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(Obama) Born in the U.S.A. (says National Review)
National Review ^ | July 28, 2009 | The Editors

Posted on 07/28/2009 5:29:21 AM PDT by reaganaut1

Pres. Barack Obama has a birthday coming up, a week from Tuesday. We hope he takes the day off—or even the whole week, the briefest of respites from his busy schedule of truncating our liberties while exhausting both the public coffers and our patience. The president’s birthday comes to mind because we recently spent some time looking at a photograph of his birth certificate, being held by Joe Miller of Factcheck.org, who took the time to examine it. President Obama was born on August 4, 1961, at 7:24 p.m, in Honolulu County, Hawaii, on the island of Oahu. The serial number on his birth certificate is 010641. Baby Barack’s birth was not heralded, as some of his partisans have suggested, by a star in the east, but it was heralded by the Honolulu Star, as well as the Honolulu Advertiser, each of which published birth announcements for young Mr. Obama.

Much foolishness has become attached to the question of President Obama’s place of birth, and a few misguided souls among the Right have indulged it. The myth that Barack Obama is ineligible to be president represents the hunt for a magic bullet that will make all the unpleasant complications of his election and presidency disappear. We are used to seeing conspiracy theories from the Left, for instance among the one in three Democrats who believe that 9/11 was an inside job conducted with the foreknowledge of the Bush administration. We’ve seen everything under the sun blamed on Dick Cheney and Halliburton, and Rosie O’Donnell has given us much mirth with her metallurgical expertise, while Andrew Sullivan has beclowned himself and tarnished the good name of The Atlantic with his investigation into the “real” parentage of Trig Palin. Most notable, the Iraq War summoned the craziness in a big way, and there are those who still shudder over their espressos at the mention of the Carlyle Group. And there is a fair amount of crossover between those fixated on Obama’s birth certificate and the 9/11 “truthers” — lawyer Phil Berg, for instance, is a player in both worlds. There is nothing that President Obama’s coterie would enjoy more than to see the responsible Right become a mirror image of the loopy Left circa 2003.

The birth-certificate business is not a uniquely conservative phenomenon; the allegation that Obama was born in Kenya seems to have originated with a Hillary Clinton supporter at a blog called The Blue State. Either way, this fantasy is not particularly widespread within the conservative movement, but it has attracted enough interest that it needs to be addressed.

The fundamental fiction is that Obama has refused to release his “real” birth certificate. This is untrue. The document that Obama has made available is the document that Hawaiian authorities issue when they are asked for a birth certificate. There is no secondary document cloaked in darkness, only the state records that are used to generate birth certificates when they are requested.

If one applies for a United States passport, the passport office will demand a birth certificate. It defines this as an official document bearing “your full name, the full name of your parent(s), date and place of birth, sex, date the birth record was filed, and the seal or other certification of the official custodian of such records.” The Hawaiian birth certificate President Obama has produced—the document is formally known as a “certificate of live birth”—bears that information. It has been inspected by reporters, and several state officials have confirmed that the information in permanent state records is identical to that on the president’s birth certificate—which is precisely what one expects, of course, since the state records are used to generate those documents when they are requested. In other words, what President Obama has produced is the “real” birth certificate of myth and lore. The director of Hawaii’s health department and the registrar of records each has personally verified that the information on Obama’s birth certificate is identical to that in the state’s records, the so-called vault copy. Given that fact, we are loath even to engage the fanciful notion that President Obama was born elsewhere, contrary to the information on his birth certificate, but we note for the record that his mother was a native of Kansas, whose residents have been citizens of the United States for a very long time, and whose children are citizens of the United States as well.

The attention paid to President Obama’s place of birth is not unprecedented. In fact, it may be the only thing President Obama has in common with Pres. Chester Arthur, whose opponents whispered that he had been born in Canada. A number of unsuccessful presidential candidates—George Romney, Barry Goldwater, and Lowell Weicker among them—actually were born outside of the United States (in Mexico, the Arizona Territory, and Paris, respectively) to American parents and thereby into American citizenship. If the conspiracy theorists have evidence that President Obama went through the naturalization process, let them show it. But there is no such evidence, because this theory is based on unreality, as two minutes’ examining the claims of its proponents reveals. The hallmark of a conspiracy theory is that a lack of evidence for the theory is taken as yet more evidence for the theory. Indeed, the maddening thing about dealing with conspiracy hobbyists of this or any sort is the ever-shifting nature of their argument and their alleged evidence: Never mind the birth certificate, his step-grandmother said he was born in Kenya! (No, she didn’t.)

