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Birth Certificate Submitted by Obama's Grandmother
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| 12/12/2009
| borderraven
Posted on 12/12/2009 12:28:23 AM PST by BorderRaven
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To: bjorn14
Well, 2 things we should do and that is to begin to raise money to elect a secretary of state that will demand to see a BC before letting BHO on the ballot in that state. Also raise money to hire a competent big time lawyer to force the courts too look into this matter.
Also keep up the PR pressure, as BHO continues to fail people will take a harder look at him. I like one FReepers idea of leaving Post-It notes everywhere in public asking Wheres the Birth Certificate?
I agree.
To: BIGLOOK
It could also serve other purposes as Madelyn Dunham knew from her experience working at Bank of Hawaii. On the only discovered form that appears valid, it’s Madelyn’s signature alone that attests to young Barry’s birth. (This should raise eyebrows.)
Link or Jpeg???
To: BorderRaven
I believe that is not Obamas BC. 1st off it doesnt coincide with Hawaii DOH statement that Obama was born in Hawaii. 2nd the boxes near the signatures appear to have been whited out and the xx’s appear to be typewritten. 3rd The signatures appear to be done by the same handwritting and the 8 for month next to Madelyn's name appears to be an attempt to disguise handwriting. 4th There is no file number on the BC. 5th there are numerous broken lines 6th it would not be a delayed BC. 7th,Kalanianole (address) is misspelled
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posted on
12/12/2009 12:14:32 PM PST
by
rolling_stone
(no more bailouts, the taxpayers are out of money!)
To: DontTreadOnMe2009; null and void; LucyT; Fred Nerks
Link or Jpeg???
Can anyone help out with the Certificate of Live Birth that only had Madelyn Dunham as witness and applicant that was posted once?
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posted on
12/12/2009 12:16:07 PM PST
by
BIGLOOK
(Keelhaul Congress!)
To: BIGLOOK
Not to debate semantics, I think a birth certificate obtained by way of false representations is fraudulent.
I am unaware of the document to which you refer purportedly signed by Obama's grandmother. Can you fill me in please?
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posted on
12/12/2009 12:27:37 PM PST
by
nathanbedford
("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
To: rolling_stone
I believe that is not Obamas BC. 1st off it doesnt coincide with Hawaii DOH statement that Obama was born in Hawaii. 2nd the boxes near the signatures appear to have been whited out and the xxs appear to be typewritten. 3rd The signatures appear to be done by the same handwriting and the 8 for month next to Madelyn's name appears to be an attempt to disguise handwriting. 4th There is no file number on the BC. 5th there are numerous broken lines 6th it would not be a delayed BC. 7th,Kalanianole (address) is misspelled Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner!
I had a gut instinct that the signatures weren't what you would have seen at the time on such a document -- a little too flamboyant or exuberant.
Also it looks like they left out the "e" in "Madelyn."
But golly, it looks like the signatures are in the same handwriting.
Why are we even asked to bother with such obvious forgeries?
46
posted on
12/12/2009 12:27:55 PM PST
by
x
To: kittykat77
If I recall correctly, Phillip Berg tried to get medical records for S.A.D. and could find no evidence that she was ever pregnant at that time.
47
posted on
12/12/2009 12:29:31 PM PST
by
smokingfrog
(I'm from TEXAS -- what country are YOU from?)
To: BorderRaven
48
posted on
12/12/2009 12:31:57 PM PST
by
shield
(A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
To: nathanbedford
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posted on
12/12/2009 12:49:56 PM PST
by
Balata
To: nathanbedford
I'm sending out a search party for that document as we speak.
It was a copy of the Certificate of Live Birth that was applied for and signed by Madelyn Dunham. The absence of the signature by the birth mother gave me pause. I use my family documents as a comparison and this one most resembled those. However, it was a short form only and I have both long and short forms as a basis.
I wasn't arguing a matter of semantics, just pointing out the convoluted rational of Hawaiian law makers to benefit the Territory, later the State and their own self interests. Their intent became law and though I also do not agree with it, it's a done deal.
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posted on
12/12/2009 12:54:09 PM PST
by
BIGLOOK
(Keelhaul Congress!)
