Posted on 03/06/2010 1:05:31 PM PST by GVnana
One way that leftists have managed to keep alive their dead, defeated, bankrupting theories on issues like so-called health care is by perverting the definition of very basic terms.
The word “right” is one of the most glaring examples of a definition that’s been distorted by the intellectual house-of-horrors mirror that is leftist theory.
Every American has the “right” to health care they argue.
They’re right. Every American does have a right to health care. In fact, they have that “right” right now. They have the right to buy insurance. They have the right to not buy insurance. They have the right to pay out of pocket. They have the right get a second opinion. They have the right to rub a little dirt on it and suck it up. They have a right to help out a friend in need.
What they don’t have is the “right” to health care in the perverted leftist sense of the word.
A “right,” in the traditional American lexicon laid out by the likes of Thomas Jefferson, is something that exists by virtue of our humanity. It is “inalienable” and we are endowed with these rights by our creator. No government or institution has the power to take away these rights. You exist, therefore these rights exist.
In the leftist sense of the word, though, a “right” is something very different. In fact, it’s not a “right” at all: it’s a handout provided to you by government, often at exorbitant costs to society.
“I have the ‘right’ to health care!” the leftists demand angrily. “Therefore, the government must provide it for me!”
(Excerpt) Read more at biggovernment.com ...
I have a right to own a gun...I’m a little short of cash right now...will the government arrange that one be delivered to me?
As a good, it is up to individuals to place it in the hierarchy of goods and decide for themselves how aggressively to pursue it based on their perception of its value.
It most certainly is not a "right" as defined by the Constitution and bestowed on man by God.
They seem to forget people have a choice; but that’s the lefty way; only one choice, one way.
Good article!
There is no right to health care.. but there is a right to complain about it!
NEW NATIONAL HEALTH CARE PLAN
“It’s your right, it’s free, it’s in the constitution”
List of Benefits
You no longer decide whether to pay for health care, and how much. Everyone is a member. Everyone. Enrollment is free.
You no longer decide what doctor to see. We do that for you.
You no longer have to worry about your doctor’s skill level. All ‘our’ doctors are government employees and union-organized.
You no longer have to decide what kind/type of coverage you should purchase. We decide what kind of health care you need and when. And how long.
Should we decide not to cover your needs, you must still pay. Payments must be kept current, even up to pre-scheduled deathtime.
Payment will be taken out of your income, deducted from your paychecks, along with taxes and surcharges.
How could any of this go wrong?
The Left’s “perverted definition” of rights? Add it to the list... definition of morality, diplomacy, bipartisanship...
Not quite enough for this discussion. What this addresses is natural or inalienable rights. It's not bad as far as it goes in that vein, except for the claim that no government or institution has the power to take away these rights. I believe Governments and institutions use their power to take rights away on a regular basis. Of course that doesn't mean that said power is legitimate or used legitimately, but it is used.
But there are various types of rights, which is something that needs to be recognized when discussing rights. Here is a definition from Webster's 1828 dictionary, which is as close as I have found to the time of the Founders:
RIGHT.n.
10. Just claim; immunity; privilege. All men have a right to the secure enjoyment of life, personal safety, liberty and property. We deem the right of trial by jury invaluable, particularly in the case of crimes. Rights are natural, civil, political, religious, personal, and public.
(Note that this is the tenth definition and the others are excluded here as not applicable to this discussion.)
As shown there are various kinds of rights besides natural or unalienable. One can have a natural right to life, but not a natural right to a trial by jury. There are no jury trials absent an organized society that incorporates a civil or legal right to a trial by jury in its legal system.
There are also contract rights. And one could have a contract right to health care if, for instance, one had an employment contract with a hospital which entitled one to said health care as a benefit.
We do not have a natural right to health care, except maybe what we can do for ourselves. There is really no way that we can be given a natural right to health care.
The liberals want to establish a legal or civil right to health care. I think what they want to do is a bad idea.
transparency, ethical, legal, constitutional.
"Freedom of choice is what you got. Freedom from choice is what you want."
DEVO
If other people have to pay for it, its not a right
The right to contract covers transactions between consenting parties. Hardly the magnitude of "god-given, inviolate" rights.
Lefties get these two things confused. Probably because they're educated in public schools and don't believe in using dictionaries. :)
Obama has determined that individual have no rights and that this is critically needed to better serve the greater good.
And there are many people who still do not think he is a Communist?
