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US govt seeks new way to seize companies
Nine News ^ | October 26, 2009

Posted on 10/26/2009 3:56:10 AM PDT by myknowledge

Legislation to be introduced in Congress will make it easier for the US government to seize control of troubled financial institutions that are considered too big to be allowed to fail, The New York Times says.

The bill will be introduced in Congress by a key ally of President Barack Obama - Representative Barney Frank - who chairs the House Financial Services Committee, the Times said, citing a senior administration official.

The legislation would make it easier for the government to throw out the financial company's management, wipe out the shareholders and change the terms of existing loans held by the institution, the report said.

Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner was planning to endorse the changes in testimony before the House Financial Services Committee on Thursday, the paper noted.

The White House plan, as outlined so far, would make the existence of a large financial company whose failure would put the US financial system and the economy at risk much costlier, the report said.

It would force such institutions to hold more money in reserve and make it harder for them to borrow too heavily against their assets, The Times said.

Setting up the equivalent of living wills for corporations, the plan would also require that companies come up with their own procedure to be disentangled in the event of a crisis, the paper said.

This plan, according to administration officials, ought to be made public in advance, said The Times.

"These changes will impose market discipline on the largest and most interconnected companies," the paper quotes Michael Barr, assistant treasury secretary for financial institutions, as saying.

One of the biggest changes the plan would make, he said, is that instead of being controlled by creditors, the process will be controlled by the government.

Some regulators and economists in recent weeks have suggested that the administration's plan does not go far enough, The Times noted. They say that the government should consider breaking up the biggest banks and investment firms long before they fail, or at least impose strict limits on their trading activities - steps that the administration continues to reject.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 111th; agenda; bhocompanies; bhofascism; bhotyranny; communism; companyseizure; cwii; democrats; donttreadonme; economy; fascism; liberalfascism; lping; marxism; toobigtofail; tyranny; unconstitutional

Company seizure? That's FASCISM!


1 posted on 10/26/2009 3:56:10 AM PDT by myknowledge
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To: myknowledge

Sieg Heil!


2 posted on 10/26/2009 4:10:08 AM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: myknowledge
The bill will be introduced in Congress by a key ally of President Barack Obama - Representative Barney Frank - who chairs the House Financial Services Committee...

Just say "Banking Queen"...

3 posted on 10/26/2009 4:11:50 AM PDT by LRS (Just contracts; just laws; just a constitution...)
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To: myknowledge

The ultimate goal is for the government to have control of all of the means of production. See the communist manifesto.


4 posted on 10/26/2009 4:15:35 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: myknowledge
If you don't grease the polit bureau, they simply take what they want.
5 posted on 10/26/2009 4:18:30 AM PDT by allmost
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To: myknowledge

This is socialism. This is far, far worse.


6 posted on 10/26/2009 4:19:55 AM PDT by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: autumnraine

Ooops, I meant this is NOT socialism.


7 posted on 10/26/2009 4:20:27 AM PDT by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: myknowledge

We,the People, are getting the change so many wanted.


8 posted on 10/26/2009 4:23:33 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: autumnraine

Smiley Faced Facism?

As Scooby would say: whrut-whrow


9 posted on 10/26/2009 4:28:11 AM PDT by Rearden (Deo Vindice)
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged

No.

The ultimate goal is for the corporations to retain the means of production but the decision-making rests in the hands of the government. In other words, fusion of corporation and state. This is Fascism.

Unlike communism, fascism was a very successful economic model besides capitalism. It worked successfully under Hitler's Nazi Germany, Mussolini's Fascist Italy, and to this day, under Japan since WWII.

So I figure fascism would work successfully under Obama's America.

Anyway, fascism will be the new world order's political and economic model.

10 posted on 10/26/2009 4:37:09 AM PDT by myknowledge (F-22 Raptor: World's Largest Distributor of Sukhoi parts!)
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To: autumnraine
This is Fascism.
11 posted on 10/26/2009 4:38:01 AM PDT by myknowledge (F-22 Raptor: World's Largest Distributor of Sukhoi parts!)
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To: myknowledge
... hold more money in reserve and make it harder for them to borrow too heavily against their assets

The result is less money supply, higher interest rates, lower economic activity and fewer loans to less credit-worthy borrowers (e.g., minorities). How would Bwaney square this circle?

12 posted on 10/26/2009 4:49:11 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: myknowledge

This is fascism. Fascism is a means of organizing an economy where the government allows private ownership of the means of production while the government suspends the rule of law and forces corporations to bend to the government’s whims.

Japan is officially a dirigiste economy, not that different from the rest of the developed world. Dirigiste economies regularly divert resources away from rational use and to that which the government favors through subsidies, regulations, cronyism, etc. A dirigiste economy can be described as fascism light as there remains a semblance of the rule of law.


13 posted on 10/26/2009 4:50:57 AM PDT by sako shooter (cib&eib)
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To: myknowledge

Given the short run that both Fascist Italy and Germany had, I think it’s hard to say fascism was a “successful economic model.”

Spain under Franco had something similar, and while there was a brief period after the Spanish Civil War during which it stabilized Spanish economic life, it was not at all successful after that. Spanish economic life was bogged down by vertical unions, cronyism (an inevitable feature of fascism) and protectionism. It was made worse by the fact that the desire of US leftists (through Democrats in Congress) to punish Spain for not having fallen to the Communists during its Civil War meant that the US was very stingy with its economic aid after WWII. In response, Spain adopted autarchy, which meant that most everything it used had to be produced within its own borders.

Facism undermines the entire rationale of capitalism and its own control systems, so while it may run briefly on the left-overs of the capitalism it has invaded and taken over, I don’t think you could point to a successful long-term fascist country.


14 posted on 10/26/2009 5:35:30 AM PDT by livius
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To: myknowledge
Legislation to be introduced in Congress will make it easier for the US government to seize control of troubled financial institutions that are considered too big to be allowed to fail...

Wrong answer. If a company is "too big to fail", but it's losing money, let it die. It will be replaced by a number of smaller, better run companies, none of which will be too big to fail or in danger of failing. Why meddle when Adam Smith's invisible hand will solve the problem perfectly?

15 posted on 10/26/2009 8:40:04 AM PDT by TurtleUp ([...Insert today's quote from Community-Organizer-in-Chief...] - Obama, YOU LIE!)
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