ^ | Tuesday, July 21st, 2009 at 8:12 pm | Bryan McAffee

Posted on 07/21/2009 9:23:29 PM PDT by Red Steel

Joan Walsh at Salon has an interesting blog post lambasting Liz Cheney’s appearance on the Larry King Show tonight. She throws a fit over Cheney “defending” Birthers on Larry King’s show and acts like this is the biggest political suicide ever. For those who are not aware of what a “birther” is, this is the Conservative equivalent to the “truthers” on the left who claim they just want the truth about 9/11, but really just want to subtly blame George Bush for blowing up the Trade Center. Birther’s believe that Obama is not qualified to be President of the United States because he was actually born in Kenya or Indonesia or in Hawaii before it was a state, or any variety of conspiracies that invalidate the Obama’s eligibility to be President. They claim that since Obama never has provided a Certificate of Live Birth issued by the State of Hawaii, that this proves he is hiding his true birth place. Personally I don’t think that, but I do think there is something on the COB that he wants to hide, like he is Muslim or something.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; cnn; eligibility; lizcheney; obama; wolverines
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To: GoCards
Just saw it. Liz is really good. Im not a big fan of the whole birther thing. It just doesnt get me all rowled up like other things. This health bill is giving me pains at night. I think this sudden interest in the birthers by the MSM is a ploy somehow. Palin? Lets talk about how crazy the Republicans are not how Obama is ruining our country... Im telling you the more I think about it the more I think it is a distraction. Reporters are now asking about the birth certificate and not talking Heath Care. Be Careful

It's important to realize that if we can conjure up doubt about the legitimacy of The One, that's all that's necessary.

What foreign government is going to entangle itself with a President who doesn't have support of his people, let alone one who has the potential to be tossed out of office?

What Congressional leader is going to let herself be pummeled when she can easily be shoring up for her own run in 2012? Do you think Nancy Pelosi would lift a finger to help 0bama with ANYTHING if she thought that weakening him would help her?

The only thing that can help 0bama now is a national emergency like a terrorist strike or a total financial collapse.

I don't believe this bunch has the balls to pull off the former, but I believe they have the mendacity to allow the latter.

61 posted on 07/22/2009 5:14:34 AM PDT by IncPen (Cap and trade? Now you know why Enron had to die.)
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To: IncPen
I just have to bump a comment from up above.

No matter what comes of this, a devastating chant from any crowd that assembles to protest The 0ne is going to be:

Who's Your Daddy!?

Who's Your Daddy!?

Who's Your Daddy!?

62 posted on 07/22/2009 5:20:38 AM PDT by IncPen (Cap and trade? Now you know why Enron had to die.)
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To: El Gato

Well, at one time, I would have agreed with you. But now, and the longer this goes on the more it will become imperative, I really wouldn’t be satisfied until Barack Obama’s long form birth certificate, which he admits to having in his book, is placed beside a certified copy of Hawaii’s long-form birth certificate and allow at least three forensic document experts (one of which being appointed by WND) to examine them both, side by side.

ex animo
davidfarrar


63 posted on 07/22/2009 5:27:16 AM PDT by DavidFarrar
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To: Domandred

We need to think about what it is that ties together the BC, school records from kindergarten through law school, passport, and any other documents he has locked down. What is the common thread? I don’t think it is something as minor as being listed as “Mulatto,” let’s say. (I’m using that only as an example, since I don’t know if that word was in vogue in 1961.) I keep going back to citizenship as the common thread.


64 posted on 07/22/2009 5:34:18 AM PDT by 1951Boomer
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To: GoCards
Im not a big fan of the whole birther thing

Then just for the sake of conversation please tell us how Obama qualifies as a Natural Born citizen?

65 posted on 07/22/2009 6:07:39 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (Jim Thompson 2012! Go JimTom Go!)
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To: Red Steel

I think 0’s daddy is Malcom X.


66 posted on 07/22/2009 6:18:17 AM PDT by Walmartian
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To: radu

If you saw it on a web page, the image is in your browser cache, unless your preferences are set to empty the cache at a certain interval.

I don’t know what browser you’re using, but as an example I’m using Safari, on a MacBook. If you go into the directory, there will be a folder within a folder named “cache” or similar, probably in a folder named the same as your browser, where every single image from every single web page you’ve visited is stored. Open a program on your computer that allows you to view JPEG files, PhotoShop, PhotoElements, CorelDraw, even Pixelpaint would work, and go through the cache.

If you saw it, this is how you’ll find it.


67 posted on 07/22/2009 6:38:09 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: radu; null and void; Beckwith; stockpirate; PhilDragoo; Candor7; MeekOneGOP; Myrddin; ...

This was a forged image made from a forged image, which is so easy to do that I did in two minutes. It amounts to garbage. Jay McKinnon had initially claimed that he was the one that forged Obama’s COLB. A week later, he recanted and admitted that he made up the story.

The story about McKinnon’s claims led to the creation of the longest running thread on FR, aka, “Uh-Oh,” and you can find it under certifigate.


