Posted on 03/19/2010 4:56:11 PM PDT by chessplayer
The faith comes from what they've been told, or heard, else they believe, because they actually know and understand the things to some extent.
"Faith is an experience, the evidence of things not seen. It is not a conclusion based on what we see or have heard, or have read."
Just what is this evidence of things unseen? If faith is an experience, then it can not be a belief, because a belief is not an experience. A belief is something held in the mind after some decision processes have occurred. A belief requires conclusions to be drawn. Conclusions regarding value, such as truth, worth, what to do with the new knowledge, how it fits in to ones understanding, ect...
"It goes to our very soul, of who we are and how we view the universe."
Nevertheless it is fundamentally based on testimony.
"We have faith in a lot of things because to have doubts in those things would result in a disruption of our lives."
Faith is based on testimony. One's trust in objects is based on probability, guess, or testimony.
"People have phobias because they have a loss of faith and with that loss of faith comes an irrational belief (i.e., that the elevator is going to fall, the airplane is going to crash, the food is going to kill them, the brakes are going to fail.)"
Phobias are simply irrational fear. Most often, their was only ignorance to begin with.
INDEED! INDEED!
Reminded of the old joke . . .
. . . so . . . who told you that you were Napoleon?
GOD TOLD ME.
When a voice from the next bed said:
“I DID NOT!”
INDEED. WELL PUT.
Someone with a thirst for truth will be humble.
INDEED.
Though, in my experience, I don’t think such pseudo-super-rationalists
are all that INTERESTED IN
removing doubt.
I think they are more interested in throwing rocks at God or sand in His eyes or at least in throwing rocks at
‘those stupid, losers, ignorant, rabid faith walking Believers who are toooooooo crazy to be seen in public with in broad daylight.’
There’s a rot in the soul somewhere that is typically driving such urges to cast aside everything truly rational and life giving for chaff, hollowness, nihilism etc.
And I am the greatest seeker of truth of all time!
PLENTY RIGHT, TO ME, BRO.
God insists . . . accurately to my experience . . .
that HE HAS GIVEN TO EVERY MAN
A MEASURE OF
FAITH.
Some seem to throw that measure in the sewer and then are incredulous that they have insufficient faith with which to apprehend the God of Scripture.
Yet, even those poor pseudo-super-rationalists
CANNOT LIVE AS THOUGH THEIR CONSTRUCTION ON REALITY WAS THE ONLY VIABLE ONE—PARTLY BECAUSE IT’S NOT VERY PRACTICALLY VIABLE AT ALL.
They could not live or have enduring relationships
IF THEY HAD TO LEARN EVERYTHING THE HARD WAY instead of taking what others have learned on faith
. . . instead of going on green lights trusting that others will stop on their red.
. . . instead of drinking the milk from the carton confident that Jihad’s had not poisoned it between the cow and their lips.
. . . instead of trusting, by faith, that their brakes will work on the long down hill side of the mountain.
Thanks for your excellent and well put posts. I quite agree virtually all the time with your posts. Thanks.
I find it interesting that those who reject witness testimony as evidence of something they disagree with, instead depend on the witness testimony of someone’s interpretation of the fossil record, something they DO agree with.
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INDEED.
SOMEONE THEY AGREE WITH . . .
BASED, QUITE HYPOCRITICALLY, ON FAITH—
FAITH IN THE REPORT,
FAITH IN THE PERSON’S DEGREE,
FAITH IN THE PERSON’S INTEGRITY,
FAITH IN THE PERSON’S LOGIC,
FAITH IN THE VETTING OF THE PERSON’S DISSERTATION AND DEGREE,
FAITH IN THE PERSON’S FAITHFULNESS TO WHAT HE OBSERVED IN THE FOSSILE RECORD VS WHAT HE REPORTED THAT HE OBSERVED TO GET PUBLISHED TO GET TENURE.
. . .
Well put.
Though I’m willing to extend Grace . . . most of the time . . . when folks even CLAIM to be Christian and to cling to Jesus.
ITS ALL A CONSPIRACY! BY UFO GOVERNMENT SCIENTISTS WHO WANT TO GLUE DOWN OUR CAP LOCK KEYS!
Go to your lessor god, a trickster of starlight.
FWIW. I have very little faith in science right now. Frankly whenever I read “scientsts say” I assume that whatever follows is horse hockey.
Certainly that’s a fairly consistent phenomena, alright.
Toooooo true these days, alright.
Humble doesn’t necessarily mean without confidence! One who is surrendered to God is supremely confident because He’s all powerful, even if I am weak.
Funny about that, it seems to be going around.
Between the AGW nonsense, the beating evolution is taking, rampant fraud and fixing data in scientific reports, and the fraud peer review is being exposed as, it's small wonder you've become a *heretic*, you primitive, ignorant, cretard you......
How dare you critique the self-important, self-appointed elite who are guiding us along the path of true knowledge and enlightenment....
You will be banished to the back room of McD's to spend the rest of your life serving burgers to your betters for that.
LOL.
Wellllllllllll, that would likely be better for a while . . .
than being ground up and fed to those poor killer whales by the environmentalists for some crazy reason.
We’re supposed to genuflect to Scientists. They have PhDs and do Experiments.
I admit my sin, I do not feel awe and reverence towards them or their ever-shifting Doctrines.
They are merely workers, like any other workers, only as a class seem more arrogant, more deceitful and more immoral than most people.
Good grief spunkets, what are you talking about?
As written, it sounds like a bunch of "hyper-rationalistic" jibberish to me....
Could you try again — please put that statement in plain English?
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