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Russia 'will' deliver S-300 to Iran in 2 months
tv-press ^ | 11/27/09 | tv-press

Posted on 11/27/2009 7:27:20 PM PST by Flavius

Russia has ensured that it will honor a deal providing Iran with the S-300 sophisticated anti-aircraft system, Tehran's envoy to Moscow says.

(Excerpt) Read more at presstv.ir ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: airdefense; bho44; iran; islam; israel; military; obama; russia; s300; sam

1 posted on 11/27/2009 7:27:21 PM PST by Flavius
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To: Flavius

Didn’t Iraq and Syria have Russian air defense systems?


2 posted on 11/27/2009 7:31:05 PM PST by Go Gordon
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To: nuconvert

ping


3 posted on 11/27/2009 7:31:19 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (Liberal sacred cows make great hamburger)
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To: Flavius

Q: With Obama in office, does Iran really need this missile system...??


4 posted on 11/27/2009 7:35:19 PM PST by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts....)
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To: Flavius

From Russia with Love.


5 posted on 11/27/2009 7:40:57 PM PST by blackminorca
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To: Bean Counter

i have no idea but a shot is fired across that straight and oil is at 300

with depression now with oil north of $ 10.00 per gallon

those silkworms are sufficient for all tanker traffic and Iran will light up the sky

none of this is any good


6 posted on 11/27/2009 7:41:20 PM PST by Flavius
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To: Flavius

Well alrighty then! Israel should send the Russians a big thank you bouquet and go ahead and take out those pesky nuclear facilities before these are installed!


7 posted on 11/27/2009 7:51:20 PM PST by JDoutrider
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To: Go Gordon

Back in 2006, Syria had S-300 systems to defend their airspace. The Israelis spoofed them successfully and destroyed the reactor site that had been built in NE Syria. The Russians have improved their software since then - that was a real nasty surprise.


8 posted on 11/27/2009 7:57:08 PM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: FARS; SJackson; AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ..
Ping!
9 posted on 11/27/2009 8:36:31 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Flavius
Almaz S-300P/PT/PS/PMU/PMU1/PMU2 Almaz-Antey S-400 Triumf SA-10/20/21 Grumble/Gargoyle

Bookmark the Air Power Australia homepage on your browser.

10 posted on 11/27/2009 9:04:18 PM PST by myknowledge (F-22 Raptor: World's Largest Distributor of Sukhoi parts!)
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To: Bean Counter

They still do, to keep Israeli fighters away from their nuke facilities.


11 posted on 11/27/2009 9:05:14 PM PST by myknowledge (F-22 Raptor: World's Largest Distributor of Sukhoi parts!)
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To: 17th Miss Regt

No, they didn’t. At the time the only modern SAMs (Pantsir-S1) in the Syrian inventory were short-range SAMs.


12 posted on 11/27/2009 9:11:48 PM PST by Constantine XI Palaeologus ("Vicisti, Galilaee")
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To: Constantine XI Palaeologus

Yep. A little research shows that you are correct. And the strike occurred in 2007, not 2006. Faulty memory on my part.


13 posted on 11/27/2009 9:45:43 PM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Go Gordon

“Didn’t Iraq and Syria have Russian air defense systems?”

Yes, but I don’t think the S-300...


14 posted on 11/27/2009 10:10:13 PM PST by babygene
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To: Flavius

“none of this is any good”

Doesn’t matter... It’ll be over in days, before the current contracts even notice it, it will be down again.


15 posted on 11/27/2009 10:16:33 PM PST by babygene
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To: Flavius

Looking into this the S-300 components seem to have been around for quite some time. Why would the Israelis have a problem with it?