One of the unfortunate consequences of this red-herring discussion is that there are plenty of questions about Obama’s background and history that we would like to have answered. In spite of two books of memoirs, there remain murky areas in his biography. And when it comes to those college transcripts, count us among those who’d love to know whether Dr. Bailout ever took an advanced economics class and how he performed in it.

Barack Obama may prefer European-style socialized health care. He may consider himself a citizen of the Earth and sometimes address his audiences as “people of the world,” as though he were born not in another country but on another planet. Like Bruce Springsteen, he has a lot of bad political ideas; but he was born in the U.S.A.


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To: reaganaut1; All

“Obsession with Obama’s birth certificate is a distraction from opposing his agenda.”

Uh no, NR. Not unless you are the village idiot.

National Review (1955-2008) R I P


281 posted on 07/28/2009 8:39:45 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: TheBigIf
Not according to the Wikipeedia posting for Chester A. Arthur.

ex animo

davidfarrar

282 posted on 07/28/2009 8:40:43 AM PDT by DavidFarrar
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To: steve0

As his mentor Bill Ayers said (paraphrase) “it would have been an act of violence to not have these things”.


283 posted on 07/28/2009 8:41:18 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
Actually, from what I've read Obama's announcement had the place of birth in it.

But what have you seen?

The only one I saw did not mention a place of birth.

A Birth announcement is hearsay. The Birth CERTIFICATE (the one signed by the physician) is the document I want to SEE.

We have been told such a document exists, but to date it has not been released for public view. It is an historical document of significance. Why is it being withheld from public view?

284 posted on 07/28/2009 8:42:57 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: lovesdogs

Obama was sponsored for the White House going back to his “best selling” autobiography in 1995. The supposed destruction of documents occurred in 2001. And he’s on the national stage (again, long after he’d become an anonymous best seller) in 2004 where people “start” talking of him being good for the White House.


285 posted on 07/28/2009 8:43:04 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: reaganaut1

Obama can NEVER be a lawful President of the USA because his father was a BRITISH SUBJECT, and Obama was a BRITISH SUBJECT at birth. He can never be a NATURAL Born Citizen as require by the US Constitution.

I take it the US Constitution is important to you?


286 posted on 07/28/2009 8:43:19 AM PDT by plenipotentiary (Free the Oil, Topple the Saudis. Confiscate Putins money. Disconnect Siberia.)
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To: DavidFarrar

Show me where in the article from Wiki that it says that either of his parents were not American citizens.


287 posted on 07/28/2009 8:43:25 AM PDT by TheBigIf
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To: reaganaut1

Agree 100%.

I won’t insult the folks who are concerned about the birth certificate as others have. They are not cranks, but they are barking up the wrong tree. We need to focus on the here and now.


288 posted on 07/28/2009 8:44:41 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (We're definitely in the Rise of the Empire era, but is Obama Valorum or Palpatine?)
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To: reaganaut1
If President Obama is born in the USA, why not show his birth certificate, something that should be shown for every one running for president.

Could the reason for not showing it, assuming he is a natural born citizen, because he wants to set a precedent (for not revealing bc) for someone who is in the wings to be president but whose birth certificate would exclude him or her?

289 posted on 07/28/2009 8:45:05 AM PDT by apocalypto
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To: DB
Hawaii issued “birth certificates” to children not born in Hawaii. Known fact.

Yes, Zero's half-sister, Indonesian-born, also has a certificate of live birth from Hawaii. I read this yesterday on FR, so it must be true!

But seriously, I've never been much for conspiracies, but something about this just doesn't seem right.

Just release the long-form BC and be done with it!

290 posted on 07/28/2009 8:45:26 AM PDT by kevao
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

The newspaper account does NOT have the hospital.

