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Posted on 03/10/2010 6:08:20 AM PST by bray

Therefore, this is what the LORD says: You have not obeyed me; you have not proclaimed FREEDOM for your fellow countrymen. Jer 34:17

The main war in America is the secularist/Atheists vs. Christianity. The National Religion of the US is Atheism which is being preached by fundamentalist Atheists every Christmas and Easter. If they’re so comfortable w/their religion why are they so defensive against Christianity. Not only are they forcing the Courts to ban Christians from every public event, they will not tolerate any Christian symbol or thought anywhere outside the Church. Atheism is the foundation of liberalism just as it was in their model utopias Russia, China, Cambodia, Germany and Cuba. There is no morality or ethical code for Atheism since the base of it’s personal ethics is Moral Relativism as we see its damages to this society and economy today.

Atheism has been making strides in its removal of Christianity for the past 50 yrs. We have seen an unending attack on Christians/Catholics since the early 70s. It was really brought to the front lines w/the introduction of Darwin into the classrooms as well as the removal of the Bible. The introduction of evolution was the replacement of the explanation of the creation of mankind from God to Science. Science then became the replacement of God which every communist gummit uses to brainwash its people. Once God is out of the psyche of the people then the most powerful entity is man who is only exceeded by gummit. They won this battle using that scientific tactic of consensus. The entire science world came together and decided evolution was valid and would be the consensus w/o any other possibilities. Science can’t tolerate more than one theory and is fundamental about their cult as we've seen in the Global Warming Fraud.

Christians also follow our beliefs in a strict compliance according to the Bible. We have been far more tolerant than the scientists as some have accepted a middle ground of Intelligent Design which says evolution is an explanation how God created the Earth. Many churches have accepted parts of evolution as their worship even though there are some real weaknesses in the theory. The Church has allowed Atheists to take over the public square to the point of not really having a place w/in that square w/o being attacked or mocked. In the name of tolerance the Christian church has become a meek shadow of a political voice.

The basic foundation of the Judeo Christian religion is the Ten Commandments. This is the set of principles we are to live our lives by. We are required to not only worship God, we also cannot lie, steal, curse or commit adultery. These are ironclad rules to live your lives to form societal glue for trustworthy honorable people. There is no wiggle room to allow for personal discretion which means when someone tells you something it can be trusted to be the truth. The Ten Commandments are the foundation of both societal structure as well as family organization forming a strong societal and business structure.

Atheists have no Commandments, rather they have Moral Relativism which is just the opposite. This is a fluid morality bending whichever wind happens to be blowing. The point of MR is it’s the ultimate Ends Justify the Means. If you can justify a behavior or action then it is morally justifiable. Due to Atheism man becomes the determiner of what is right or wrong which is what is wrong with America now, we have had decades of Man deciding right and wrong. This allows people to lie if its justifiable such as Global Warming, it’s a lie but it is justified to save the Earth. Cooking the data was justifiable since you were saving the earth. Changing the rules in the Senate is justifiable since you are giving 10 million people healthcare coverage. Killing 100 million people is justifiable to make a Country utopian. When you make Man god you are inviting evil into the moral fabric.

When we made atheism the national religion we took morality and integrity out of business and gummit. This created a vacuum now replaced by evil and corruption throughout both. You can take any corruption such as Fannie Mae and see the meltdown was caused by people justifying the destruction of the banking industry to make a welfare system for housing. Rather than having people work and earn a house by hard work and savings we replaced it with excuses, lies and theft along w/graft and bribes. There is no longer a value for honor and integrity in business or gummit which is the basis of our corruption problems right now.

Fundamental atheists have twisted the Laws into saying there is a Freedom From Religion when it’s just the opposite a Freedom OF Religion. This means Christians have as much right to worship their God as atheists have to worship their gods. Their gods are the Earth under the cult of Global Warming, gummit the ultimate most powerful man and communism their ultimate gummit. These fundamentalists have used every tactic under the sun to eliminate God from the public and private squares. How many of us have the right not to worship GW? Through MR they can say if one atheist is offended then the Ends justify the Means. To make one atheist comfortable it’s justifiable to make 1000 Christians lose their worship area. To make one atheist happy its justifiable to take the Ten Commandments from the public square destroying the societal foundations. If you need to break every law in the Country to ram through CommieCare the Common Good Justifies the Means. America, it’s time for a change from atheism to the One True Hope in the Name of Jesus Christ. America needs to replace Evil with God to again be, the Lighthouse of Freedom.

Pray for America


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1 posted on 03/10/2010 6:08:20 AM PST by bray
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To: cake_crumb; fight_truth_decay; RottiBiz; auboy; GeorgiaYankee; TomasUSMC; Capt.YankeeMike; ...

enough brayin


2 posted on 03/10/2010 6:12:27 AM PST by bray (Throw All the Bums Out, starting with McCain)
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To: bray

I would think that if atheism was so rampant in our society, then some politician would be running on an atheist platform.


3 posted on 03/10/2010 6:16:44 AM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different)
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To: stuartcr

They are running on an atheist platform, its called socialism.

