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Posted on 03/10/2010 6:08:20 AM PST by bray

Therefore, this is what the LORD says: You have not obeyed me; you have not proclaimed FREEDOM for your fellow countrymen. Jer 34:17

The main war in America is the secularist/Atheists vs. Christianity. The National Religion of the US is Atheism which is being preached by fundamentalist Atheists every Christmas and Easter. If they’re so comfortable w/their religion why are they so defensive against Christianity. Not only are they forcing the Courts to ban Christians from every public event, they will not tolerate any Christian symbol or thought anywhere outside the Church. Atheism is the foundation of liberalism just as it was in their model utopias Russia, China, Cambodia, Germany and Cuba. There is no morality or ethical code for Atheism since the base of it’s personal ethics is Moral Relativism as we see its damages to this society and economy today.

Atheism has been making strides in its removal of Christianity for the past 50 yrs. We have seen an unending attack on Christians/Catholics since the early 70s. It was really brought to the front lines w/the introduction of Darwin into the classrooms as well as the removal of the Bible. The introduction of evolution was the replacement of the explanation of the creation of mankind from God to Science. Science then became the replacement of God which every communist gummit uses to brainwash its people. Once God is out of the psyche of the people then the most powerful entity is man who is only exceeded by gummit. They won this battle using that scientific tactic of consensus. The entire science world came together and decided evolution was valid and would be the consensus w/o any other possibilities. Science can’t tolerate more than one theory and is fundamental about their cult as we've seen in the Global Warming Fraud.

Christians also follow our beliefs in a strict compliance according to the Bible. We have been far more tolerant than the scientists as some have accepted a middle ground of Intelligent Design which says evolution is an explanation how God created the Earth. Many churches have accepted parts of evolution as their worship even though there are some real weaknesses in the theory. The Church has allowed Atheists to take over the public square to the point of not really having a place w/in that square w/o being attacked or mocked. In the name of tolerance the Christian church has become a meek shadow of a political voice.

The basic foundation of the Judeo Christian religion is the Ten Commandments. This is the set of principles we are to live our lives by. We are required to not only worship God, we also cannot lie, steal, curse or commit adultery. These are ironclad rules to live your lives to form societal glue for trustworthy honorable people. There is no wiggle room to allow for personal discretion which means when someone tells you something it can be trusted to be the truth. The Ten Commandments are the foundation of both societal structure as well as family organization forming a strong societal and business structure.

Atheists have no Commandments, rather they have Moral Relativism which is just the opposite. This is a fluid morality bending whichever wind happens to be blowing. The point of MR is it’s the ultimate Ends Justify the Means. If you can justify a behavior or action then it is morally justifiable. Due to Atheism man becomes the determiner of what is right or wrong which is what is wrong with America now, we have had decades of Man deciding right and wrong. This allows people to lie if its justifiable such as Global Warming, it’s a lie but it is justified to save the Earth. Cooking the data was justifiable since you were saving the earth. Changing the rules in the Senate is justifiable since you are giving 10 million people healthcare coverage. Killing 100 million people is justifiable to make a Country utopian. When you make Man god you are inviting evil into the moral fabric.

When we made atheism the national religion we took morality and integrity out of business and gummit. This created a vacuum now replaced by evil and corruption throughout both. You can take any corruption such as Fannie Mae and see the meltdown was caused by people justifying the destruction of the banking industry to make a welfare system for housing. Rather than having people work and earn a house by hard work and savings we replaced it with excuses, lies and theft along w/graft and bribes. There is no longer a value for honor and integrity in business or gummit which is the basis of our corruption problems right now.

Fundamental atheists have twisted the Laws into saying there is a Freedom From Religion when it’s just the opposite a Freedom OF Religion. This means Christians have as much right to worship their God as atheists have to worship their gods. Their gods are the Earth under the cult of Global Warming, gummit the ultimate most powerful man and communism their ultimate gummit. These fundamentalists have used every tactic under the sun to eliminate God from the public and private squares. How many of us have the right not to worship GW? Through MR they can say if one atheist is offended then the Ends justify the Means. To make one atheist comfortable it’s justifiable to make 1000 Christians lose their worship area. To make one atheist happy its justifiable to take the Ten Commandments from the public square destroying the societal foundations. If you need to break every law in the Country to ram through CommieCare the Common Good Justifies the Means. America, it’s time for a change from atheism to the One True Hope in the Name of Jesus Christ. America needs to replace Evil with God to again be, the Lighthouse of Freedom.

Pray for America


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To: bray
Nice namecalling, the sign of somebody who has lost the argument.

You think calling you ignorant is name calling? I was being polite : ) As a child I liked drowning and resurrecting flies and I suppose this is an adult form of that.

So your trying to say that USSR and Mao were not atheist gummits.

No, I said the people in those countries were Eastern Orthodox Christian and Buddhist respectfully. Reading comprehension is valuable in trying to discuss issues.

Thats as bad as dividing Shinto and Bhuddism, pathetic.