PDF available from
http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Obama_1961_birth_announcement_from_Honolulu_Advertiser

http://wikileaks.org/leak/obama-1961-birth-announcement-from-honolulu-advertiser.pdf

“Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama, 6085 Kalanianaole Hwy. son, Aug 4”

No more, no less.


291 posted on 07/28/2009 8:47:09 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Many of the same voices in the media who says that there is no “there” to the birth certificate issue also say that it is wrong wrong wrong to call Obama’s policies “socialist”.

So what can we talk about today, Michael Jackson? Vick in the NFL? Sarah Palin?


292 posted on 07/28/2009 8:49:17 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: Cboldt
We obtained a photocopy of the original vital state record, on nice paper stock, embossed by the county clerk. It resembles, closely, what is referred to here as "the long form

Same here. There are posts just last month on FR where I was asking for help with some old military forms. I finally found what I needed at the county courthouse and said so on FR (in case there are naysayers). I was able to go into the back and browse through any and all birth record books and any other records I cared to pick up and open. Of course I knew I could from when I used to work in a county clerks office and because I've done family genealogy for years but this is just to show it can be done TODAY. I gave the original of what I wanted copied to the clerk, she xeroxed some of the documents and pressed the seal into them and stamped them and signed them in my presence and asked for $10 for each. Other papers, such as several birth certificates, I handed her the original in the book, she re-typed everything onto a nice thick colored embossed legal bc form and pressed the seal into it, stamped the date and other official info, signed her name and asked for $20. No fuss, no muss and all open and all official.

293 posted on 07/28/2009 8:50:59 AM PDT by bgill (The evidence simply does not support the official position of the Obama administration)
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To: April Lexington
Some just don't understand that there are many battles in a war. This is but one.

I think freepers have forgotten the last campaign when we were talking about getting inside Obeyme's "loop". He became rattled. We need to go after him on several fronts.

294 posted on 07/28/2009 8:55:27 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: apocalypto
If President Obama is born in the USA, why not show his birth certificate, something that should be shown for every one running for president.

Name one other candidate for President who was required to show his or her birth certificate.

295 posted on 07/28/2009 8:56:56 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: a fool in paradise
Many of the same voices in the media who says that there is no “there” to the birth certificate issue also say that it is wrong wrong wrong to call Obama’s policies “socialist”.

So? Did you know Barack Obama believes the moon landing took place? I suspect Bill and Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi do, too. Shall we all become moon landing conspiracists to avoid agreeinhg with them?

Your logic doesn't track.

So what can we talk about today, Michael Jackson? Vick in the NFL? Sarah Palin?

Seeing as I haven't tried to tell anyone what they can or can't talk about, that's an awfully big chip on your shoulder.

296 posted on 07/28/2009 8:57:13 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (We're definitely in the Rise of the Empire era, but is Obama Valorum or Palpatine?)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

“Obsession with Obama’s birth certificate is a distraction from opposing his agenda.”

Uh no, NR. Not unless you are the village idiot.
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Agreed. As others have said, people can multitask. It is possible this is a distraction, and it is also possible that this issue is yet another log on the fire.

For those claiming that this current uproar is an intentionally created distraction by Obama/MSM, my question is: what would have been his motivation for hiding all this info (BC, college records, etc.) last summer and fall when he was trying to build trust and a support base, while preaching transparency and ethics?


297 posted on 07/28/2009 8:57:23 AM PDT by Yooper4Life (47% voted against him, and millions stayed home.)
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To: reaganaut1
Here is Gov (commerce secretary elect)Bill Richardson saying in Spanish that Obama is an "immigrant." (So he understands understands "immigrant" issues.)The context suggests that by "immigrant" bill richardson means "illegal immigrant"



Here in plain English is the Kenyan Ambassador saying that Obama is born in Kenya.



Obama's own flacks deny that obama was born in Kenya but do acknowledge that he had a dual citizenship up until 1982

from obama's own site factcheck.org(this is cached as the original was taken down) by way of fightthesmears on his dual citizenship at birth

“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.

Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.”(Someone will want to cache the above web page because it will be taken down eventually. Ah here is the cached version.) Here is a better cached versionHere's a third Kindly cache these too.