Pray for America


4 posted on 03/10/2010 6:21:37 AM PST by bray (Throw All the Bums Out, starting with McCain)
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To: bray

You either have to allow atheism in America or force religion on people that don’t want it. Which stance do you think is compatible with the ideas of freedom and self-determination?

Should atheists proselytize to people who don’t want to hear their views? No, and neither should people of faith.


5 posted on 03/10/2010 6:22:29 AM PST by gura (R-MO)
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To: bray
Yes, I understand your mini treatise here, but IMO your error is that you cast us as victims to a renegade, indominitable atheistic force. Rather, it is we, and our parents before us, who have abandoned our first love and allowed the atheist rule to creep in and now nearly overwhelm us. This is the consequences of our idolotry.

If you in fact beleive what you wrote, then you know two immutable facts. First, our Creator reigns supreme and He cannot be overcome. No task is too hard for Him. Second, our home is not here. Therefore, to spend all our energy, focus, and effort to make our lives as comfortable and stress free as possible is a fool's errand.

Peronally, I look to the Laodicean church as our current example of our error. That is, we are neither hot nor cold. Our faith is lukewarm and therefore idolotrus and ugly. I agree with you regarding your diagnosis of what our current state is, but your analysis of why that is is lacking.

We must desperately return to our first love. It is our only hope.

6 posted on 03/10/2010 6:30:31 AM PST by Obadiah (Democrats and their life partners, the MSM)
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To: bray
Contrary to your first couple of posters, I agree with you.

Our Founders felt atheists had no place in our country. In fact, for the first hundred and fifty years or so, atheists were not permitted to testify in courts, for the reasons you cited. They also were prohibited from holding office. (Before someone points out the “no religious test” clause in our various constitutions, our Founders didn't classify simple belief in God as religious; they were talking about denominational discrimination.)

7 posted on 03/10/2010 6:31:49 AM PST by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY (It's the spending, Stupid!)
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To: gura

The atheists have been forcing it on America in the courts and classrooms.

How do you know you don’t want it if you don’t know what a relationship w/Christ is? You happy w/this?

Pray for America


8 posted on 03/10/2010 6:34:58 AM PST by bray (Throw All the Bums Out, starting with McCain)
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To: Obadiah

This is not a renegade force, its organized very well under the banner of communism. It has been done everywhere and the only thing that has slowed it is Christians.

You are exactly right with the rest, the church has become warm spit and needs to have a revival. This is the wrong way, there is only one Hope.

Pray for America


9 posted on 03/10/2010 6:38:19 AM PST by bray (Throw All the Bums Out, starting with McCain)
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To: bray
This is not a renegade force, its organized very well under the banner of communism. It has been done everywhere and the only thing that has slowed it is Christians.

LOL, I don't know of many atheists in Saudi Arabia (or Christians for that matter).

You say that we are organized under the banner of communism? I am a libertarian and most of my fellow atheists I know are libertarians too. We make you Christian conservatives look like pikers in comparison to our support of Freedom. Maybe you should rethink your intolerance a little before posting next time.

10 posted on 03/10/2010 7:06:46 AM PST by LeGrande (The government wants to make a new Government program (Health Care) to fix Medicare and Medicaid.)
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To: bray

I understand your concern and I see the signs of the end all around me. But as A Christian all I can say is that I am not worried. I know Whom I have believed and am persuaded that He is able to keep that which I’ve committed unto Him against that day.


11 posted on 03/10/2010 7:23:14 AM PST by DungeonMaster (A Christian Democrat is better than a heathen Republican)
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To: bray

The war is between the Religion of the God-State, and God.

We know how that one turns out and it ain’t pretty.


12 posted on 03/10/2010 7:32:21 AM PST by Little Ray (The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!)
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To: gura

That’s a straw man if I ever saw one. “Allowing” atheism isn’t the issue. Atheists and atheism are not threatened.
The issue is the creation of a state religion of Atheism and the State-worship which seems to be in the works.


13 posted on 03/10/2010 7:36:13 AM PST by Little Ray (The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!)
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To: LeGrande

Maybe you should rethink who you’re following. Are you truly a Liberaltarian or just a liberal who is a fiscal conservative, oxymoron alert.

If you were so comfortable w/your religion, why do you want to shut me up like every other Fundamentalist Atheist? You should care less what I think if you were true to your belief, but no you have to make sure this message doesn’t spread. What was that you said about FREEDOM??

Pray for America’s Freedom


14 posted on 03/10/2010 7:58:26 AM PST by bray (Throw All the Bums Out, starting with McCain)
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To: LeGrande

LOL, you didn’t find many Christians in the USSR or China either. How did those Atheist Countries turn out. Didn’t know SA was a Christian Country?

Pray for America


15 posted on 03/10/2010 8:23:40 AM PST by bray (Throw All the Bums Out, starting with McCain)
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To: bray
LOL, you didn’t find many Christians in the USSR or China either. How did those Atheist Countries turn out.