You really couldn't buy a clue if you had too. Shinto is completely unrelated to Buddhism. Buddhism is related to Hinduism for your information, not that I expect it to do you any good.

Nobody is saying you can’t be an atheist, its just you are showing my post is absolutely correct in your MR. Whatever it takes to stop this thought. None of what you say is true and then you call me names to protect your religion like the Fundamentalist you are.

I am truly hurt. I try hard to see the truth and speak it plainly. Sorry if that hurts your feelings : )

I tried Atheism its just I didn’t have the Faith you have.

Faith? You agree with me on all of the Gods out there except for one that you can't define.

Not sure why your wasting so much time on a simple observation unless it has to be destroyed for your belief.

That's funny, I didn't post a thread attacking Christians did I? No! You posted a thread attacking atheists, why do you fear the truth so much?

Now give me an example where an atheist gummit gave more freedom than a Christian gummit. Save the diversions and answer the question.

Hmm, almost all governments were originally based on some kind of belief structure. But I think that you are trying to imply that our government was based on Christianity, sorry, our founding fathers were Deists.

Pray for America and the end to Atheism

It is sad that your priorities are so twisted, Atheists are not your enemy. Many of us have given our lives for the freedoms that you enjoy. Save your ire for people like Obummer, Pelosi, and Reid (So called Christians all) who would take your freedom away from you.

21 posted on 03/10/2010 3:29:28 PM PST by LeGrande (The government wants to make a new Government program (Health Care) to fix Medicare and Medicaid.)
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To: LeGrande
http://www.imtc.gatech.edu/i-irasshai/3/350/350i98/350i98.htm

Little bit about Shinto and Buddhism for what difference it makes to you. There isn't a dimes worth of difference and many of those Japanese were Buddhists which all the new age can be thrown into the Atheist category.

Who cares what the people worship when the gummit is Atheist you are going to have mass murders. You proud of your religion and its ability to murder nearly 200 million people. Yeah, Ill attack that.

Now answer the question you've dodged 3 times. Name one Country that was free under Atheist gummits.

Our Founding fathers were not Deists, another lie. Only one wasn't a Christian and that was Thomas Paine who had a completely messed up life. Washington was a devout Christian who gave his slaves away at death.

Attacked atheism, what a joke playing the old atheist victim card. My guess is your a liberal troll since you argue just like them w/your phony Condescension since you've “evolved” into atheism rather than us unwashed Christians.

Now answer the question, give us an example of an honorable, trustworthy, Free Atheist Country. I can give you a dozen that were communist Death Camps and one is turning now.

Hope I didn't hurt your feelings and this post is directed right at the heart of liberalism/communism. If your offended, well there must be a reason.

Pray for America and the Martyred Church

22 posted on 03/10/2010 4:00:27 PM PST by bray (Throw All the Bums Out, starting with McCain)
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To: bray
Now answer the question you've dodged 3 times. Name one Country that was free under Atheist gummits.

Sadly I can't name a free country, whatever the type of government. The only difference right now among nations is the weight of the chains on the people.

23 posted on 03/10/2010 4:10:30 PM PST by LeGrande (The government wants to make a new Government program (Health Care) to fix Medicare and Medicaid.)
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To: LeGrande
Which is exactly my point isn't it. I looked at your page and it appears that this is what you do all day long. Looking for religious battles to wage your circular arguments. The more Christianity you have the more Freedom you have since this Country was modeled after the Bible.

There is a huge connection between Atheism and lack of freedom if you would look at it objectively. For you and your defensive nature, thats not possible. Atheism is given a priesthood in the religion of liberalism which makes you a fool and a coward. You don't have the courage to be called what Bible Thumping Christians are called in this Country. You get to play both sides of the fence, fiscal conservative and moral lib so your not like those stupid Pro Life Republicans. "Don't worry, I'm an atheist can I still belong?" Why don't you man up and pick a side?

Pray for the Martyred Church

24 posted on 03/10/2010 4:26:46 PM PST by bray (Throw All the Bums Out, starting with McCain)
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Religious fundamentalists like you who would deny others liberty and freedom deserve none.

Freedom and liberty for all, is just that, for all. The reason Blacks and Jews don’t vote for Republicans is because they know that Republicans like you, would take away their rights too if they could.

When our government and way of life finally collapses, know that you were a major cause of it. You have my pity.


25 posted on 03/10/2010 9:17:54 PM PST by LeGrande (The government wants to make a new Government program (Health Care) to fix Medicare and Medicaid.)
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To: LeGrande

There you go agin w/your MR lies. Where did I say you would lose any of your freedom in the same way you would deny ours. See you exaggerate to pretend your the victim when all of us are a victim of your MR and lies. Typical of a way a lib would argue.

Again, point out one atheist Country that has the freedom a Christian Country enjoys? See, its only ok for you to worship the way you want but not Christians and we are seeing our freedoms taken by atheists like obozo.

Even pulled the tired worn old racist card proving you lost the argument, what a fraud you are. Who else on FR is a xenophobe in your eyes? I smell a plant.