16 posted on 11/27/2009 11:10:28 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Keep your dog. Get rid of a Liberal.)
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To: Go Gordon

Syria does but it was defeated by the Suter when the Israelis attacked their reactor.Suter is a military computer program developed by BAE Systems that attacks computer networks and communications systems belonging to an enemy


17 posted on 11/27/2009 11:23:09 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("We will either find a way, or make one."Hannibal/Carthaginian Military Commander)
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To: VeniVidiVici

http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/blogs/defense/index.jsp?plckController=Blog&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest&plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&plckPostId=Blog%3a27ec4a53-dcc8-42d0-bd3a-01329aef79a7Post%3a2710d024-5eda-416c-b117-ae6d649146cd


18 posted on 11/27/2009 11:25:29 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("We will either find a way, or make one."Hannibal/Carthaginian Military Commander)
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To: Flavius

Russian S-300 missile systems, also known affectionately as "targets."

19 posted on 11/27/2009 11:35:13 PM PST by EternalVigilance ("No person shall be deprived of life without due process of law." - The U.S. Constitution (TWICE))
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To: jhpigott
http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0geurYz0BBL3tYANihXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEzb204czlyBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMQRjb2xvA2FjMgR2dGlkA1FSVzFfMTEx/SIG=11v5p8hi6/EXP=1259479475/**http%3a//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SA-10A_Grumble ~~~ I thought you mite wanna see this,,, It's been in the works for over a year now,,, "The S-300PS/S-300PM (Russian C-300ПC/C-300ПМ, NATO reporting name SA-10d/e) was introduced in 1985 and is the only version thought to have been fitted with a nuclear warhead." This one can be used against Air/Ground/Sea targets,,, If this damned thing has a fail-safe over-ride on it Iran will be able to hit any state in the gulf with a nuke,,, This is a proven system,,, Ain't junk...:0/
20 posted on 11/28/2009 12:21:34 AM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0geurYz0BBL3tYANihXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEzb204czlyBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMQRjb2xvA2FjMgR2dGlkA1FSVzFfMTEx/SIG=11v5p8hi6/EXP=1259479475/**http%3a//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SA-10A_Grumble


21 posted on 11/28/2009 12:23:10 AM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: VeniVidiVici

I don’t know why they’d have too much of a problem with it. The Israelis did have a joint exercise with Greece that enabled the Israelis to test their aircraft against the Greek (originally Cypriot) S-300s.


22 posted on 11/28/2009 1:10:10 AM PST by Constantine XI Palaeologus ("Vicisti, Galilaee")
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To: Constantine XI Palaeologus

That said, I would expect the Russians to have made updates by now.


23 posted on 11/28/2009 1:16:19 AM PST by Constantine XI Palaeologus ("Vicisti, Galilaee")
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To: Flavius

Looks like Bibi will have to move that timetable up a bit. I agree with you...the strait of Hormuz will be closed for at least a month or more and oil will shoot to 3 or 4 hundred a barrel. Gas will be $10 a gallon if it’s available at all.


24 posted on 11/28/2009 4:17:17 AM PST by Artie (Why are methadone addicts the happiest people on earth?)
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To: Flavius

Is this the same Russia that Obama tried to appease by stabbing our Polish and Czech allies in the back in order to get Russia to help us with our Iran problem?


25 posted on 11/28/2009 4:20:29 AM PST by Hoodat (For the weapons of our warfare are mighty in God for pulling down strongholds.)
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To: Flavius

Russia ‘will’ deliver S-300 to Iran in 2 months ...............................Hidden message here?


26 posted on 11/28/2009 11:18:57 AM PST by Bringbackthedraft (Beware of the Palin Tsunami!!!)
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To: Flavius

The risk has been the same since 1979...

What is funny is that we’ve had it under control since the 80’s...

But some countries like Russia just love to see chaos, and potential conflict that would benefit their economy...

Like someone else said here...Those S-300 systems are targets...

It really is all about who will blink first over there...


