Gardasil Vaccine Researcher Drops Bombshell

The Philadelpia Bulletin ^ | 10-25-09 | Susan Brinkmann

[Bokababe]

"So many smokers don't want to be smokers, but it's just too hard to quit. I was told when I was quite young that my lungs had dark spots on them and emphysema was in my future. I was a bit freaked out, but it STILL took me seven years to quit. Just an insidious curse of an addiction."

Usually, it takes something that scares you into quitting -- a health scare (like a spot on your lungs)or a bout of flu that hits your lungs, a family member or friend dying of lung cancer -- something that's a big buzzer wake-up call. Because without that scaring you out of complacency, quitting smoking really is too hard to do.

But in all honesty, this e-cig was the easiest thing. It's the first time in my life that I have really believed that quitting smoking is possible for me, even if I haven't completely done it yet. Before this, all the private conversations between me & me, was that quitting smoking was never really going to happen for me on my own.

I'll pass along the e-cig info to anyone I know that still smokes. The things you learn on FreeRepublic.:)

Yes, I'll always be grateful to Randall Flagg and the other Freepers who pointed me in the right direction on this!

[Beloved Levinite]

I’m with you Jenny. The thugs at the TOP of this Eugenics conspiracy are satanic. They need to be taken down, somehow, someway.

[Beloved Levinite]

It’s simple. Some very rich & evil people have an evil hidden agenda & they found a very devious, ingenious way of administering their evil Eugenics plan via FEAR & poison vaccines.

[hocndoc]

A special exemption from what? Which news reports?

The informed consent forms from the CDC and the information for doctors and pharmacists are much more reliable than news reports.

[hocndoc]

(I joke that the first 6 weeks of med school was learning to say 6 syllable words and that when it comes to pronouncing those fancy words, who ever says them loudest in right. I don’t feel really challenged until I have to diagram the sentence to understand it.)

I think that there are bad things that happen a certain number of times in the general population. When two events happen close together in time or place, we tend to think one is caused by the other or that they’re connected. But they aren’t always connected. They’re sometimes coincidences, especially when you are turning the microscope on a fairly similar group, like adolescent girls.

Of course, statistics don’t mean a thing when those bad things happen to us or to someone we care about, or when we’re anxious enough to start focusing that microscope in the first place.

[mlizzy]

(I joke that the first 6 weeks of med school was learning to say 6 syllable words and that when it comes to pronouncing those fancy words, who ever says them loudest in right. I don’t feel really challenged until I have to diagram the sentence to understand it.)

I think that there are bad things that happen a certain number of times in the general population ...

Thanks for responding. In the following paragraph from the NVIC site, they state "bad things" numbers in what I would deem more than (the vague) "a certain number of times." Either their information is all "woo," or the Gardasil shot needs to be looked into as to its efficiency. Yes, your 6-syllable word link that you originally sent was well advanced. Simplifying speech (while trying not to condescend) seems a positive, because everyone needs help from time to time regardless of their education. Here's that paragraph:

"In the third article, written by government health officials, it was revealed that 1 in every 1,855 Gardasil shots is followed by a bad health outcome report to the government’s Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System. These bad health outcomes reported after Gardasil shots include lots of girls suddenly passing out and having seizures within minutes or hours of getting vaccinated and suffering head injuries and broken bones when they hit the floor. In fact, there is a larger than expected rate of girls passing out after getting Gardasil vaccine" --from NVIC, Gardasil & Swine Flu Vaccines: Inconvenient Truths.

While "lots of girls" is vague as well, I'm not convinced this immunization is worth the reported/documented side effects.

[hocndoc]

I’ve posted a table showing reported adverse events on my blog, here http://www.lifeethics.org/www.lifeethics.org/2009/10/hpv-vaccine-adverse-reports-prep-for.html from the JAMA August 2009 report on risks and benefits of the vaccine, here, http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/full/302/7/750 (Freepmail me if you can’t access and I’ll send the pdf)JAMA. 2009;302(7):750-757 www.jama

Most of the problem was with fainting and with clotting problems, but almost all of those last had other reasons identified or proved unreliable.

Anything that has an effect will have side effects. People get nauseous, throw up and faint when we draw blood, much less when we give them shots.

