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On Afghanistan, US military puts Obama on the spot
AFP ^ | 3 Oct 09 | Dan De Luce

Posted on 10/04/2009 9:34:13 AM PDT by SkyPilot

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To: penelopesire

“The White House meanwhile acknowledged some members of Obama’s team have been reading “Lessons in Disaster,” a book about flawed decision-making in the Vietnam war.”

Richard Holbrooke reviewed this book for the NY Times.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/30/books/review/Holbrooke-t.html
The book is centered around McGeorge Bundy (Kennedy and Johnson NSC head). Bundy was reflecting years later on the mistakes he made. Bottom line, “the doves were right”. They should have just thrown Vietnam to the wolves.

Hussein is going to piss away all the sacrifices that the US, British, Canadians etc. have made, and the only criteria will be the politics for him.


41 posted on 10/04/2009 7:21:15 PM PDT by Reverend Wright (Hussein Obama: Senator Vacuous... President Vainglorious)
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To: SkyPilot
The only people “on the spot” are the Soldiers and Marines, including my Nephew BTW, who are on the ground fighting for their Country without the support of the CIC or his Party.

Obama is about as useless as my Dog's feces and he smells twice as bad.

42 posted on 10/04/2009 7:34:14 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Conservatives THINK people are smart. Liberals KNOW people are stupid.)
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To: SkyPilot
The White House meanwhile acknowledged some members of Obama's team have been reading "Lessons in Disaster," a book about flawed decision-making in the Vietnam war.

Oral Reading Circle at the White House.

43 posted on 10/04/2009 8:21:38 PM PDT by taraytarah
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To: mojitojoe

Is that you, Larry?
44 posted on 10/04/2009 8:28:40 PM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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To: penelopesire
“The White House meanwhile acknowledged some members of Obama’s team have been reading “Lessons in Disaster,” a book about flawed decision-making in the Vietnam war.”

Ping to Flyer per our earlier conversations on another thread.

Likely they are reading this book to learn the lessons on how the democrats and the media turned Americans against the Vietnam war by not providing a clear strategy or support for our troops in the field. They want to repeat the process and get out with the ‘backing’ of the American people. They don’t care if they sacrifice our troops in the process. The idea is to get out with ‘political’ cover.

PURE EVIL!

Thanks for the Ping. I've been gone all day but couldn't stop thinking about that other thread connecting the dots. THERE was your Ping when I got back. I am more scared for our troops under this Nimrod than ever! Is "Lessons in Disaster" their new tactical handbook? You're right. PURE EVIL!

One spot of hope, upper ranks are speaking out for our boots on the ground. Obama must be forced away from his childish Olympian type escapades and deal with this.

Your are right. PURE EVIL!

May God protect our Troops.

45 posted on 10/04/2009 8:37:45 PM PDT by 444Flyer ( "Every society honors its live conformists and its dead troublemakers."--Mignon McLaughlin)
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To: Jet Jaguar

“Obama has yet to publish a National Security Strategy as required by Goldwater/Nichols. The US Military is rudderless all over, not just in Afghanistan.”

Thanks for not letting that go. Maybe he thinks NATO and the U.N. will handle it for him?


46 posted on 10/04/2009 8:40:26 PM PDT by 444Flyer ( "Every society honors its live conformists and its dead troublemakers."--Mignon McLaughlin)
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To: All

"Obama, you're doing just a "Super" job!"-M.D.


47 posted on 10/04/2009 8:43:05 PM PDT by 444Flyer ( "Every society honors its live conformists and its dead troublemakers."--Mignon McLaughlin)
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U.S. Marines listen to a briefing before setting out on patrol in Farah province, western Afghanistan. Gen. Stanley A. McChrystal, the top U.S. and allied commander in Afghanistan, warned in a classified assessment that the mission risked failure if more troops were not sent. (David Furst / AFP/Getty Images / September 22, 2009)

48 posted on 10/04/2009 8:44:53 PM PDT by 444Flyer ( "Every society honors its live conformists and its dead troublemakers."--Mignon McLaughlin)
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To: penelopesire; Saoirise; MestaMachine; mojitojoe

Our Troops deserve more than your backside Obama!