Here is the problem with fighthesmears narrative: We already have recorded that Obama's wife michellle said Obama's mother was "very young and very single" when obama was born. British law at the time of obama's birth only gave citizenship from the father to the son in the case that the father is married to the mother:ie the son is legitimate. See wikipedia 2.4.3Since obama's parents were NOT married -- how did obama get his British/Kenyancitizenship? Its not unreasonable to think that he got his British/Kenyan because he was born there--and not because of his parentage. As to the famous newsclipping in Hawaii that states that bama was born there in 1961--there is evidence to suggest that the house named as the place where Obama was born -- was lived in by someone else besides his parents. Once again, Just one piece of evidence could easily be dismissed. It is the accumulation of evidence that is troubling.
It is well established that Obama did travel to Indonesia and Pakistan in 1981. In a tape of his speech at this April 6, 2008 San Francisco Fundraiser, Obama discloses his trip to Pakistan (40:17) when he was in college. On what passport did he travel?

A last arguement for baraks people might be that of course the Kenyans would have an interest in claiming that obama was a "son of the soil" both as a matter of pride and as a matter of bucks coming their way. However, if Obama was not born in Kenya -- then why wouldn't Obama release his original long form birth certificate. Instead of just releasing his long form birth certificate he has paid his lawyers 1 million dollars from campaign contributions since Sept 08 to squash the suits brought on the issue. On top of that according to the LA Times since the election -- the Kenyans feel that Obama has gone out of his way to snub/ignore/distance-himself them. The Kenyans are putting up reasons like perhaps they are insufficiently perfected for him to notice them--but here in the USA we have seen Obama throw a number of embarrasing people from his past under the bus. Obama is going to Africa. Will he visit Kenya? Nope. Exactly What IS a Natural Born Citizen?

The thing has become a joke in washington. Joe Biden Joked at the Gridiron Dinner in March 09.

After mentioning one of the Republican speakers for the evening, Arnold Schwarzenegger, was born in Austria and that one of the Democratic speakers, Michigan Gov. Jennifer Granholm, was born in Canada, Biden chortled: "Folks, this is going to be Lou Dobbs' worst nightmare. "

From there, Biden transitioned to the birth certificate controversy.

Les Kinsolving asked the Presidential Press Secretary Gibbs to release the long form birth certificate. The press secretary suggested mockingly that the copy of the short form birth certificate supplied online is Obama's long form birth certificate. Not so.(However, as of july 2009--eight months after the election-- Hawaii changed their rules so as to make the short form legal.There is even evidence to suggest the online "certification of live birth"--ie not a birth certificate--obama presented... was a forgery. See the press conference out take here.

The White House 'dialogue' site has to be scrubbed regularly because of long form birth certificate eligibility posts.

Rush Limbaugh joked several times on his radio show on 6/10/09: "What do God and Obama have in commen? (Answer) Neither have birth certificates."

Even the liberal LA Times on June 30, 2009 in an article dripping with contempt--conceded that the thing Obama's people posted online was "technically... not a birth certificate".

A bill in the US congress with 10 backers currently -- calls for future presidential candidates to be required to show a birth certificate.

The library of congress has recently started including the Obama File in its historic collections of Internet materials related to the Presidential Transition during a Time of Crises. The Obama File holds that Obama's birth certificate as presented online is bogus.

Now this story is starting to change. Some liberals in an open acknowledgement of Obama's problems are starting to call for a change in the constitution.Liberal defenders of Obama in full retreat on Birth CertificateNow The LA Times Wants To Amend the Constitution Rather Than Have Obama Show His Birth Certificate. (Translation: Yeah he’s not a Natural Born Citizen — As the Constitution Requires.)
298 posted on 07/28/2009 8:57:29 AM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: reaganaut1
A detroit radio station called the Kenyan embassy after the election of Obama. After a a few minutes they get through to the ambassador of Kenya.

The ambassador of Kenya says that obama was born in Kenya and that his birth place has become a national shrine.

