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Why Palin Fans Feel Betrayed
Pajamas Media ^ | July 31 | John Hawkins

Posted on 07/31/2009 9:23:39 AM PDT by AJKauf

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To: Al B.; MissTickly

The gap is improving but the point is that occasionally I see a post such as feminist Ms tickly’s that is trying to paint a picture that is the opposite of the truth, it is very weird to make those posts except as an attempt to spread some phony feminist illusion.


61 posted on 07/31/2009 10:22:09 AM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: AJKauf
Other than the misleading title this a great article.

There’s only one Sarah Palin and there’s not another soul on the national stage who can even come close to filling her high heels. At a time when the Republican Party has lost so many seats in Congress that it’s teetering on the brink of irrelevancy, Palin’s detractors on the right should ask themselves how much sense it makes to help the liberal media try to tear down the biggest star in the conservative movement.

62 posted on 07/31/2009 10:22:30 AM PDT by McGruff (Where's the REAL birth certificate? - Jim Robinson)
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To: nmh

I am Sarah’s #1 supporter and I gave her money, twice and I gave to her Pac. Conservatives4Palin also had a webathon in late June where over a 130,000 was raised, considering how bad this economy is, people were willing to give. You don’t know how much money was raised by that defense fund, but the way it’s looking, the bastards on the left will make sure she doesnt see a dime of it


63 posted on 07/31/2009 10:23:52 AM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: vaudine
>I love her red heels--shows her very feminine side and her own distinctive style. Notice how Michelle's "own style" is touted as soooo fashionable and Palin 's distinctive style is "slutty"

Dole versus Clinton--
I remember all the posts
about Dole's high heels . . .

64 posted on 07/31/2009 10:24:58 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: MissTickly
Here's another dirty little secret that the media doesn't want anybody to know. According to the #1 most accurate independent poll (Rasmussen), Palin is +2 overall on fav-unfav, Barack Obama is -3 as of this morning.

You heard it here...LOL.

65 posted on 07/31/2009 10:27:37 AM PDT by Al B. (Sarah Palin: Government "can't make you happy or healthy or wealthy or wise".)
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To: Al B.

Oh, and I thank you for sharing that one, too!


66 posted on 07/31/2009 10:28:21 AM PDT by MissTickly
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To: AJKauf
The last paragraph is a nice summation:
There’s only one Sarah Palin and there’s not another soul on the national stage who can even come close to filling her high heels. At a time when the Republican Party has lost so many seats in Congress that it’s teetering on the brink of irrelevancy, Palin’s detractors on the right should ask themselves how much sense it makes to help the liberal media try to tear down the biggest star in the conservative movement.
Clearly, Sarah is an apple cart upsetter. But it NEEDS to be upset.

Thus, I suspect there are many arrogant, territory protecting, empire building muckety mucks in the Republican party that hate her guts.

67 posted on 07/31/2009 10:28:59 AM PDT by upchuck (Psalm 109:8 ~ Let his days be few; and let another take his office.)
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To: AJKauf

Do I think that Palin should be the next president? No.

Do I think she should be a leading voice of the conservative movement? Absolutely! So in that sense I am a big fan of her, just like I am of Rush


68 posted on 07/31/2009 10:30:26 AM PDT by ari-freedom (Fiscal conservatism without social conservatism is dead.)
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To: Al B.

I did not see that Palin was +2 in favorables/unfavorables according to Rasmussen. Where did you get that?


69 posted on 07/31/2009 10:34:47 AM PDT by techno
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To: techno
I did not see that Palin was +2 in favorables/unfavorables according to Rasmussen. Where did you get that?

The number in my mind was 47/45. I see now that's the PPP number. Right number, wrong poll, sorry.

Since Rasmussen has Palin at -6 in a Palin/Obama matchup and PPP has it at -8, the Palin fav/unfav for Rasmussen has to be pretty similar, I would think, but I do not have access to the crosstab data.

70 posted on 07/31/2009 10:45:49 AM PDT by Al B. (Sarah Palin: Government "can't make you happy or healthy or wealthy or wise".)
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To: techno

hey techno!! did you see naomi wolf and that PHD guy on O’reilly last night??


