Posted on 02/22/2010 6:28:24 PM PST by presidio9
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2457178/posts?page=223#223
“Are you sure that your agenda on FR is not to keep posting messages to defend the RINOs?”
Well said.
I neither get drunk, nor use illegal drugs. Nor do I associate with people who do.
The Left regularly attacks the messenger instead of the message. I expect, and often get, better from libertarians and conservatives.
RINOs and liberals often can’t go more than about five sentences without making a personal attack.
What "claim" did I make that you are you going on about that is not credible?
Your posts on this thread clearly lead me to believe this is a lie which is not a stretch as you have been proven a liar up thread.
The Left regularly attacks the messenger instead of the message.
Typical puffery be a person insecure in their own opinion. Sometimes the messenger is the message because he is speaking his own mind not delivering information from a sober source that is actually intelligent.
Your lack of even understanding having friends is very telling.
Slapfights on FR will not end the Democrat majority in Congress. Only winning elections will do that.
To win elections, we need to mend the fractures in the Republican party.
So far, you’re not helping do that.
You have nothing to convince anyone that Ron Paul is anything but a dangerous old fool.
If I can stop him from even being a viable Presidential candidate then I have indeed accomplished my goal just like I hopefully helped keep Medina out of the Governor’s Mansion.
True Conservatives will never discard our principles and back a Libertarian or a truther.
I don’t care if you hate libertarians. I don’t care if you ignore all evidence, no matter how well sourced, you’re wrong about libertarian Republicans.
But as long as you remain unwilling to commit to vote party unity, you’ll be just as guilty as those Republicans who allowed Obama to become president in the first place.
In some ways, what you’re doing is even worse. You should know at this point what an awful President Obama is.
And you should know that our only chance to defeat him and his agenda is to end the factionalism in the Republican party.
But instead of helping rebuild, you’re spending your time smearing libertarian Republicans as truthers. Okay. You win this argument. Congratulations.
Now can we rebuild the Republican party in time for 2010?
Horse crap. I am not wrong about Libertarians and all the evidence is on my side.
Now can we rebuild the Republican party in time for 2010?
If you kick the Libertarians and truthers to the curb and support true Conservative, yes.
That's ridiculous. First of all, there is about ZERO chance that Ron Paul will be on the presidential ticket, so stop trying to accuse people like us of "allowing" Obama to become president.
Our focus is to get a true conservative on the ticket this time instead of having to hold our noses and vote for some idiot like McCain or Romney. A lot of us just won't do that this time around.
But instead of helping rebuild, you’re spending your time smearing libertarian Republicans as truthers.
That is part of rebuilding. Keeping non-conservatives off the ticket is critical. Libertarians have no business spamming and infiltrating the GOP. They are the ones causing dissent everywhere they go. Their egos drive them to get their message out there and the fact that they use our ticket to do it is just disgusting. Libertarians hate Republicans more than they do Democrats. Just listen to Ron Paul. He'll trash Republicans, but you'll rarely, if ever, hear him say anything critical of Democrats. Ron Paul and his acolytes do not have the best of intentions for our country.
Oh, and you never answered my question. What "claim" was I making that you did not find credible?
I was too tired the other night to post much (if at all, I was in two all day audits - ah!), but thanks for respectfully disagreeing at any rate, and good luck to you too.
Sorry, I was too beat the other night to reply and I’ll drop the thread after this as it’s old and now we have to worry about Obama’s SS attacking all of GM’s competitors. I dare say the axis less a threat in WWII.
Anyway, I’m just aiming to see the points where Libertarians and Conservatives/Republicans (sadly sometimes very different things these days) agree. We know that things like drug legalization and ending ALL foreign excursions are tough sells, but every Conservative agrees that the gov’t is insanely large, insanely powerful, and is now becoming insanely evil. We can argue about the rest of the stuff when the gov’t is too small to make us fight amongst ourselves, but until that day comes, we need to find the points on which we agree and hammer them home.
What I really fear now is the fragmenting that I see. I hear Rush and Levin dissing Beck and Savage dissing all of them and all of them dissing Ron Paul. And that makes me worry. They know how to divide and conquer much better than us because it’s in their deceitful nature.
I’ll shut up now though, so we can see the d.c. Stalin has up his sleeve today.
I can't imagine that it could ever happen. Primaries are State sanctioned elections of party affiliated candidates. Ballot access restrictions in almost every State prevent third parties from participating in the primary process.
I’m not remotely suggesting anyone vote for the Libertarian party. That’s a non-starter. I’m suggesting that others not dismiss libertarian-leaning Republicans.
As a shorthand, capital-L “Libertarian” normally means the Libertarian party. Whereas libertarian refers more broadly to all those who want who to reduce governments’ control of our lives.
You’re wrong about libertarian Republicans. You’re also confusing libertarians in the Republican party with the Libertarian Party. They are two separate groups of people.
I don’t support the Libertarian Party either.
A useful discussion would be to gauge your willingness to support libertarian Republicans. If you’re not willing to accept them as allies, then you’d appear to prefer Democrats to win in 2010.
For me, it’s easy and natural to accept support from other Republicans even if I disagree with them on some issues.
Hopefully enough other Republicans will feel the same way so we can clean up the mess in Washington this year in early November.
No, I am not. No matter how many times you repeat a lie, it is still a lie.
If you’re not willing to accept them as allies, then you’d appear to prefer Democrats to win in 2010.
Another pant load of crap. I prefer real Conservatives that are not nuts.
For me, it’s easy and natural to accept support from other Republicans even if I disagree with them on some issues.
Principles, some of us have them some of you don't. I disagree with libertarians and especially Ron "Almond Joy" Paul on key issues where there is no bending. Period.
Hopefully enough other Republicans will feel the same way so we can clean up the mess in Washington this year in early November.
Ron Paul is a like a pedophile who works a nickel cheaper than the next candidate. He might save you just enough money that you are willing to sacrifice your children's future and hire him as a nanny. I am not.
Ron Paul can go to hell and take all of his anti-war pot smoking illegal alien loving George Bush hating psychotic fanboys with him!
Please feel free to show me exactly how it was “misinterpreted”.
Most libertarian bashers refuse to differentiate between large and small ells.
I just received a FReepmail from another Paulbot spammer pushing your nutcase idiot.
Thanks for nothing Paulbot libertarians!
Big “L” or little “l” spammers suck. Just look how y’all linked up with the queers and made a joke out of CPAC.
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