Listen to the recording here. (Please save & cache the recording)

The quote is around 12:35, so if you don’t have time to listen to the whole thing, you can jump ahead.
Don't click through the link to utube on WND but rather listen to the recording on site. The transcript reads:

Radio Jockey: President elect Obama's birth place over in Kenya -- is that going to be a national spot where he was born

Ambassador Peter Ogego: its already an attraction. his paternal grandmother is still alive

Radio Jockey:But his birth place...they'll put up a marker there

Ambassdor Peter Ogego: It would depend on the government. Its already well known.

Here is an abridged Utube version of the the radio interview. So you can hear just the relevant parts. (be sure to save & cache this if you know how--because obama's people are actively hunting this stuff down)

It can be reasonably pointed out that the DJ was trying to entrap the Ambassador and that the Ambassador fell into his trap.
However, if you listen to the long version of the radio interview --you’ll notice he used the same strategy on two different occasions and the ambassador gently brushed him off.

First, he tried to force the ambassador to sing the Kenyan national anthem. The ambassador referred him to the kenyan website.

Second he tried to push the ambassador into saying something about maybe Kenya becoming the 51st state. Again the ambassador said that Kenya was a sovereign country. ie No.

He used the same technique on the question of Obama’s birth place. This time the ambassador did not brush him off. Rather in answer to the question as to whether Obama was born in Kenya --he says "It is well known."

Because the ambassador answered no in the two previous examples -- you can't say that the ambassdor was either a fool or ill advised.

Finally, you might ask well doesn't he know that saying Obama is born in Kenya would make trouble for Obama? The answer there is why should he be concerned? He has heard no suggestion in the mainstream media that there might be a problem there. So to say what is already well known--as he says--would be no problem.

Here is a utube video of Ambassador Peter Ogego speaking at a conference. Ambassador of Kenya H.E. Peter Ogego To verify that the voice on the radio is Ambassador Ogego-- compare the radio voice with the DJ to the voice on the Utube that goes with Ambassador Ogego. Ambassador Peter Ogego is introduced a bit after minute 18..

They are the same.


Subsequently, the Kenyan ambassador said that he meant Obama's father was born in Kenya. However, when pressed about Obama's birth place:

"I don't know," he said with a tone of irritation. "You should ask your government. I know his father is Kenyan."

However, that's not what the original transcript suggests. clear="all" /> Finally, there is a Affidavit of Bishop Ron McRae which is part of the Berg case. The Bishop says pretty much the same thing as the Ambassador.

"Additionally, it is common knowledge throughout both the Christian and Muslim communities in Kenya, that contrary to news media propaganda here in the United States, US Senator Barack Obama is a Muslim and not a Christian, and that he was born in Mombasa, Kenya and not in the State of Hawaii as falsely purported by the Obama campaign for presidency of the United States."

While you cannot impeach the ambassador's character, you can impeach McCrae's character. After all, he's just an itinerant preacher. But McCrae has been to Kenya. Still that makes two people who say that it is common knowledge in Kenya that Obama was born in Kenya.
Then of course there is a video of Obama's grandmother saying that Obama is born in Kenya
There is a case to be made that Obama mother didn't mean Obama was born in Kenya but rather that he is a "son of this village". However, witnesses insist that she said she was present at obama's birth in Kenya. If taken alone, perhaps she could well be ignored. However, her take is in keeping with others both high and low.

Again here is a pdf transcript of Kenyan National Assembly on Nov 5, 2008, the day after Obama was elected. Over and over again there are references to Obama being a "son of the soil" of Kenya and a Kenyan. On page page 3275 there is this passage:

HOUSE SHOULD ADJOURN TO DISCUSS ELECTION OF MR. BARRACK OBAMA

Ms. Odhiambo: On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. It is not on this issue. I stand on a point of order under Standing Order No.20 to seek leave for adjournment of the House to discuss the American presidential election results.

(Applause)

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the President-elect, Mr. Obama, is a son of the soil of this country. Every other country in this continent is celebrating the Obama win. It is only proper and fitting that the country which he originates from should show the same excitement, pomp and colour.



Again. It is not the one thing. Rather it is the tide.