China is an overwhelmingly Buddhist country. Russia is overwhelmingly Eastern Orthodox (80% of ethnic Russians) followed by Muslims. Next time you try and make outlandish claims try to get some facts first.

Didn’t know SA was a Christian Country?

I didn't claim it was. It is a God fearing nation nation though that doesn't tolerate Atheists or Christians for that matter.

16 posted on 03/10/2010 8:43:40 AM PST by LeGrande (The government wants to make a new Government program (Health Care) to fix Medicare and Medicaid.)
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To: bray
Maybe you should rethink who you’re following. Are you truly a Liberaltarian or just a liberal who is a fiscal conservative, oxymoron alert.

I think the simplest definition for me would be a Constitutionalist. The founding fathers did a very good job writing it.

If you were so comfortable w/your religion, why do you want to shut me up like every other Fundamentalist Atheist? You should care less what I think if you were true to your belief, but no you have to make sure this message doesn’t spread. What was that you said about FREEDOM??

With Freedom comes accountability. If you aren't personally accountable for your actions we will all lose our Freedom.

Pray for America’s Freedom

Ditto's : )

17 posted on 03/10/2010 8:50:19 AM PST by LeGrande (The government wants to make a new Government program (Health Care) to fix Medicare and Medicaid.)
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To: LeGrande

I do have my facts straight. The churches were closed down in Russia and the entire Communist Party was atheist. Christians were shot and killed or sent to the Gulags. Quit trying to rewrite history. Course the ends justify the means right?

China was not Buddist during Mao but atheist as was he. Buddhism is one of the most brutal cults on the planet as it allowed japanese to exterminate entire cities in the war. Matter of fact the Chinese gummit is trying to bring Christians into their Country to educate businessmen for the very reasons I stated.

As for the SA comment, it is one of the atheists cheapest tricks to equate Mooselimbs to Christians. You made my point. Tell me, which Country has had the most Freedom in history while being a Christian nation? You want to compare Christian Countries to atheist?

Finally, where in my post did I say there should be any National Religion? Another cheap atheist trick taking it to the extreme to devalue the person’s opinion. That MR at work again.

Pray for America’s Freedom from Atheism


18 posted on 03/10/2010 11:15:24 AM PST by bray (Throw All the Bums Out, starting with McCain)
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To: bray
So much ignorance it is hard to know where to start : (

I do have my facts straight. The churches were closed down in Russia and the entire Communist Party was atheist. Christians were shot and killed or sent to the Gulags. Quit trying to rewrite history. Course the ends justify the means right?

The country was always predominantly Eastern Orthodox, the Communists were a minority and most were Eastern Orthodox.

China was not Buddist during Mao but atheist as was he.

China has been continuously Buddhist since Siddhartha's time.

Buddhism is one of the most brutal cults on the planet as it allowed japanese to exterminate entire cities in the war.

Japanese are Shintoists, do you know anything about the religions of the world? Aren't you embarrassed having an Atheist point out extremely elementary facts about Religions and God that you don't have a clue about?

Matter of fact the Chinese gummit is trying to bring Christians into their Country to educate businessmen for the very reasons I stated.

Christian businessman specifically? Are you implying that simple businessmen are being excluded? LOL

As for the SA comment, it is one of the atheists cheapest tricks to equate Mooselimbs to Christians

What is the difference? You, Jews and Moslems all believe in the God of Abraham don't you? If you don't then only the Jews believe in the God of Abraham?

Finally, where in my post did I say there should be any National Religion?

You didn't but your post is about the elimination of Atheism. 'No religion" is constitutionally protected.

Pray for America’s Freedom from Atheism

Obviously you don't want me to be able to follow my belief. You would deny me my freedom if you could. You are a hypocrite.

19 posted on 03/10/2010 11:42:07 AM PST by LeGrande (The government wants to make a new Government program (Health Care) to fix Medicare and Medicaid.)
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To: LeGrande

Nice namecalling, the sign of somebody who has lost the argument.

So your trying to say that USSR and Mao were not atheist gummits. You saying those gummits didn’t and don’t jail Christians or worshipers? You really don’t believe that nonsense do you? Thats as bad as dividing Shinto and Bhuddism, pathetic.

Now document where the Russian gummit was Orthadox and Mao was a Bhuddist. Fact is the Party only had 10% of the people and 100% of the power, all atheists.

Nobody is saying you can’t be an atheist, its just you are showing my post is absolutely correct in your MR. Whatever it takes to stop this thought. None of what you say is true and then you call me names to protect your religion like the Fundamentalist you are.

I tried Atheism its just I didn’t have the Faith you have. Not sure why your wasting so much time on a simple observation unless it has to be destroyed for your belief. You argue the same way all atheists/libs do, lie, apples oranges and call names like hypocrite. Pot/Kettle/Black.

Your condescension is a duly noted even if it isn’t earned. Another evolutionist/global scamming/lib trick.

Now give me an example where an atheist gummit gave more freedom than a Christian gummit. Save the diversions and answer the question.

Pray for America and the end to Atheism


20 posted on 03/10/2010 12:27:17 PM PST by bray (Throw All the Bums Out, starting with McCain)
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