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'Cash for Refrigerators' Debuts in Fall. Really.
Real Clear Markets ^ | August 25, 2009 | Joe Walsh

Posted on 08/30/2009 5:59:29 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin

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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Worse still, this program does not borrow one component from Clunkers that would actually have been effective: there is no requirement to take the old appliance offline.

Then it is easy to predict what will happen to the old ones. Many will just be resold, many will wind up in the garage to keep the beer cold.

To see a significant increase in energy consumption someone would have to be replacing a real old refrigerator. In about 1993 the effeciency standards were significantly improved, about the time R-22 freon was phased out.

21 posted on 08/30/2009 6:33:38 AM PDT by TruthWillWin (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples money.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Bammy, STOP giving my money away. I work hard for it. Stop giving it to your freeloader friends. It’s not yours to give.


22 posted on 08/30/2009 6:33:53 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Obama's New New Deal = The Raw Deal)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I need a new refrig.


23 posted on 08/30/2009 6:35:04 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: scooby321

Not just the money as income taxable, but the dealers are having to charge the sales tax on it as well.


24 posted on 08/30/2009 6:36:36 AM PDT by doodad
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To: BilLies

More votes bought and paid for.


25 posted on 08/30/2009 6:36:58 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("Much of political rhetoric serves as a substitute for reasoning." ~Thomas Sowell)
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To: scooby321
they will get a 1099 as will the shocked Cash for Clunkers will

Too bad, so sad.

26 posted on 08/30/2009 6:38:08 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("Much of political rhetoric serves as a substitute for reasoning." ~Thomas Sowell)
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To: mewzilla

They bring good things to life.


27 posted on 08/30/2009 6:39:29 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Another aspect of these programs - how do too-early buyers feel about having 'missed out' on these 'rebates'. I bought an old house last year, replaced the windows with insulated impact resistant ones, new refrigerator for a constantly running one and other such tasks. If I had just waited until after January 1st, I would have been much better off. What do I think; I am STEAMED at the Administration but I am STILL HAPPY that I did what I did for my own reasons.

In other words - I am NOT DRIVEN by idiot government, I am driven by my own enlightened self interest. What these programs do is to give incentive to the dim-bulbs to do those things that have some logic. Of course the government then turns around and taxes these rebates - gotch-ya!

28 posted on 08/30/2009 6:43:49 AM PDT by SES1066 (Cycling to conserve, Conservative to save, Saving to Retire, will Retire to Cycle.)
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To: scooby321
They won't receive a 1099, but more than likely will have to pay sales tax on the rebate amount.

Is the credit subject to being taxed as income to the consumers that participate in the program?

NO. The CARS Act expressly provides that the credit is not income for the consumer

Cash for Clunkers

29 posted on 08/30/2009 6:48:12 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

AFAICT, it’s called the Cash for Refrigerators Rebate Program.

I wonder if it’s anything like Staples’ Mail-in Rebate programs? Some 8 to 10 weeks later, if you haven’t received your rebate check, call this number to be abused by a an unmotivated, clueless $6/hr clerk whose job it is to convince you to give up trying to actually receive your rebate check.

Oh yeah, I woke up this morning and tol’ the wife the one thing that is missing in our lives is to be taxed more to pay for the federal government to give money to people without jobs who still want to buy stuff they can’t afford.

I live for these opportunities to serve Lord Obama.


30 posted on 08/30/2009 6:56:58 AM PDT by savedbygrace (You are only leading if someone follows. Otherwise, you just wandered off... [Smokin' Joe])
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http://www.businessinsider.com/whoops-cash-for-clunker-participants-dont-realize-their-rebates-get-taxed-2009-8

Keloland Television: But many of those cashing in on the clunkers program are surprised when they get to the treasurer's office windows. That's because the government's rebate of up to $4500 dollars for every clunker is taxable.

31 posted on 08/30/2009 6:58:47 AM PDT by scooby321 (and)
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To: BallyBill

I’ve just been throwing our old refrigerators in the creek for the past 20 years, typical redneck gun and bible-clingin’ whitey that I am.

What a job that’ll be hauling them all out as trade-ins! ;)


32 posted on 08/30/2009 7:01:25 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Clunker refrigerators can be recycled to bury grandma.


33 posted on 08/30/2009 7:01:31 AM PDT by maggief (KennedyCare ... Dead in the Water)
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To: Graybeard58

“All I ever wanted was a free pony anyway.”

You’ll find one under that pile of manure over there. Here’s a teaspoon...start diggin’, LOL! :)


34 posted on 08/30/2009 7:02:53 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: SES1066

“I am driven by my own enlightened self interest.”

Amen to that.


35 posted on 08/30/2009 7:04:51 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

They are right. We need a new frig in our remodel..incentive and the old one goes to our garage for wine, beer and soda. Plus Costco backup.


36 posted on 08/30/2009 7:11:01 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Hmmmm, we were going to buy a new fridge this week....guess we’ll wait a while....that will help the economy...

When’s ‘cash for TV’s’ coming down the pike?

I was thinking about buying some new sheets for the beds, might as well wait for any discounts from the government.

The USA = ‘Out of Business Liquidation Sale’ “Everything Must Go”


37 posted on 08/30/2009 7:22:34 AM PDT by libertarian27 (Ingsoc: Life, Liberty and the Department of Happiness)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Let me know when the Cash 4 Hookers program gets instituted....


38 posted on 08/30/2009 7:24:46 AM PDT by freebilly ( No wonder all the left has a boner for Obama.... There's "Cialis" in "SoCIALISt")
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Dang it. Let me know when they get to dishwashers, mine sucks.


39 posted on 08/30/2009 7:26:18 AM PDT by ladyvet (WOLVERINES!!!!!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

“So, what do you do when you have a poorly-conceived and ill-managed project winding down “

You repeat it, subsidize it, and expand it.


40 posted on 08/30/2009 7:35:02 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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