49 posted on 10/04/2009 8:50:12 PM PDT by 444Flyer ( "Every society honors its live conformists and its dead troublemakers."--Mignon McLaughlin)
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To: Chgogal

Oh it’s true alright.....go back and look at the MSM stories from right after the election....a push poll here...change the ROE’s..get higher casualty rate...push poll again....see the american people are tired of war...cut and run...

It’s actually pretty damn transparent when you get the eye for such things...

He want the progressive vote for health care....so he’s dragging his feet while our troops die for political gain.


50 posted on 10/04/2009 8:58:03 PM PDT by Crim
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To: 444Flyer
That picture breaks my heart. My God, what have those idiots done by electing this demented, weak, fool?


51 posted on 10/04/2009 9:04:24 PM PDT by mojitojoe (Socialism is just the last “feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery. Lenin)
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To: 444Flyer

52 posted on 10/04/2009 9:06:24 PM PDT by mojitojoe (Socialism is just the last “feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery. Lenin)
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To: mojitojoe
That picture breaks my heart. My God, what have those idiots done by electing this demented, weak, fool?

Me too Joe. Those faces...:(

53 posted on 10/04/2009 9:15:45 PM PDT by 444Flyer ( "Every society honors its live conformists and its dead troublemakers."--Mignon McLaughlin)
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To: Crim
"Oh it’s true alright.....go back and look at the MSM stories from right after the election....a push poll here...change the ROE’s..get higher casualty rate...push poll again....see the american people are tired of war...cut and run... It’s actually pretty damn transparent when you get the eye for such things... He want the progressive vote for health care....so he’s dragging his feet while our troops die for political gain." TRIPLE BUMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!
54 posted on 10/04/2009 9:25:54 PM PDT by drummer10
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To: 444Flyer

I’m so mad right now. DAMN IT, just bring them home, all of them. The looks on their faces in that photo you posted is devastating to me. Bring them home!!! Let them protect our borders. Don’t leave our brave men and women their to be slaughtered. :(


55 posted on 10/04/2009 9:26:24 PM PDT by mojitojoe (Socialism is just the last “feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery. Lenin)
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To: LucyT; Fred Nerks; Jeff Head; rodguy911; Las Vegas Ron; BP2; MHGinTN; STARWISE; pissant; Gemsbok; ..

Picture @ post #48, heartbreaking.


56 posted on 10/04/2009 9:32:27 PM PDT by mojitojoe (Socialism is just the last “feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery. Lenin)
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To: mojitojoe; 444Flyer

I just found this. THIS is something that might be going on in the minds of the idiots in this administration. They would rather deconstruct OUR COUNTRY than be bothered with WINNING A WAR!!!

No Rush to Escalate
By E.J. Dionne Jr.
Monday, October 5, 2009

At a White House dinner with a group of historians at the beginning of the summer, Robert Dallek, a shrewd student of both the Kennedy and Johnson administrations, offered a chilling comment to President Obama.

“In my judgment,” he recalls saying, “war kills off great reform movements.” The American record is pretty clear: World War I brought the Progressive Era to a close. When Franklin D. Roosevelt was waging World War II, he was candid in saying that “Dr. New Deal” had given way to “Dr. Win the War.” Korea ended Harry Truman’s Fair Deal, and Vietnam brought Lyndon Johnson’s Great Society to an abrupt halt.
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“WAR KILLS OFF GREAT REFORM MOVEMENTS.”

OH MY GOD!!!


57 posted on 10/04/2009 9:39:21 PM PDT by MestaMachine (One if by land, 2 if by sea, 3 if by Air Force 1.)
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To: mojitojoe
obama; Hey, hey, hey, how many soldiers have YOU killed today?

Do something!

58 posted on 10/04/2009 9:54:58 PM PDT by Dream Warrior (Never underestimate the POWER of an ARROGANT Marxist President and Congress!)
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To: MestaMachine

We have an evil Marxist in the WH. Look at his friends, look at his czars, look at the people he surrounds himself with. He doesn’t give a shit about this country. In fact he despises it. He loves himself, power and money. I hope our military is watching and keeping Honduras in mind.


59 posted on 10/04/2009 9:57:32 PM PDT by mojitojoe (Socialism is just the last “feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery. Lenin)
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To: MestaMachine

WT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


60 posted on 10/04/2009 9:59:12 PM PDT by 444Flyer ( "Every society honors its live conformists and its dead troublemakers."--Mignon McLaughlin)
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