You didn’t take your name from LeGrande Green that braindead nutbag did you? He’s the only one that spells it w/an “e”. He’s the only one that would spend all his time bashing Christians all day like you do. Guess the ends justify the means don’t they liar. What is the temp at DNC HQ?

Pray for America


26 posted on 03/11/2010 6:52:51 AM PST by bray (Throw All the Bums Out, starting with McCain)
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To: bray
There you go agin w/your MR lies.

What is MR? Will you please point to a specific 'lie' so that I can call you on it?

Again, point out one atheist Country that has the freedom a Christian Country enjoys?

There are no atheist countries. Your cognitive dissonance seems to hamper your already limited mental process.

Even pulled the tired worn old racist card proving you lost the argument, what a fraud you are. Who else on FR is a xenophobe in your eyes? I smell a plant.

Racist card? When did I claim you were racist? Do you understand that words have meaning?

You didn’t take your name from LeGrande Green that braindead nutbag did you?

I have never heard of Legrande Green.

Pray for America

I had a nice chat with Despator (God of Creation) last night over a drink and asked him if he could do anything about our national deficit and entitlement programs. He just laughed. Does that count as a prayer?

27 posted on 03/11/2010 7:06:06 AM PST by LeGrande (The government wants to make a new Government program (Health Care) to fix Medicare and Medicaid.)
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Ah the old liberal condescension tactic. I pointed out a number of atheist Countries do I have to list them again. Next your going to say those atheist Countries never existed. Or whatever Moral Relative tactic you need next.

All you have to do is point out one atheist gummit that brought freedom to its people. Can’t do it since it doesn’t exist. The two are mutually exclusive as your showing in your tirade.

Racist, people like me chase off the Blacks, no thats not the racist card and you would never do that. Liar.

You spend far too much time on here arguing w/Christians to be a Conservative so go back the the DNC and brag how you got us.

Oh yeah, there is no such thing as a Despator, there is only one True God of the Universe and he ain’t it. You have way more faith than I do to mock him.

Pray for America for Freedom


28 posted on 03/11/2010 7:52:13 AM PST by bray (Throw All the Bums Out, starting with McCain)
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The atheists have been forcing it on America in the courts and classrooms.
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Why do Christians send their children to government schools? Why do Christians agree to fund government schools?

If tomorrow, every Christian removed their child from government schools and refused to send tax dollars to support them, the government schools would be closed within the year.

If Christians demanded that their churches open tuition-free or very low tuition private schools, every child in this nation could have access to an education that was thoroughly integrated with Christian principles.

By the way, I attended government high school in the early 1960s. There was the Lord's Prayer and one scripture verse in the morning homeroom. After that we were subjected to a 100% atheistic and secular worldview. This is like using a water pistol to fight a raging atheistic forest fire.

The secularist dry rot started long, long before the bible was removed from the government schools.

29 posted on 03/11/2010 8:18:14 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid!)
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To: bray
Ah the old liberal condescension tactic. I pointed out a number of atheist Countries do I have to list them again. Next your going to say those atheist Countries never existed. Or whatever Moral Relative tactic you need next.

Ahh, I understand now, you are confusing an atheist leader with an atheist country. There is a difference : )

All you have to do is point out one atheist gummit that brought freedom to its people. Can’t do it since it doesn’t exist. The two are mutually exclusive as your showing in your tirade.

Putin. Russians have more freedom today than we do.

You spend far too much time on here arguing w/Christians to be a Conservative so go back the the DNC and brag how you got us.

When I'm not trading, I do enjoy pointing out the hypocrisy of Christians bashing Mormons. Do you support the bashing of Mormons too?

Oh yeah, there is no such thing as a Despator, there is only one True God of the Universe and he ain’t it. You have way more faith than I do to mock him.

You're an atheist too? I bet there are lots and lots of GODS you don't believe in. Maybe there is hope for you after all : )

Pray for America for Freedom

Despator just called and said our freedom is tits up in 10 years. I asked if he could help us out and he said he already did.

30 posted on 03/11/2010 8:43:36 AM PST by LeGrande (The government wants to make a new Government program (Health Care) to fix Medicare and Medicaid.)
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[You say that we are organized under the banner of communism? I am a libertarian and most of my fellow atheists I know are libertarians too. We make you Christian conservatives look like pikers in comparison to our support of Freedom. Maybe you should rethink your intolerance a little before posting next time.]

Well said.

I have no desire for religion in my life yet I have no desire to preach atheism to others, either. Keeping my nose out of other people’s faith is not only good manners but it’s an ethical imperative for most people - religious or not. My many friends and family who are religious appreciate that I don’t preach atheism to them and I appreciate that they don’t preach religion to me.

But a common thread to most of my friends and family - religious or atheist - is most of us aren’t sympathetic to Marxism, communism, socialism or any other modern derivative of this type of intrusive government thinking.

Genuinely religious people shouldn’t think that atheists are the problem. It’s no more true than for atheists to think that religious people are the problem. We should be united in our common ideological cause against an ever expanding and more powerful government.


31 posted on 03/12/2010 12:13:11 PM PST by spinestein (The answer is 42.)
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