In July 2009 a Ghanian newspapersays of Obama that ""For Ghana, Obama's visit will be a celebration of another milestone in African history as it hosts the first-ever African-American president on this presidential visit to the continent of his birth," The American Thinker explains here why Obama's short form released by fightthesmears is not sufficient for Hawaii. There is evidence to suggest that the home named in the newspaper archived article as the place where Obama was born -- was lived in by a couple not Obama's parents. Even the Honalulu Advertiser has a different address of record for Obama's father than the one listed newspaper birth listing. The hospital where Obama claims he was born--refuses to either confirm or deny that he was in fact born there--and that despite the fact that Obama has said he was born there in writing--and presented the hospital a memo to that effect...right after he was elected. What's more newspaper accounts of his birth place him in other hospitals around Hawaii. None of these will comment either.

Again. It is not the one thing. Rather it is the tide.

The Obama administration could put this to rest by releasing his long form birth certificate. But he doesn't. Instead of just releasing his long form birth certificate he has paid his lawyers over 1 million dollars from campaign contributions since Sept 08 to squash the suits brought on the issue. Why bother. The Arnold would have run for president long ago and likely won if he were a "natural born" american. He's not. He's naturalized. So he can't run. And he knows it. (though there were some trial balloons sent up a couple years back about changing the law--that went nowhere.)

Like the Arnold, Obama looks to be a naturalized citizen--but maybe he's not even that. Here's a footnoted timeline of obama's life 1961-2008. Its especially helpful to look at 1961 and 2008. Of interest is this: Interesting timeline with footnotes of obama's life.

of note

On April 10, 2008 Senator Claire McCaskill (D-MO) introduces Senate Resolution S. Res. 511 to “recognize that John Sidney McCain is a natural born citizen.” The resolution is allegedly meant to clarify that McCain is eligible to be President even though he was born in Panama. Because McCain’s parents were both Americans and he was born in Panama because his father was stationed there while in the military, existing law already covers McCain and he is eligible to be President. McCaskill’s resolution thus serves no purpose – except that language is included to try and provide a “blanket cover” for other foreign born candidates without military backgrounds, in order to enable Obama to be eligible to be President. This is the language that Obama inserted “Whereas previous presidential candidates were born outside of the United States of America and were understood to be eligible to be President;” This Clause has no particular relevance to McCain [The language is inserted by Obama.][301,303]

301# http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/10/11/obama-born-in-kenya-new-information/#more-3844

303 # http://watchdog.net/b/us/110/sr511

Obama's Senate efforts to airbrush his past were augmented by his top Intelligence Advisor in March 2008. Obama's Intelligence Adviser Involved in Security Breach. Obama’s top terrorism and intelligence adviser, John O. Brennan, heads a firm that was cited in March [2008] for breaching sensitive files in the State Department’s passport office, according to a State Department Inspector General’s report released this past July. The security breach, first reported by the Washington Times and later confirmed by State Department spokesman Sean McCormack, involved a contract employee of Brennan’s firm, The Analysis Corp., which has earned millions of dollars providing intelligence-related consulting services to federal agencies and private companies. During a State Department briefing on March 21, 2008, McCormack confirmed that the contractor had accessed the passport files of presidential candidates Barack Obama, Hillary Rodham Clinton, and John McCain, and that the inspector general had launched an investigation. Sources who tracked the investigation tell Newsmax that the main target of the breach was the Obama passport file, and that the contractor accessed the file in order to “cauterize” the records of potentially embarrassing information. In this video of Obama's reaction to the break in...he says twice that his reason for being concerned about the matter is not that he is concerned about what the records may reveal about himself...but rather etc. One denial is ok. Two denials in short order is of a piece with the other anomolies in his record. Especially since it seems Obama's people instigated the break in.
299 posted on 07/28/2009 8:58:28 AM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: leilani
They keep screaming about picking legislative battles but then they decide to vote for Sotomayor, They have NO legislative alternative for health care to speak of, they have NO economic plan to offer the American people as an alternative to the communists. Just what are they planning to do? I'll tell ya... they think they can win by default. NOT GOING TO HAPPEN, GOP! YOU NEED A PLAN AND SOME BRAINS TO WIN!!!!!
300 posted on 07/28/2009 8:59:14 AM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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