Breaking-Sen Burr will vote YES on cloture re S. 1776! Call him, 202-224-3154, to vote NO!

[disraeligears]

Just called Burr's office; Sen. Burr intends to vote YES cloture re S. 1776. The bill's passage will help hide the total cost for Obamacare. Yesterday his office stated that would be voting against cloture. This is a big turnaround. Call Sen. Richard Burr (NC) at 202-224-3154 and tell him to vote NO on cloture.

[disraeligears]

Hey.... Dingy Harry!

na na na na
na na na na
hey hey hey
don’t let the screen door hit you on your a....

(but keep calling Burr)

[CutePuppy]

Just a wild guess - as I don't know much about the bill - but is it possible that, tactically, the passage of this bill would make it easier to later filibuster the main Baucus or "joint" bill, i.e. will make it more difficult to pass whatever will come out of Health and Finance committees overall?

With more bills like this attached, it will be easier for others to find something to object to and campaign against it in public, explaining to people the deceitfulness of the bill - too many cooks spoil the soup strategy?

[ncalburt]

just read here on lucianne
from - THE HILL
http://www.lucianne.com/thread/?artnum=500645

[disraeligears]

According to Ace of Spades blogger, cloture vote failed as follows:

“Cloture Fails... by a lot. 47 vote yes on cloture, 53 against. (Former Klansman Robert Byrd returned to the Senate.)

Not even 50 votes for it.”

[batter]

FYI. Just called his office. Burr vote against cloture.

I said thanks. Good job everyone.

[ncalburt]

I guess calling DC non stop does work after all.

Burr voted against cloture .

I talked to aide this morning and he told me that the media had twisted the story and it had nothing to do with Obamacare . i responded that that Burr vote fro cloture won’t look good for his 2010 relection run and he polls are so hot right now .

[ncalburt]

sorry , his polls figures look NOT so hot right now !

[SeattleBruce]

Just a wild guess - as I don’t know much about the bill - but is it possible that, tactically, the passage of this bill would make it easier to later filibuster the main Baucus or “joint” bill, i.e. will make it more difficult to pass whatever will come out of Health and Finance committees overall?
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Too risky! We can no longer afford to play games with these socialists...time to get the whole, stinkin’, rotten mess out into the public square to be beat down as the sick socialist monstrosity it is.

What a great victory today!

http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20091021-713978.html
Under Senate rules, 60 votes are needed to keep the bill from being effectively shelved. All 40 Republicans voted against the motion, along with 13 Democrats...

But moderate Democrats such as Sens. Kent Conrad, D-N.D., and Evan Bayh, D-Ind., said before the vote that they would vote against it because it did not raise any revenue to offset its cost.

Senate Republicans maligned the bill as an irresponsible approach to solving the physician payment issue.

“The proponents of this measure want to put another quarter of a trillion dollars on the federal credit card,” said Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky. “We are in dangerous territory.”

[jerri]

Obama has said he will not approve a bill that is not deficit neutral.

Don't tell me you believe what Zero says. He also said that taxing health benefits was not an option but they are going to do it.

[Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus]

Final vote for cloture: 47 Yea, 53 Nay; Burr was among the Nays.

Looks like the hyperventilators were wrong.

[kabar]

I don’t believe a word he says, but the CBO scoring is what counts in this debate. The Baucus bill relied on these calculations and assumptions, which are now crumbling.

[PhiKapMom]

Thanks for that info!

[dr_who]

I think the hyperventilators were very influential in this case. Some here have said the staffers claimed he was going to vote for cloture. I around lunchtime and was told that Burr hadn’t made up his mind yet. In other words, he changed his position on the bill.

[PhiKapMom]

Looks like Burr should replace the person on the other end of the phone for giving out that information. Burr has never been one to go against the conservatives which is why I couldn’t figure it out. Someone just called his office and reported he will vote against cloture.

Bet that person is not going to be answering phones again.

Thanks for alerting everyone that the young man was still saying he was going to support closure.

[SeattleBruce]

Final vote for cloture: 47 Yea, 53 Nay; Burr was among the Nays.

Looks like the hyperventilators were wrong.
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Except he and his staff were saying he wasn’t taking a public position on it (yet), which leads me to think that some of these people would have passed this, if we weren’t watching.

That’s the crazy part.

We’ve got to watch not only the demonRATs but the pubbies like hawks...

It’s like a freakin’ second job.

What happened to representing us, and serving this country?

Ugg...I so wish we had term limits...I so wish the USC had limited Senators to 2 terms...so they couldn’t accrue untoward power..

[SeattleBruce]

Don't tell me you believe what Zero says. He also said that taxing health benefits was not an option but they are going to do it.
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He'll say anything to one group, and then turn around and say something else to another group, even if it contradicts what he said a year or two earlier. And he'll do it with a straight face.

Most of the Democrats are LYING LIARS. And worst of all, they have Machiavellian justification for lying to our faces - as they think they know what's best for us, better than we do. Then, when we catch them in their lying, the scream some crap about 'racism' or that we're a mob, or we're nazis...sick people these 'leaders' of the DemonRAT party. Bammy is a fine representative of the Democrat (career politicians) lying machine.

This is what we're dealing with. Very difficult when you're used to dealing with people that have some honor in their bones, and some days it's downright depressing. So we fight on for the truth.

[jerri]

Very difficult when you're used to dealing with people that have some honor in their bones, and some days it's downright depressing.

It makes it harder when they don't have any common sense either.

[txrangerette]

U.S. Senate: Legislation & Records Home > Votes > Roll Call Vote

http://senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=111&session=1&vote=00325

Here are the Dems voting nay:

Bayh, Byrd, Conrad, Dorgan, Feingold, Kohl, Lieberman, McCaskill, Nelson of FL, Tester, Warner, Webb, Wyden

OK.

There’s some oddities in who voted yea and nay.

This list of nays did not include several so-called Bluedogs that we know, for instance, have resisted the public option or other aspects of this reform, and I wonder why.

Lincoln, Nelson of NE and Landrieu voted yea. These are votes we have hoped to get against this whole thing. Dick Morris has specifically mentioned them as possibly gettable. Yet, they were ok with this trick

OTOH, We got Feingold, McCaskill and Nelson of FL, who are libs and are for big government healthcare. Other odd nays were Warner, Webb and Wyden.

There may be some obscure games being played here. Who knows what is going on. Am I glad this failed? Absolutely.

But it’s hard to have predicted some of these votes, based on the landscape as it might have appeared...

[SeattleBruce]

It makes it harder when they don’t have any common sense either.
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Right. Try talking basic macro-econ with any liberal...deer in the headlights...most of them are CLUELESS when it comes to reality like that. Oh, but they *know* how to make people feel guilty about their *racism.*

[SeattleBruce]

But it’s hard to have predicted some of these votes, based on the landscape as it might have appeared...
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Good analysis. And we can only hope and pray that Obamacare goes down in similar flames, and we’re left to not know exactly how!