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To: DesertRenegade

I don’t care if gays want to be conservatives. I’m ok with that. But they need to be conservative. Leave their liberal tendencies at the door.

however, on the other hand, there are plenty of straight conservatives that harbor a liberal idea or two on one issue or another. Why are the gay conservatives any different than these other “conservatives”?


9 posted on 02/22/2010 9:14:28 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: mamelukesabre

>if gays want to be conservatives. I’m ok with that.<

1. They cannot be conservatives or promote conservatism, even as regards fiscally and traditional constitutional interpretation, much less morally, as the former in the long term relies upon the latter, as long as they sanction or promote homosexuality.

2. The homosexuality movement relies upon deceit and its psychological tactics, and works toward censure of all opposition, and so GOPride ultimately would promote fascism, and its infiltration in the CPAC and intolerance there would be just a precursor of a larger work.

3. More critically, war against the God of the scriptures is suicidal, and America is already paying part of a much greater price for so doing, and homosexuality certainly part of that rebellion. http://peacebyjesus.witnesstoday.org/RevealingStatistics.html http://peacebyjesus.witnesstoday.org/Homosex_versus_the_Bible.html


29 posted on 02/22/2010 9:24:15 PM PST by daniel1212 ("Whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord [only Biblical object of petition] shall be saved")
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To: mamelukesabre

“I don’t care if gays want to be conservatives. I’m ok with that. But they need to be conservative.”

Exactly. I have nothing against homosexuals who want to support Conservative politics. But there are already dozens of legitimate groups which have been fighting for lower taxes and less government bureaucracy - and these groups have existed for decades. Why in the world would a group of homosexuals form a political interest group based on what they do under the sheets? That right there sets off a lot of alarm bells.


55 posted on 02/22/2010 9:38:01 PM PST by DesertRenegade
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To: mamelukesabre

” Why are the gay conservatives any different than these other “conservatives”?”

Because “gay conservatives” have an agenda which is their main agenda: which includes

-the homosexualization of our military,

-the destruction of traditional marriage,

-the passage of “hate crime” legislation (to the point where a church or individual can’t teach that homosexuality is a sin) and individual businesses like photographers are forced to document homo “weddings”

-the perversion of children through the public school system and organizations that work with kids,

-and the destruction or neutering of all organizations that resist them, such as they have done to Big Brothers/Sisters and the Girl Scouts (who went pro-gay) and Catholic Social Services (which can no longer place kids for adoption in certain states)

- and the punishment of all independent businesses such as photographers who don’t want to do homo “weddings.”

They infiltrate in order to DESTROY.


128 posted on 02/22/2010 11:06:48 PM PST by The Future 2012 (Would the good people like a reply?)
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To: mamelukesabre
"Why are the gay conservatives any different than these other “conservatives”?"

Well for starters, we don't have to worry about catching diseases that have no cure from these "other conservatives."

130 posted on 02/22/2010 11:09:11 PM PST by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: mamelukesabre; Noumenon
Why are the gay conservatives any different than these other “conservatives”?

Because, like muslims, gay terrorists will claim anything during their infiltration of a group or organization. Once they have established sufficient hooks, they begin exerting control of the group or organization, until it becomes primarily an organization to promote gay (or muslim, socialist, commie, etc.) control, and all other previous objectives of the organizations become secondary or non-existent.

And guess what. The next group or organization targeted for takeover will swear adamantly that, "they aren't really that different from us," and "we need to show that we can be tolerant." Then that group or organization becomes another arm of gay (or muslim) control, and on and on, like some mutant zombie vampire nightmare.

It's Gramsci's Long March through the Institutions.

172 posted on 02/23/2010 12:41:03 AM PST by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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To: mamelukesabre; All

“...however, on the other hand, there are plenty of straight conservatives that harbor a liberal idea or two on one issue or another. Why are the gay conservatives any different than these other “conservatives”?

What near destroyed the GOP is your embrace without the important caveat that says the GOP will allow groups -ASYLUM - ONLY. Let any group support the conservative platform all they want; however, they cannot come into this party and attempt to promulgate immorality, which is destructive to the very foundations of the party.

It’s just as absurd as allowing Muslims to become part of our government. Islam results in tyranny and savagery in every part of the Islamic world. That is because it is a savage religion founded by a murderous pedophile who built the entire religion on force, plunder, murder and rape. It is very unpopular to admit this because the west is hell bent on self-destruction but the bottom-line is that allowing Islam representation in our government is EXACTLY the same as allowing a religion whose central tenet is to destroy Democracy and of course to destroy America.

Allowing homosexuality is not the same thing as inviting Islam in that homosexuals don’t necessarily -intend- to destroy our party and our country. They just intend to permeate our body, corrupt our collective morals and legitimize their sin. Our destruction just happens to be an inevitable consequence.

The overall point is that the words “big tent” cannot mean that we give commendation to all beliefs. Asylum is crucial. The lesson we better have learned over the past decade is that if we do not hold firm to our conservative platform and allow people who have beliefs that are destructive to our party into leadership roles within the party and elective office simply because “only a moderate can win in New Hampshire or New York” - we are inviting our destruction. That mistake that we have to support people like Arlen Specter is exactly why our nation is in the debacle it is in today.

Is a virus a good thing simply because it can survive in a particular environment?


185 posted on 02/23/2010 7:15:15 AM PST by publius321
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To: mamelukesabre

How can a gay be ‘conservative’? What is traditional about being gay? It would be kind of hypocritical to claim to want to ‘conserve’ the tradition of limited government, etc., while at the same time desiring a change in values held for thousands of years in all cultures. Gays might be more consistent being ‘libertarians’. To me, that would make more sense.


346 posted on 02/24/2010 7:06:48 AM PST by sydney smith
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