Te only thing that comes between him and his Statest Dream for America is the Constitution and I’m sure he’s working on that right now.
It is a right to keep what we earn and a right to spend it as WE wish. That seems basic.
As it is now framed, the so called “right” to health care will deny us the right to NOT buy insurance. How very odd for a right to be forced upon us. If we look at rights the way they do then the 2nd amendment requires the government to provide each of us with a gun at our own expense? Their logic is nonexistent.
I want Freedom from choice? No thanks.
Obama says: “We all have Rights to things.”
Obama means: Repeal the 13th Amendment. Surrender your work products. Let’s treat each other like slaves.
“Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn’t pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children’s children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.” ~~ President Ronald Reagan
OBAMANOMICS—TRICKLE DOWN DESTRUCTION of the economy
Bambi doesn’t keep his promises...so buyer beware!
SET THEIR LOCAL AND DC LINES ON FIRE!
PLEASE ASK THEM TO REPEAL THE BIG NEW FEES in TRICARE for Life, the retired Military over 65 secondary health ins. which they passed in a DOD bill. They promised our Military these benefits, and our Military have earned them.
Sen Scott Brown’s number is 202-224-4543
Capitol Hill switchboard is 202-224-3121
Lots of local demwit phone numbers on this thread
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2408217/posts
Rename, repackage, rewrite it a tad smaller, and sell another pig in a poke. NO COLAs for granny, retired Military or retired fed employees. BIG NEW fees for Tricare for Life retired over 65 Military’s secondary health ins. (DOD bill already passed, delayed but goes into effect 2011 NEEDS TO BE REPEALED!
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OBAMA’s WAR ON SENIORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2433867/posts/
New Dem mantra: Woof, woof eat dog food granny....ala let them eat cake.
Obama says slight fix will extend Social Security, http://townhall.com/news/us/2010/02/19/obama_says_slight_fix_will_extend_social_security
Health Care Rationing for Seniors Another Problem in New Obama Plan http://www.lifenews.com/bio3058.html
Medicare tax may apply to investment income (ObamaCare tax hike)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2460988/posts
Obama: No reduced Medicare benefits in health care reform
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/07/28/obama.health.care/index.html
Will healthcare reform mean cuts in Medicare for seniors?
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2009/1017/will-healthcare-reform-mean-cuts-in-medicare-for-seniors
Health Reform’s Hidden Victims Young people and seniors would pay a high price for ObamaCare.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203517304574306303720472842.html
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SOCIALIZED MED THREAD http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2464538/posts
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MILITARY & Retired MILITARY
Veterans’ G.I. Bill benefits MIA
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2464680/posts
TRI CARE FOR LIFE This from a google search:
http://economicspolitics.blogspot.com/2009/05/tricare-for-life-is-obama-trying-to.html
This option would help reduce the costs of TFL, as well as costs for Medicare, by introducing minimum out-of pocket requirements for beneficiaries. Under this option, TFL would not cover any of the first $525 of an enrollee’s cost-sharing liabilities for calendar year 2011 and would limit coverage to 50 percent of the next $4,725 in Medicare cost sharing that the beneficiary incurred. (Because all further cost sharing would be covered by TFL, enrollees could not pay more than $2,888 in cost sharing in that year.) http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/99xx/doc9925/12-18-HealthOptions.pdf
Bill Would Restrict Veterans’ Health Care Options 11/06/09
Buyer and McKeon Offer Amendments to Protect Veterans and TRICARE Beneficiaries
Congress plans to block Tricare fee increases
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w
http://www.navytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w/
By Rick Maze - Staff writer, Oct 7, 2009
Tricare fee increases imposed last week by the Defense Department will be repealed by a provision of the compromise 2010 defense authorization bill unveiled Wednesday by House and Senate negotiators.
The fee increases were announced on Sept. 30 and took effect on Oct. 1, but the defense bill, HR 2647, includes a provision barring any fee increases until the start of fiscal 2011.
Retired Army Maj. Gen. Bill Matz, president of the National Association for Uniformed Services, said the announcement of fee increases was shocking considering that the Obama administration promised earlier this year to hold off on any new fee Tricare fee increases until fiscal 2011.
“President Obama and DoD assured NAUS and the entire military family earlier this year that there would rightly be no increases in any Tricare fees” in fiscal 2010, Matz said. “We took them at their word, and I can’t believe that a co-pay increase like this was allowed to go forward,” he added.
Obamacare call list: Courtsey of TN Eagle Forum:
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