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The Air Force Seeks the F-22's Low-Tech Alternative (bring back the Mustang?)
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| 8/27/2009
| Mark Thompson
Posted on 08/27/2009 7:17:59 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: taildragger
“A contract to build 242 new A-10 wing sets was awarded to Boeing on 29 June 2007”
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posted on
08/27/2009 7:33:35 AM PDT
by
Paladin2
(Big Ears + Big Spending --> BigEarMarx, the man behind TOTUS)
To: markomalley
the skyraider was a kick ass aircraft....for the role of hunting and fighting insurgents and close ground support role, it is an excellent platform...just because it is not a jet does not render it useless by any means...i say buy a few hundred of them and turn them loose..
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posted on
08/27/2009 7:33:35 AM PDT
by
joe fonebone
(When you ask God for help, sometimes he sends the Marines.)
To: quikdrw
Just fire up the production lines for the A-10.Just like that. No big deal, huh?
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posted on
08/27/2009 7:34:29 AM PDT
by
A.A. Cunningham
(Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
To: markomalley
most likely prop-driven that it can use to kill insurgents today and use to train local pilots such as Afghans or Iraqis tomorrow. Prop driven, really? Nice fact free article.
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posted on
08/27/2009 7:34:42 AM PDT
by
Lx
To: Vaquero
Exactly, Bi-planes would be cheaper
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posted on
08/27/2009 7:35:03 AM PDT
by
faucetman
(Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
To: Regulator
That’s the plane we need!
Just add some all-weather attack capability - maybe in pods to keep the unit price down and increase flexibility. It’s time for “The Return of the Spad!”
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posted on
08/27/2009 7:35:14 AM PDT
by
Little Ray
(Obama is a kamikaze president aimed at the heart of this Republic.)
To: Vaquero
The list of requirements must have a GE engine after all they own D.C.
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posted on
08/27/2009 7:35:37 AM PDT
by
Vaduz
To: Constitution Day
Did the A-10 go anywhere?
They broke up the machine tools and jigs to build new ones. As the get use/shot up there are no new ones to replace the ones being lost. We need to build new A-10s before the last of the old ones are used up.
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posted on
08/27/2009 7:36:48 AM PDT
by
GonzoGOP
(There are millions of paranoid people in the world, and they are all out to get me.)
To: joe fonebone
..i say buy a few hundred of them and turn them loose..
on Washington!
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posted on
08/27/2009 7:37:15 AM PDT
by
Don Corleone
("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
To: taildragger; SpeedRacer; markomalley
Tooling is gone, but a follow on to it would be sweet, I have some ideas, but that is just back of the envelope armchair aero-design and unfortunately may not go anywhere.. Boeing is building something like 200 new sets of wings for the existing fleet of A-10's.
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posted on
08/27/2009 7:37:50 AM PDT
by
Paleo Conservative
(I wonder why Solomon Ortiz (TX-27) is so afraid of talking with his constituents?)
To: taildragger
Last I heard, where the assembly line for the A-10 was once located, there is now a Home Depot. A-10s are being sent to Davis-Monthan AFB in Arizona where their wings are being rebuilt and electronics are being upgraded. They are being returned to service as A-10Cs. A number of countries operate trainers that can be fitted up as light attack aircraft. We have had attack versions of the At-6, the T-28 and the T-33. However, in order to allow the âlittle guysâ to do their thing, it is necessary to achieve and maintain aerial superiority.
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posted on
08/27/2009 7:39:24 AM PDT
by
JayVee
(Joseph)
To: markomalley
Wonder how a 200 mph plane would stand up to surface-to-air missiles? A prop aircraft might not have enough IR signature for many man-portable SAMs to lock on.
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posted on
08/27/2009 7:39:28 AM PDT
by
PapaBear3625
(Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
To: markomalley
The Air Tractor...yep...thats right...the famous crop duster is being looked at for light attack and intel/time on station recon duty.
Its beating the pants of its competition.
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posted on
08/27/2009 7:40:10 AM PDT
by
Tainan
(Cogito, ergo conservatus)
To: joe fonebone
Skyraider was great ... in the 1950s.
Do we really want to field an aircraft that burns avgas in a radial engine?
How do you think it would fare against modern air defenses, from ManPADS on up?
Is 8000lb really enough payload? Is an all-aluminum, riveted airframe really the way to build an aircraft in 2009?
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posted on
08/27/2009 7:41:03 AM PDT
by
ArrogantBustard
(Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
To: markomalley
I hate to agree with these folks when we really DO need more F-22s...
But, when was the last time an enemy shot a SAM at us?
It doesn’t make any sense to use a $350 million F-22 for “air to mud” in an environment where we have air dominance. It DOES make sense to use a slow, cheap aircraft with a good loiter time. We need NCO pilots and something equivalent to the A-1 Skyraider for COIN air support. Another aircraft that would be perfect would be a buffed-up OV-10 Bronco.
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posted on
08/27/2009 7:41:10 AM PDT
by
Little Ray
(Obama is a kamikaze president aimed at the heart of this Republic.)
To: markomalley
UCAVs armed with latest AAMs coupled with Raptor-like long-range look-up, look-down early detection sensors, etc.
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posted on
08/27/2009 7:41:15 AM PDT
by
cranked
To: Little Ray
But, when was the last time an enemy shot a SAM at us? 2003. Coincidentally, that was also the last time we fought an organised enemy.
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posted on
08/27/2009 7:44:17 AM PDT
by
ArrogantBustard
(Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
To: PapaBear3625
In that case why not build the aircraft with twin engines for survivability, and heavy gun armament, good range, 400mph speed. Oh and build it out of some material that doesn't reflect radar.
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posted on
08/27/2009 7:45:19 AM PDT
by
GonzoGOP
(There are millions of paranoid people in the world, and they are all out to get me.)
To: markomalley
We already have prop-driven aircraft being used to fight insurgents, currently being produced in large numbers. They're called Predator UAVs:
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posted on
08/27/2009 7:45:28 AM PDT
by
PapaBear3625
(Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
To: PapaBear3625
A prop aircraft might not have enough IR signature for many man-portable SAMs to lock on. I think the USSR, after their experience in Afghanistan, might tend to question that assertion.
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posted on
08/27/2009 7:45:34 AM PDT
by
markomalley
(Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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