Posted on 11/26/2009 9:55:25 PM PST by Jim Robinson
Apparently there are still some posters on FR who are fast asleep. Wake up! Dammit! We are in the middle of a conservative rebellion! While you were sleeping we, along with millions of other freedom loving grassroots Americans have participated in hundreds of tea parties all across this great land and fully intend to keep it up until all of America is awake. We are fed up and mad as hell! We grassroots Americans are delivering a message to the ruling class: NO MORE!!
No more big government! No more high taxes! No more government bailouts! No more government takeovers! No government healthcare! No more corruption! No more global baloneyism!!
We're sick and tired of liberals and RINOs running roughshod over our God given Liberty!
We want our country back! We want our freedom back! We want it all back!!
No more socialism!!
Cut the taxes! Cut the spending! Cut the government!
Restore the constitutional limits on government! Restore our freedom!!
And not only no, but HELL NO to liberals and RINOS!!
Free Republic will not support RINOS!! Rudy McRomney, et al, can go straight to hell!!
The strategy is we win, they lose.
Any questions?
The question is what are you willing to put up with in a candidate? Only you can answer that.
Wish I could have followed this thread...can’t believe there is any question or debate about this topic.
I have sat here for some weeks now reading your posts and trying to figure out how you, after all these years still reach the party-line conclusions. In fact my post on this very thread was a direct reference to you. Perhaps you've always lived in GOP strongholds or have never had a RINOs performance directly affect your family, your Rights. You have been on FR a very, very long time. Trolls and shills don't last long around here, so I figure your intents are honest.
So here is what I have to say to you. Pick it apart all you want, I'll not be responding to you ever again. I come from a place that is a state full of RINOs. My republican senator is less responsive than my democrat house representative, Kucinich. There is little I care for about either one.
Here is what I know from where I stand, since 1980 I have voted Republican even in the last election when I didn't have a voice in the nominee. The whole “big tent” idea lost an election. I want to repeat that, the whole big tent idea lost the election. Millions of conservatives turned out to vote, we held our nose and pulled the lever for McCain...even though we knew it was because of Palin we were even bothering to vote.
The big tent idea for me means big government. You, I, nor any one party can have a big tent without violating the Constitution. The GOP doesn't need to win the middle, they lost because they lost the appeasement vote. WE voted and they still lost, not because of us but because the big tent collapsed. McCain couldn't lead, all he did was offer appeasements and we still lost.
Thomas Paine has a special name for moderates, evil. I have slowly over the last decade come to agree with that view. RINO’s are what has made the GOP lose its way. The lurch to the left hasn't been just the democrats, the republicans too have moved very far left. If they had stood by their principles we may have lost a few, but we would be winning the war right now. Leaders should lead, not appease.
Conservative have chosen to no longer appease the corrupted GOP. They are corrupted right now like a bad computer chip. The question is if we can get rid of the RINO virus. We stopped sending money, we stopped campaigning for them, we even stopped voting and yet...RINOs and Democrats win on appeasement, not leadership.
Your ongoing denial of the failings of the GOP is a puzzle to me. Appeasement isn't going to save this nation, it is destroying it and the GOP is as much at fault as the democrats.
On my local level, it was conservatives and tea party folks who finally overturned the structure of county government in the last election. Not the GOP, they came along for the ride.
Jan. we're holding our first 8hr. Freedom Seminar...the GOP?
Things are moving and changing. Does it mean a third party will emerge? Third parties never win. Funny, that's what they said about the GOP some many years ago, when in one election cycle they won the heart of a nation. At that time the issue was slavery and the only difference now is who the master will be.
See my tagline. It is our Right as promised to us in the Declaration of Independence.
Run them out! For example, RINOs Olympia Snowe, Jim Jeffords, Susan Collins, Arlin Specter, John McCain, Lindsay Graham, et al, have done us little good and have caused us more grief and suffering in the long run than they’re worth. Vote ‘em out!
Let's see, conservatives are called "totalitarian" for wanting to keep FR a conservative forum and accused of being lackeys of George Soros for wanting to save the GOP from RINOs and YOU want to keep such trolls around. Quite telling.
You don’t get it.
A 100% Liberal Democrat is better than an 80% Conservative Republican.