To: jws3sticks
Who is going to lead the effort to get this guy and his group the heck out of the White House?It will become obvious in the next 12 months that he cannot be allowed to continue.
This cannot and will not be resolved by legal means unless a majority of sitting Federal officials who are Democrats agree.
On the question of whether or not they will, much rests.
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posted on
12/12/2009 12:55:48 PM PST
by
Jim Noble
(Hu's the communist?)
To: Candor7; BP2
Please see #42 and any help would be appreciated.
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posted on
12/12/2009 1:03:06 PM PST
by
BIGLOOK
(Keelhaul Congress!)
To: BorderRaven
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posted on
12/12/2009 1:29:26 PM PST
by
Cacique
(quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
To: rolling_stone
I believe that is not Obamas BC. 1st off it doesnt coincide with Hawaii DOH statement that Obama was born in Hawaii. 2nd the boxes near the signatures appear to have been whited out and the xxs appear to be typewritten. 3rd The signatures appear to be done by the same handwritting and the 8 for month next to Madelyn's name appears to be an attempt to disguise handwriting. 4th There is no file number on the BC. 5th there are numerous broken lines 6th it would not be a delayed BC. 7th,Kalanianole (address) is misspelled. Look also at Items 6a, 6b and 6c.
Under "Place of Birth: City, Town or Rural Location on 6a, we have: "Honolulu 1" (no idea what the "1" means, other than a typo).
Under "Island," on 6b, we have "Oahu".
Then, on 6c, under "Name of Hospital or Institution," we have "Unknown - Kenya, Africa."
So, this child was born in Hawaii, on the island of Oahu, in an unknown hospital in Kenya. Okey, dokey.
This is an incredibly sloppy, and funny, forgery.
By the way, for those who can't find the link, it's in the first post, but it's not a live link. You'll have to copy and paste it into your browser. It won't bite.
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posted on
12/12/2009 1:35:57 PM PST
by
browardchad
("Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own fact." - Daniel P Moynihan)
To: BIGLOOK
The question remains, why would Madelyn Payne Dunham misspell her own christian name and the name of the Street?
The first two signatures on the Hawaii 'document' appear to be written by the same hand.
I do not see this as a 'birth certificate' but as an application. From which a certification of live birth was FILED.
NOT ACCEPTED.
If the application is genuine, we must ask how was it obtained? And who filled in the form? I very much doubt that Madelyn had anything to do with it. Who might it have been that didn't know how to spell Madelyn...nor the the name of the street? A foreigner to Hawaii?
To: Balata
I believe those numbers have been proven to be so far off it couldn’t be real.
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posted on
12/12/2009 1:40:32 PM PST
by
shield
(A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
To: Fred Nerks
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posted on
12/12/2009 1:42:47 PM PST
by
Electric Graffiti
(Yonder stands your orphan with his gun)
To: DontTreadOnMe2009
Did the Twins Birth Announcement ever turn up?
___________________
No, it did not. Not that week, not the next week, or the next week........
Theirs was removed, the microfilm tampered with and barry’s was inserted in that spot.
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posted on
12/12/2009 1:48:18 PM PST
by
mojitojoe
(“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
To: mojitojoe
If the Obama announcement was triggered by a Hawaii DOH certificate filing you would think the Nordyke twins would be in there somewhere.
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posted on
12/12/2009 1:54:21 PM PST
by
Electric Graffiti
(Yonder stands your orphan with his gun)
To: WellyP
That’s an urban legend.
Travel to Pakistan by American citizens was not banned by the U.S. or Pakistan. It was so easy for Americans to travel to Pakistan in 1981 that Pakistan was issuing 30-day visas to Americans upon arrival at any airport in Pakistan.
I’ve posted (on FR) the relevant Travel Advisory issued by the U.S. State Department in 1981. It summarizes the above information and further indicates that if American citizens plan to stay in Pakistan longer than 30 days they must apply for a longer-term visa prior to travelling there.
You can verify this information yourself by searching FR for the travel advisory.
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posted on
12/12/2009 1:55:11 PM PST
by
BuckeyeTexan
(Integrity, Honesty, Character, & Loyalty still matter)
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