Teens faint more than almost any other group, in my experience. It’s a lot less likely and a lot easier to talk a 4 year old into a shot than a 12 year old - the older child has to try to control himself/herself, while the younger can scream and holler and keep her blood pressure up.

The vasovagal or fainting reaction looks like a seizure, but it’s not a true seizure, with brainwave changes, etc.

A lot of girls, 25% or more of 11 and 12 year olds, are getting this shot. That’s why there are a lot of fainting episodes and other, more serious side effects.

[<1/1,000,000th%]

That’s nothing.

Flu shots have no affect on whether you’ll get the flu or not.

At least this vaccine works a little bit.

[awin]

This summer it seemed no matter what physician my 19 yo daughter went to they PUSHED the vaccine “sale” on her. Luckily I, a nurse and her father, a physician prepped her to feel comfortable saying “I'm still thinking about it”. My physician husband said if she flat out said no they would try their sales pitch again (her pediatrician still sees her her and is my husbands long time friend and his office was majorly pushing it!) The arguments given by the researchers are exactly my arguments! These vaccines are being produced for third world countries but being marketed here b/c we are the only country that will pay/afford them. Also here most females get regular pap smears that assist in early detection where other countries not so much. All my friends have had their daughters take this vaccine and many w/o even researching it themselves. Please everyone be careful to check things out ESPECIALLY if you are not in the medical field.

[aNYCguy]

So it apears that Perry did mandate it therefore it did not get fully tested.

Nothing in your MSNBC article even remotely implies that Gardasil was somehow "not fully tested." Gardasil was approved by the FDA in 2006. This Perry brouhaha happened in September 2008. Stop making wild-eyed accusations, please.

[guitarplayer1953]

http://clareswinney.wordpress.com/gardasil-the-evidence/

[guitarplayer1953]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16948093/from/RS.4/

updated 12:00 p.m. CT, Sat., Feb. 3, 2007 AUSTIN, Texas - Bypassing the Legislature altogether, Republican Gov. Rick Perry issued an order Friday making Texas the first state to require that schoolgirls get vaccinated against the sexually transmitted virus that causes cervical cancer.

It would help if you did some research before making wild-eyed accusations, please.

[aNYCguy]

I've read that article. Apparently, you believe that the fact that Texas' governer issued an executive order to make Gardasil vaccinations mandatory implies that the vaccine "did not get fully tested."

Let me sort things out for you: The Texas legislature is a lawmaking body. The FDA is a government organization which tests drugs for safety and efficacy. The Texas legislature is not the FDA. Perry was the governor of Texas. Gardasil is a vaccine. Perry is not Gardasil. Thus, even if Perry "bypassed the legislature," that does not imply that Gardasil "bypassed the FDA. Do you understand?

With that in mind, do you still believe that your MSNBC quote implies that Gardasil "did not get fully tested?"

[aNYCguy]

When I’m educating myself on a subject, I don’t rely on the blog of crazy people. I suggest you do the same.

[guitarplayer1953]

SO MSNBC IS CRAZY?

[guitarplayer1953]

It was released in June of 2006 for testing and Perry made it mandatory in Feb of 2007 going into effect in 2008 hardly time to even begin testing of what 8 months? Maybe your Governor will mandate all males to be castrated too.

[aNYCguy]

SO MSNBC IS CRAZY?

Reading comprehension, chief. Look into it.

[aNYCguy]

It was released in June of 2006 for testing

Hey, thanks for finally making it clear what you don't understand. You think that Gardasil was released "for testing" in June 2006. That's not only wrong, but it's not how any drug-approval process works.

June 2006 is when the FDA approved the drug for sale because it had already been tested and found to be safe and effective.

Apparently, you were under the impression that a drug maker can somehow "release a drug for testing" in such a way that it can be sold in this country even though it hasn't been shown to be safe by the FDA. That's not even remotely how it works. If Gardasil hadn't already been tested safe and effective by the FDA (That's a federal agency, you know), it wouldn't have mattered if Perry had ordered that every single man, woman, and child in Texas get vaccinated three times with Gardasil, because it would have been federally illegal for any hospital in Texas to buy it, much less administer it.

I realize it's a little optimistic for me to think that you'll even comprehend this post, but try for me.