71 posted on 07/31/2009 10:47:22 AM PDT by MountainWoman
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To: AJKauf
"That doesn’t mean Sarah Palin can’t be criticized from the right or that all of her critics have bad motives. Palin certainly can and should be knocked, if and when she deserves it." "At a time when the Republican Party has lost so many seats in Congress that it’s teetering on the brink of irrelevancy, Palin’s detractors on the right should ask themselves how much sense it makes to help the liberal media try to tear down the biggest star in the conservative movement." This is the type of contradictory postitions that typify a Hawkins column. He is adverse to taking strong positions and tries to please everyone. Grow a spine John.
72 posted on 07/31/2009 10:50:06 AM PDT by Bob J ("For every 1000 hacking at the branches of evil, one strikes at it's root.")
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To: Bob J; AJKauf

Indeed the virulence and irrationality and even the flat dishonesty of most of the attacks on her make it almost impossible to have a real discussion about her.

I don’t know if she’s going to be president, I don’t know if she wants to be president. I expect her to try and find her footing over the next couple of years, find the level she wants to engage at, and until then maybe she doesn’t even know for sure what she’s going to do.

But I know she has good instincts (if a little more populist than me). She has character, she tries sincerely to do the right thing, and she is brave, and not afraid of a fight. So I can’t help but admire her.

And when the time comes, if she decides she wants to be president, I would far rather have her than any of the weasels who have been sniping at her from the shadows, or damning her with faint praise.

When they take a position, its been nuanced and focus-grouped and they’ve calculated it will attract the key demographics they need (while keeping the door open for a mid-field correction when the time comes). When she takes a position, its because she means it. That by itself is gold.


73 posted on 07/31/2009 11:18:12 AM PDT by marron
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To: AJKauf

I’ll bet Sarah is doing a little summer reading...
“The Health care package”


74 posted on 07/31/2009 11:21:39 AM PDT by savage woman
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To: nmh

While I’m all in favor of strong family values, you’re a damned fool if you think they can guarantee your kid won’t go off the rails. You do the best you can and pray for a good outcome.


75 posted on 07/31/2009 11:27:16 AM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: marron

Can somebody please explain to me what’s so wrong with being a populist?

Isn’t the root word of populist, people?

And isn’t this the country in which all [people] are created equal and endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights?”

And didn’t Lincoln implore us that this government, which is “of the people, by the people, and for the people shall not perish from the earth”?

So when in the history of this constitutional democracy did “populist” or “person of the people” become a dirty word?

Thanks.


76 posted on 07/31/2009 12:22:43 PM PDT by hrh40
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To: nmh

Interesting point — got any hard statistics?


77 posted on 07/31/2009 12:40:04 PM PDT by steve-b (Intelligent Design -- "A Wizard Did It")
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To: hrh40

Populism inevitably is rabble-rousing. Socialism is essentially populism. Free food and free circuses.

There are various forms of populism-left and populism-right but it boils back to the same thing.

This is quite different from the kind of republican democracy you are describing. You are describing John Locke-Thomas Jeffersonian “classic liberalism”. Thats quite different.

Populists will overthrow republican democracy every time. Chavez in Venezuela is the classic populist. He is the master at working the crowd.

When I made my remark about Palin, it was a throwaway comment. She is not a populist, by no means. But she occasionally reverts to populist language without probably noticing it, and probably few people do. Her actual instincts are conservative, republican, classic liberalism. So I’m not worried about her.


78 posted on 07/31/2009 12:40:42 PM PDT by marron
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To: AJKauf

conservatives have been betrayed by the GOP for years. They take us for granted, figuring we have no place else to go. They know we won’t vote for the dems, they know that most of us think that voting 3rd party is the same as voting for the dems, and they know we won’t stay home enmass, so they just trample what we believe in under their feet, and thumb their noses at us. That is why the fear Sarah Palin as much, if not more than the dems do. If Palin were to win the nomination (and she will if she runs) even if she loses to 0bama, she would still be the big gun in the GOP, and that would mean that all the country club, party boys and girls will be out of their cushy jobs. Palin would install people like her in key positions, and rebuild the party in her own image. Wouldn’t that be wonderful, a party that would not scorn us.


79 posted on 07/31/2009 2:20:34 PM PDT by euram
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To: nmh
However we don't share Palin family values.

Got a mouse in your pocket?

Sure a “Bristol” could happen to anyone BUT with strong family values at HOME, it doesn't happen.

BS...cite statistics to support this nonsense please.

It's Mom doing her job at home till the kids are grown - THEN GO FOR IT!

And here I thought neanderthals were extinct, did you get caught in a time warp?

The rest of your comments are pure crap. You are disgusting to categorize women who work as being neglectful of their families, shame on you. Call yourself whatever you want, but if you support that lying RINO Mitt, you are a RINO as well.

80 posted on 07/31/2009 2:42:02 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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