68 posted on 07/22/2009 7:06:18 AM PDT by Polarik (Obama: When destroying America is not enough.)
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To: Eagle Eye; penelopesire

I don’t know why on every NBC thread there aren’t photos of the ORIGINAL ‘BIRTHERS’ McCaskill, Obama, Leahy, etal hashing out Sen. Resolution 511, trying massage the natural-born citizenship of McCain.


69 posted on 07/22/2009 7:47:53 AM PDT by txhurl (Put the pressure on and keep it on until this administration snaps.)
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To: txhurl

Good point! LOL!


70 posted on 07/22/2009 7:56:55 AM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: Domandred
Let’s play where Barack was actually born in Hawaii. What if he’s hiding his long form because his father isn’t his dad but someone else or unknown. Would that be embarrassing enough for him to hide it? Don’t think so. Is religion listed on a BC from Hawaii? Some States do, but others don’t.

OK. I'll play.

What if he was born a female or hermaphrodite?

71 posted on 07/22/2009 8:54:33 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 183 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: john mirse
The only fatal flaw in your plan is this:

...the 3 Obama representatives and the 3 media representatives...

That's only three people total.

72 posted on 07/22/2009 9:01:51 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 183 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: IncPen
The only thing that can help 0bama now is a national emergency like a terrorist strike or a total financial collapse.

I don't believe this bunch has the balls to pull off the former, but I believe they have the mendacity to allow the latter.

Did you mean?

I believe this bunch has the mendacity to enable former, and I believe they have the balls to pull off the the latter."?

73 posted on 07/22/2009 9:09:37 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 183 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Aurorales
The other major problem Barry has when attempting to make a false BC is .... a serial number or a registration number. The numbers are sequential and given to each baby's BC.

Didn't know that. That, (and forging credible attending identities) makes the task of forging Obama's bc damn near impossible, I'd say.

This is why we haven't seen one, and why Obama still refuses to release the original.

Now that this story is gaining even more traction in the press, the damage to Barry will only get worse and worse, as he continues to resist disclosure.

74 posted on 07/22/2009 9:43:54 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: 1234

Why do you think that governments have been forced to adopt all manner of high tech anti-counterfeiting measures to their currencies? Even some of the most sophisticated art collectors, experts, and museums have been fooled by master forgers.


75 posted on 07/22/2009 12:08:47 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Then Dr. Rodney West’s paper trail will have to put him in the exact time and place of Obama’s birth. There’s still the matter of any other attending nurses, administrators, or witnesses. All of their paper trails have to intersect at the same point in space and time, too.

But, the hardest part will be falsifying the sequential registration number. They’d have to find someone born in that hospital, on that date (or close to it), then scrub that person’s entire existence from every database in order to insert Barry’s phony bc in the sequence.

It’s a tall order, no matter how you look at it.

Then, there’s the little matter of the possible existence of a Kenyan bc. If that exists, you can rest assured that enemies of the US already have copies of it, and are using it as leverage against Odumbo.

But, that possibility is admittedly just speculation.


76 posted on 07/22/2009 12:20:54 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
But, the hardest part will be falsifying the sequential registration number. They’d have to find someone born in that hospital, on that date (or close to it), then scrub that person’s entire existence from every database in order to insert Barry’s phony bc in the sequence.

They've chosen Certificate No. 151 1961-010641.

Dr. Rodney West was practicing Obstetrics and Gynecology at the Straub (Women's) Clinic which was supposedly located at 410 South Beretania Street in Honolulu in 1961. In 1970 a new 159-bed hospital was built for the Straub Clinic. Many satellite office were opened. In 2001 Straub merged with Kapi'olani, which is why I believe Obama claims he was born at Kapi'olani Hospital. I believe the original location of Straub Clinic has since been torn down (not confirmed) so it's anyone's guess where Dr. West's records are. He passed away last year. It leaves open a good excuse for why Kapi'olani has no records for Ann Dunham.

I think they've been working on the things you've listed for about a year. If they've selected an Obstetrician who was practicing there in 1961 and a Certificate number, the other details aren't that difficult to work out. It won't be hard to find out who Dr. West's attending nurses were.

77 posted on 07/22/2009 1:14:25 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Character, Leadership, and Loyalty matter - Be an example, no matter the cost.)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Unfortunately, my cache is emptied periodically and it’s been several months since I saw that form on the Hawaiian gov’t.’s web site. It’s long gone by now.
:-(


78 posted on 07/22/2009 1:39:27 PM PDT by radu (May God watch over our troops and keep them safe)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
They've chosen Certificate No. 151 1961-010641.

Really? This is news to me. Got a link handy to read up that?

I wonder who's records they had to scrub to obtain that number? We'll probably never know. They'll make sure of that.

79 posted on 07/22/2009 1:53:31 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: tinamina
Personally, I want to see a copy of the one which has his footprints on it...

Hmm... now, that would be very hard to fake.

Personally, I've got two original birth certificates. One is the official long form, which is on file with the state, and the other is the hospital certificate. I'm sure the one that has my footprints is the hospital cert.

The hospital certificate isn't acceptable for use as proof of identification for government agencies, so this may never even come up with Obama's.

80 posted on 07/22/2009 2:00:17 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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