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Election 2009: Change We Can Believe In (Vanity)
self | November 5, 2009 | Jim Davis

Posted on 11/05/2009 5:20:08 AM PST by Philo1962

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1 posted on 11/05/2009 5:20:09 AM PST by Philo1962
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To: Philo1962

Unless we are prepared to look every RNC donor in the eye and tell them about this treachary, WHY should the RNC care?


2 posted on 11/05/2009 5:30:52 AM PST by ROTB ("By any means necessary" is evil. See what God thinks of "rising oceans" in Jeremiah 5:22)
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To: ROTB

When the RNC calls asking for donations, cite NY-23 and tell them they aren’t getting a dime until they put their whole weight behind conservative candidates. Money talks louder than words.


3 posted on 11/05/2009 5:43:47 AM PST by randita (Chains you can bereave in.)
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To: Philo1962

You did as much as you could and Dede betrayed a lot of people, including her own staffers. Clearly, it was out of revenge (”hell hath no fury like that of a woman scorned”). Her career as a Republican is thankfully over.

That whole race was a debacle and showed how out of touch the country club GOP dealmakers are from the folks on the ground. They bear the bulk of culpability for losing this seat.


4 posted on 11/05/2009 5:48:38 AM PST by randita (Chains you can bereave in.)
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To: Philo1962

It calls into question the idea that conservatives can bring in an outsider to win (from my understanding.) Also all the media hype about conservatives supporting Hoffman may have been a turnoff for that area.

On the bright side the seat is up in only a year and republicans are almost sure to pick it up then.


5 posted on 11/05/2009 5:51:19 AM PST by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the government spending you demand stupid")
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To: sickoflibs

I can’t stress this enough. The Republican Party is our party. The conservatives’ party. We need to take it back. This is the year to do it. The third party idea only gets more Democrats elected. They love it.

We need to constantly repeat a very narrowly focused message: keep taxes low, reduce the deficit, balance the budget, stay strong on national defense, and respect the right to keep and bear arms.

I really don’t want to hear about anything else except electing conservatives. Stay out of the other details. It only gets us into unproductive fights. Even the moderates will support a narrow platform like that. Once we take back the House, we can start talking about immigration. Once we take back the Senate and the White House, we can talk about issues like the right to life, and the defense of marriage.


6 posted on 11/05/2009 6:55:27 AM PST by Philo1962 (Iraq is terrorist flypaper. They go there to die.)
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To: Philo1962; rabscuttle
RE :”I can’t stress this enough. The Republican Party is our party. The conservatives’ party. We need to take it back. This is the year to do it. The third party idea only gets more Democrats elected. They love it. We need to constantly repeat a very narrowly focused message: keep taxes low, reduce the deficit, balance the budget, stay strong on national defense, and respect the right to keep and bear arms.

You have not taken it back yet. I don't feel like Republican Party is my party unlike 1993 Clinton's first year. I also see that many ‘conservatives’ have not learned all the lessons of the past. There are many Bush defenders here. Bush, McCain... that kills it for me.

7 posted on 11/05/2009 7:20:18 AM PST by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the government spending you demand stupid")
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To: sickoflibs

Watch what happens in the next 12 months. This is our party and we’re taking it back. We’d appreciate your help.


8 posted on 11/05/2009 7:33:14 AM PST by Philo1962 (Iraq is terrorist flypaper. They go there to die.)
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To: Grampa Dave; potlatch; devolve; sirchtruth
Hey you! You out there? This is a great photo of Obama with Corzine. Somebody needs to build a mural around it, with that quotation in blue from the top of the thread.


9 posted on 11/05/2009 7:38:55 AM PST by Philo1962 (Iraq is terrorist flypaper. They go there to die.)
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To: All

Some of you guys don’t even know who I am. In 2004, I was working for the Jack Ryan for Senate campaign. If we had won that one, Obama would still be an obscure state senator in Springfield, Illinois.

Last year, I was working as a freelance writer for Newsmax. Around St. Patrick’s Day, an old article that I had written came to the attention of ABC News. I had reported about Obama attending the hate-filled, race-baiting church of Jeremiah Wright. Before ABC News brought my article to the attention of the whole nation, Obama had won several primaries in a row and seemed unstoppable. But after ABC News started talking about it, it went viral and Obama lost six of the next eight primaries, some by huge margins.

If my article had come to the attention of the nation just two weeks earlier, we wouldn’t even be talking about a President Obama. We’d be talking about a President Someone Else. For a very long time, I’ve been ahead of the curve on where the Republican Party is going, and where it needs to go.

Please join me and the rest of the Tea Party movement. We need all the help we can get.


10 posted on 11/05/2009 7:44:45 AM PST by Philo1962 (Iraq is terrorist flypaper. They go there to die.)
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To: Philo1962
RE :”Watch what happens in the next 12 months. This is our party and we’re taking it back. We’d appreciate your help.”

Good! It's definitely what the party needs. Third party is a last action of desperation . In the NY case too I think things worked out for conservatives. It's just we have to learn lessons.

11 posted on 11/05/2009 8:06:56 AM PST by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the government spending you demand stupid")
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To: Philo1962
Election 2009/10: Change We Can Believe In!!

Corzine, enjoy your change in 2010!

Adios to left wingers in 2010!

12 posted on 11/05/2009 10:03:00 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Does 0b0z0 have any friends, who aren't traitors, spies, tax cheats and criminals?)
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To: sickoflibs

The victories in Jersey & VA show that the Dem playbook of blaming Bush for everyhting doesn’t work anymore. Instead, the new Dem playbook shall be “The Taliban Tea Baggers have declare a Jihad against reasonable thinking moderates just like in the NY-23.”


13 posted on 11/05/2009 10:39:22 AM PST by yongin
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To: yongin

Lets hope so.


14 posted on 11/05/2009 10:45:40 AM PST by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the government spending you demand stupid")
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To: Grampa Dave

"This election was not about Obama.
Obama still has all of his mojo.
You people are wrong. New Jersey
and Virginia mean nothing."

15 posted on 11/05/2009 12:30:30 PM PST by Philo1962 (Iraq is terrorist flypaper. They go there to die.)
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To: Philo1962

I appreciate you unveiling your legacy. I also appreciate you might appear to be conservative and an ardent pusher of conservative causes, however if you think for one second you’re going to get away with telling us John McCain is conservative, and not a disloyal prick to conservative republicans you’re exposing a MAJOR flaw in your tout!


16 posted on 11/05/2009 3:13:41 PM PST by sirchtruth (Gravity Of The Situation...)
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To: Philo1962; republican; rboatman; tame; Alamo-Girl; zappo; backhoe; goseminoles; Balding_Eagle; ...

Ping. If you want off my ping list or if you want to join our group, send me a freepmail.


17 posted on 11/05/2009 6:10:50 PM PST by Philo1962 (Iraq is terrorist flypaper. They go there to die.)
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To: Philo1962

Thanks Phil. BTTT


18 posted on 11/05/2009 6:58:48 PM PST by goseminoles
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To: Philo1962

I agree. Just look at the history of third parties....Dems love it. I’m with you.


19 posted on 11/05/2009 7:07:09 PM PST by Fu-fu2
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To: Grampa Dave

Corzine!

Out of office!

Being seriously talked up as the next CEO of our taxpayer owned Bank of America. All based on his prior street cred!

Talk about pigs wallowing in slops!

OOink! My nose is clean!!


20 posted on 11/05/2009 8:11:44 PM PST by aShepard
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