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To: SeattleBruce; wagglebee; onyx; StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; ...
“All this does is prove beyond any doubt that CPAC is no longer conservative.”

Well, they’re cheering on a good speech/presentation by Beck anyhow...but the straw poll is just weird/distressing...wonder how many get to vote in that??

I just returned from my 8th consecutive CPAC and have said this over and over again on Free Republic:

DO NOT put any stock in that ridiculous CPAC straw poll that they insist on doing year after year! It bugs me so much that the media takes this non-scientific poll so damn seriously.

CPAC has so many wonderful events going on simultaneously, and the majority of attendees who bother to take the significant amount of time out of their day to "vote" in that straw poll are students (usually young guys between the ages of 18-25). And the ones who vote (over and over again) are rabid about their candidate - this year it happened to be Ron Paul.

I see these young guys every year at the straw poll tables... tables monitored by students, btw. These kids start filling out the paper ballots at the beginning of the conference (before they even listen to any speeches), they vote multiple times and stuff the stupid cardboard boxes with their ballots. It's kind of like us "FReeping" a poll, to be honest.

And then the media goes crazy proclaiming "Conservatives pick Ron Paul as their favorite candidate for 2012! Wow!"

I hate that dumbass CPAC straw poll. I don't have any "clout" with the CPAC honchos, but my husband and I are going to write and request that they stop running this straw poll every year. This thing totally misrepresents the majority of attendees at the conference.

CPAC had over 10,000 attendees this year, and about 2,395 of them voted in the straw poll. 52% were male, and in the 18-25 age bracket. Or so the poll said... who knows if these were even honest answers?

BTW, just before Glenn Beck's closing keynote speech, the pollster - Tony Fabrizio - read the Ron Paul result, and the crowd of 10,000 loudly BOOed, and for a significant time. I was one of 'em! Over in a far corner, there were a few wimpy cheers in the student section. Yeah, you guessed it - the Paulestinians.

You can find the results of this silly poll here if you're interested:

http://www.cpac.org/

631 posted on 02/21/2010 11:06:14 PM PST by nutmeg (Rush Limbaugh & Sarah Palin agree: NO third parties! Take back the GOP)
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To: nutmeg; Molly Pitcher; ohioWfan; maggief; SoCalPol; hoosiermama; Liz; Lakeshark; JustPiper; ...

THANK YOU NUTMEG!

I didn’t know they were allowed to vote multiple times!!!!

I recalled you telling me that most of the adults don’t bother to vote -— too busy attending all the good workshops and visiting radio row, etc. -— but it’s news to me about the multiple voting.

YES, WE HEARD THE BOOS LOUD AND CLEAR WHEN RON PAUL WAS ANNOUNCED THE WINNER!

In fact, FNC replayed the segment more than twice that I saw....LOL.


634 posted on 02/21/2010 11:13:30 PM PST by onyx (BE A MONTHLY DONOR - I AM)
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To: nutmeg
I tend to agree. Three years ago when I went, Romney won the straw poll. Big deal. Sam Brownback had a heckuva "youth" organization there . . . and it did squat for him. I remember going to one event where a tiny room was barely full. Like anything, these polls and hoopla are manufactured.

As to Beck's speech, I saw it, and it was pretty much no different than his TV show. So he doesn't think the Republicans have hit rock bottom yet in terms of their need to change. I dunno. We'll see.

I find it hard, though, to accept the notion that "there's no difference" between one party that votes close to 100% FOR a health care bill and one whose combined Senate/House numbers were 267/268 AGAINST. Huh???? This is as starkly different as you can get.

Sure, the GOP still spends money. Clue: read the chapter in my forthcoming book, Seven Events that Made America America. The very nature of the two-party system is to bid for votes via patronage/spoils/money. I've come to the conclusion that it is the nature of freely-elected democracies, and that the only hope for "restraining" government is to make sure the private sector outgrows it and reduces it relatively.

641 posted on 02/22/2010 3:31:29 AM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: nutmeg

Thanks for setting the record straight, FRiend.


642 posted on 02/22/2010 3:53:08 AM PST by Bigg Red (Palin/Hunter 2012 -- Bolton their Secretary of State)
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To: nutmeg

Thanks for clearing that up nutmeg. It had many of us scratching our head.


643 posted on 02/22/2010 5:12:19 AM PST by StarFan
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To: nutmeg

hehehehehehehe...you said “dumbass”


647 posted on 02/22/2010 5:54:33 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (Camelot sleeps with the fishes!)
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To: nutmeg

“DO NOT put any stock in that ridiculous CPAC straw poll that they insist on doing year after year! It bugs me so much that the media takes this non-scientific poll so damn seriously.”

And yet they don’t take Rasmussen seriously...great.

They should do away with the poll, if it’s been so hijacked...what’s the point??

Furthermore, they should start steering the org back toward conservative control, lest they become like the adrift GOP.


654 posted on 02/22/2010 6:42:32 AM PST by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773 & pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: nutmeg

Glad you enjoyed CPAC I will be going to the one in 2013 I guess.


677 posted on 02/22/2010 7:33:04 AM PST by Warrior Nurse (President Obama is proof that affirmative action is a process that has failed)
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To: nutmeg

Thanks for the ping!


697 posted on 02/22/2010 10:02:31 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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