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Mark Steyn: Beyond Transgression - You can’t make a Hamlet without breaking a few chicks?
National Review Online ^ | October 03, 2009 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 10/03/2009 8:27:42 AM PDT by neverdem

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To: neverdem
You cannot be a great artist without forcibly deflowering a young virgin. Or so we are told in Polanski's defense. Art is above elementary considerations of right and wrong. Polanski's flouting of bourgeois convention only heightens his appeal to his supporters. The defiance of the man is why they have rallied around him. It says a lot more about them than it does about his critics who want to see him pay for his crime.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find only things evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelogus

41 posted on 10/03/2009 2:31:42 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Jeff Chandler
Yes, it was rape of the worst kind. There is no statute of limitations on a felony. Polanski's achievements don't excuse his crime. To the contrary, they condemn him by reminding us mortals of the fact life is fleeting - especially fame and privileged impunity. Sooner or later, the most detestable man is laid low before God.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find only things evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelogus

42 posted on 10/03/2009 2:37:14 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: neverdem
“Hollywood has the best moral compass, because it has compassion,”

Didn't the NYTimes just praise Obama today because of his "moral compass"?

I must have missed that one in the new lefty lexicon.

43 posted on 10/03/2009 2:38:26 PM PDT by GVnana (Sarah for America)
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To: BibChr
Dang, he’s good.

Steyn's so good, he makes all of us amateurs look like rank amateurs.

Speaking mostly for myself, of course.

44 posted on 10/03/2009 2:40:50 PM PDT by Night Hides Not (If Dick Cheney = Darth Vader, then Joe Biden = Dark Helmet)
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To: neverdem
Scathing Steyn!

I think this is one of his best columns I've read (well...ok...until the next one)
/end Steyn sycophancy

45 posted on 10/03/2009 3:18:44 PM PDT by MaggieCarta (We're all Detroiters now.)
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To: Mamzelle
Hawhaw—has Steyn written one of his delightfully stinging pieces on the O-Stooges Excellent Copenhagen Adventure?

IIRC, that was the subject that I was expecting. I can't say I'm disappointed with this essay.

46 posted on 10/03/2009 3:32:07 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: Carry_Okie

Great back-story, when will the script be done?


47 posted on 10/03/2009 4:00:16 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, then writes again.)
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To: Old Professer
Great back-story, when will the script be done?

Lol, it's been written. The first press release goes out this week.

48 posted on 10/03/2009 5:29:18 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Grovelnator Schwarzenkaiser, fashionable fascism one charade at a time.)
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To: Ole Okie
Göring would have been referring to the 9-millimeter semiautomatic pistol manufactured by Fabrique Nationale whose plants were seized by the Germans when they overran Belgium in 1940. The pistol was adopted by the Waffen SS. The American version is the Browning Hi-Power. There is no proof Göring ever spoke the words quoted. The line may have been concocted by the same Allied propaganda office that said Hitler was demented by late stage syphilis. The “culture” I was alluding to is Hollywood.
49 posted on 10/03/2009 7:00:48 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: goldstategop

“You cannot be a great artist without forcibly deflowering a young virgin.”

Might this unenlightened one ask when “deflowering”, a word traditionally used to refer to the breaking of the virgin’s hymen during first intercourse, became a substitute for forcible sodomy?

Perhaps “debauched” would have been a better choice of words?

In any case, I am unaware of any artistic tradition of buggering fair young maidens as a milestone on the road to artistic greatness.


50 posted on 10/03/2009 9:37:27 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: supremedoctrine

Probably referring to Twain’s “angelfish.”


51 posted on 10/03/2009 10:15:17 PM PDT by Poe White Trash (Wake up!)
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To: neverdem

That’s-gonna’-leave-a-mark-BUMP


52 posted on 10/03/2009 10:20:13 PM PDT by 50cal Smokepole (Effective gun control involves effective recoil management)
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To: supremedoctrine

Look here:

http://rbhardy3rd.blogspot.com/2007/09/research-journal-mark-twains-angelfish.html

Not in the least comparable to Polanski’s perversions.


53 posted on 10/03/2009 10:21:06 PM PDT by Poe White Trash (Wake up!)
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To: Poe White Trash

His first guests at the new house were two of the Angelfish, Louise Paine (left) and Dorothy Harvey (right), who arrived on June 20 for a week-long stay that involved chaperoned walks in the woods, billiards lessons, charades, romping with Tammany the cat, and storytelling in the inimitable Mark Twain style. Both girls were thirteen (born in 1895). Louise was the oldest daughter of Twain’s official biographer, Albert Bigelow Paine, who also lived in Redding. Dorothy was the daughter of Twain’s publisher, Col. George Harvey, the president of Harper & Brothers and editor of the North American Review.

For the dirty minded revanchists of the ‘Critical Theory’ school, please note the phrase “chaperoned walks in the woods”.

“Chaperoned” is the rebuttal word which destroys the nasty implication floated against Clements.


54 posted on 10/04/2009 7:44:43 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: GladesGuru

Yah. Clemens had chaperoned walks in the woods with “angelfish” who were the daughters of close associates.

Polanski took photos of topless, anonymous teenyboppers at his swimming pool. And raped that poor girl.

There’s only one pervert here, and its not Clemens.


55 posted on 10/04/2009 7:38:54 PM PDT by Poe White Trash (Wake up!)
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