27 posted on 11/28/2009 3:45:33 PM PST by stevie_d_64
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To: Constantine XI Palaeologus

The Israelis were testing any new countermeasures that they have probably developed(Suter Program)


28 posted on 11/28/2009 4:30:21 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("We will either find a way, or make one."Hannibal/Carthaginian Military Commander)
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To: sonofstrangelove

or, if the are to be delivered on that date certain, strike then and get the missile defense system, too.


29 posted on 11/28/2009 7:25:08 PM PST by dtrpscout (A bad dog is better than most good people.)
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To: dtrpscout

This is what a typical S-300 missile site looks like. This is from a Chinese missile base
30 posted on 11/28/2009 10:14:42 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("We will either find a way, or make one."Hannibal/Carthaginian Military Commander)
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To: sonofstrangelove

Really? If so, I’d be annoyed if I were the Greeks. If the Israelis were doing that, wouldn’t the Greeks be undermining their own equipment (although I guess they also have Patriots)?


31 posted on 11/29/2009 2:47:25 AM PST by Constantine XI Palaeologus ("Vicisti, Galilaee")
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

yea, this sale has been pending for some time

lot of analyst and think-tank types believe this is a red line for the Israelis and that they would attack before the S-300 was operational as it would make the already difficult task at hand that much tougher


32 posted on 11/29/2009 7:39:41 AM PST by jhpigott
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To: maquiladora; jeffers

ping


33 posted on 11/29/2009 7:43:27 AM PST by jhpigott
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To: Constantine XI Palaeologus

Lets have a frame of reference. This is the Greek Air Defense Network. I think that the Greeks may have let the Israelis because they are "allies" and the exercise more realistic.
34 posted on 11/29/2009 6:45:48 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("We will either find a way, or make one."Hannibal/Carthaginian Military Commander)
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To: sonofstrangelove

I figured the Greeks would be kind of leery of helping out the Israelis too much, given the relatively (until recently) close ties the Israelis have with the Turks. I just wouldn’t see the trade off as being of significant benefit for the Greeks.


35 posted on 11/29/2009 9:08:10 PM PST by Constantine XI Palaeologus ("Vicisti, Galilaee")
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To: Constantine XI Palaeologus

Relations are souring beween the Turks and the Israelis. The Israels may have new friends if Turkey continues its path of Radicalism.


36 posted on 11/29/2009 9:15:06 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("We will either find a way, or make one."Hannibal/Carthaginian Military Commander)
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To: babygene

Iraq had old antiquated Soviet systems that were 70’s vintage, with the Syrians having early 80’s vintage hardware and software.


37 posted on 11/29/2009 9:31:36 PM PST by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: sonofstrangelove

If Greece has the S-300, than the US has got to have a demonstrator model (Greece is part of NATO).


38 posted on 11/29/2009 9:34:10 PM PST by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: Thunder90

100 percent agree with that.


39 posted on 11/29/2009 9:35:16 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("We will either find a way, or make one."Hannibal/Carthaginian Military Commander)
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To: Flavius

Given that Russian-made planes in Iran crash every few months, who knows, the missiles may turn out to be like this:


40 posted on 11/30/2009 2:51:45 PM PST by G8 Diplomat
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To: sonofstrangelove

True, but still, compromising your security (although, I don’t know how much the Greeks need the S-300s given they have Patriots too) to help someone who’s only a moderate ally at best seems a bit much. In fact, given past Israeli-Turkish cooperation, the Greeks might view the Israelis as a hostile for all I know. I just find it hard to believe the Greeks would just let the Israelis poke and prod their air defenses without something in return. Anyways, thanks for the info :) .


41 posted on 11/30/2009 11:12:10 PM PST by Constantine XI Palaeologus ("Vicisti, Galilaee")
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To: Constantine XI Palaeologus

No Problem.


42 posted on 12/01/2009 12:40:49 AM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("We will either find a way, or make one."Hannibal/Carthaginian Military Commander)
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To: Thunder90

Russia sold S300 to US during Yeltsyn presidency.


43 posted on 12/04/2009 11:18:10 PM PST by Cossak
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