The key is 100%. Who ever is the 100% Liberal or Conservative gets the vote. None of that 80% stuff.
Which still begs the question. You posited, “You consider RINOs a bigger threat than Dimocrats and I think you’re nuts!!!”
I pointed out to you the horrific danger of doing exactly what you said, which put us in the position we are in now, and suddenly we are back to either, or.
It’s like a puppy chasing its tail.
No wonder this Country is such a big mess. You would rather argue about your "team" then discuss solutions? Really?
It's not about who is best for a political party...it has come down to who has the cojones to stand up to the FEDGOV! Does your State have them? Does your County - your City? Do YOU have any balls left to fight other than hang around with a sign? That's the easy part (did that; done that). Don't you just feel so good when you go home? I know I did, until I discovered it made NO difference.
A wise man once told me, to parapharase, "...all politics are local." He also told me, "Trying to organize Conservatives is like herding cats".
I'm going to tell you one more time, and yes, I'm lecturing... Here is the last and best hope to restore our REPUBLIC...
Thank you! Sorry you were whacked re: Rudy. I would take him any day over McCain, who I have always found an unpleasant as well as uninformed candidate. But he does have his warts.
I think I shall end with one final thought, which echoes what you wrote. People sometimes say and write things that aren’t quite right. To the true blue conservatives who post here, please be patient. I know from experience that those who are patient with me have a great impact on the way I think, and I find that they are patient because they have great confidence in their views and feel like they can set me straight.
There are millions of newbies who are likely converts to conservatism. I also think there are millions of people who have historically called themselves Democrats who are waking up, tens of thousands of them each day, to the present danger.
I believe this is the time to win converts rather than batten down the hatches.
My advice would be to welcome these folks even when they post something you don’t quite like, or that objectively runs counter to the facts or to conservative principles.
I believe that FR has more potential than any other site, in part because it has the greatest number of truly compassionate and committed conservatives. I also recognize the tradeoff of remaining dedicated to this passionate core versus reaching out to others. As I’ve written, it’s Jim Robinson’s choice. It’s just that I dissent from the tactic he’s presently taking.
I’ll now let this rest. I apologize for any disruption.
Boy, was YOU wrong. This is like a day with Barnum and Bailey only the clowns ain’t wearing makeup.
WHEN do we vote them out? In the primaries or in the general elections? That is the question. I say primaries. I’m not sure if others on here are saying the primaries or any chance they get, even by allowing RATS to win the elections.
Just vote them out!! Out means O-U-T OUT!
Your solution is fine if we had the time for it, but there is no time left. We are in it now.
Issue 6 Passes Easily - Big Changes Ahead For Cuyahoga County Government
Cuyahoga County voted overwhelmingly Tuesday to throw out its current form of government and adopt a new structure; the measure passed 66% to 34%. A competing ballot issue to delay county reform for at least a year was rejected by 72% of the county’s voters.
Again, you're alleging something I've never said or even believe. Let me put this in very simple terms. I don't like RINOs any better than anyone else. I believe we use the primary process to always try to improve the quality of our party. That is where we must do it.
AFTER the primary is over, we all vote Republican because the RAT alternative is so much worse.
I have never claimed the GOP does not have failings. Of couse, we're all human. You know what, if you were an elected official, you would never please everyone all the time, either and I bet when you would leave office, you would look back and have regrets about some of your votes.
It is unrealistic to expect perfection here on earth.
Even Reagan did some non conservative stuff but the majority of his actions were conservative and may be if we read his history it is very likely that we will find out that he campaigned and backed Republicans who were considered RINOS and were elected or ran in parts of the country that were not conservative.
You see we had this discussion this week and you have missed the boat.
TRUE conservatives are done with the RINOS.
It is a war for our nation.
It is ALL or Nothing.
What side are you going to serve ?
nail on head
It amazes me how some will say that
Rudy , Huck etc are alright.
I’ve hard one say she has no problem with homosexuals because she knows on in her church.
Time to wake up, I left a socialist country with Govt health care and I will be damned if I stand around and see this great adopted country go the same way.
Keep up the good work Jim and everyone else pushing against the left’s agenda and THE RINO’S
Are you alleging we should vote Dimocrat?
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