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Army Surgeon Refuses All Military Orders Until Obama Proves He Is a Natural Born Citizen
Family Security Matters ^ | March 31, 2010 | Margaret Hemenway

Posted on 03/31/2010 4:22:43 AM PDT by captjanaway

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To: halfright

50$ US says you is wrong.


61 posted on 03/31/2010 7:23:49 AM PDT by bvw
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009
"I bet Obama ‘ll solve this in 5 minutes by reaching in his back pocket and pulling out his long form BC."

I can only hope that was sarcasm...

I can't believe all the supposed conservatives who rant on about the BC -- as if it were the final solution.

With -- or without -- a US LFBC, Øbozo is ineligible -- unless he lied about who his father is.

Frankly, I believe that many who claim the BC is the solution are DemShills touting it as a smokescreen to hide the fact that -- no matter where he was born, Øbozo's claimed parentage makes him NOT NATURAL BORN!!!

62 posted on 03/31/2010 7:52:00 AM PDT by TXnMA (D'Aleo re Hansen's "GISS" temperature database: "Non Gradus Anus Rodentum!")
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To: captjanaway

Ooops! Your thread; should have courtesy-pinged you in #62...


63 posted on 03/31/2010 7:55:00 AM PDT by TXnMA (D'Aleo re Hansen's "GISS" temperature database: "Non Gradus Anus Rodentum!")
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To: captjanaway

After 20 years of service I had to provide my BC to verify citizenship. Why can’t he?


64 posted on 03/31/2010 7:55:34 AM PDT by rfreedom4u (Should I fly my flag at half staff now?)
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To: captjanaway

Obama cannot release his birth certificate until he, and his lackeys have convinced the public that:

Birth in the US = Natural Born Citizenship (NOT!)

(When that occurs it, will magically appear in the Oval Office just like Hillary’s billing records...LOLOLOLOL)

We already know he is not a NBC because in his book “Dreams of My Father” he claims a Kenyan, Barack Obama Sr, as his father. A patently disqualifying circumstance.....Sorry Barry you need 2 US citizen parents.

Obama wouldn’t lie to us in his book would he? /s

Besides, when he applied for, and recieved, a Fulbright Scholarship ( (for foriegn students) didn’t he affirm his adoption to Leto Soetoro, and his subsequent Indonesian Citizenship?

This action, intended to “game” the system for college funds, has the consequence of Barry effectively renouncing his citizenship by the oath on the Scholarship application.......Oh the tangled webs we weave when first we practice to deceive.....


65 posted on 03/31/2010 8:05:39 AM PDT by Forty-Niner ((.))
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Not under Obamacare!

Courts Martial may mean that he loses his military pension.... This guy has all the guts I expect from our Officer Corps....... He deserves our respect and support....


66 posted on 03/31/2010 8:12:08 AM PDT by Forty-Niner ((.))
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To: BallyBill

“I hope this is a joke. I never heard of anyone refusing orders till their commander proves anything to them.” Bally Bill

Agreed....It’s almost as rare as having a President that does not meet the Constitutional requirements of the office!


67 posted on 03/31/2010 8:27:47 AM PDT by Forty-Niner ((.))
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To: raybbr

Maybe LtCol Larkin is prescient?


68 posted on 03/31/2010 8:30:31 AM PDT by Forty-Niner ((.))
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To: faucetman

Read up on the law of nations and parentage especially Father determines citizenship.

see http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2009/08/law-of-nations-and-not-english-common.html

It is a matter of upholding law or ignoring it.


69 posted on 03/31/2010 8:31:29 AM PDT by DCmarcher-976453 (SARAH PALIN 2012)
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To: Forty-Niner
Courts Martial may mean that he loses his military pension.... This guy has all the guts I expect from our Officer Corps....... He deserves our respect and support....

He sure does ... and more.

70 posted on 03/31/2010 8:39:03 AM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Grut

Ever heard of the Chain of Command? All orders effectively originate from the Commander in Chief.

There is a reasonable doubt that Obama meets the constitutional requirements for the office of President of the United States. (actually more towards a moral certainty...)

The Nuremburg Trials post WWII outlined the requirement to question orders illegaly issued......


71 posted on 03/31/2010 8:41:18 AM PDT by Forty-Niner ((.))
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To: faucetman

Except that the McCains were in Panama at the order of the US goverment, and therefore any place they were was under the jurisdiction of the US... Big difference there friend!

The Senate Resolution echoed US case law (see Perkins v Elg USSC) that places more emphasis on parentage, and thereby upbringing in American values only, than mere place of birth in the determination of NBC....

Won’t you agree that a child’s upbringing in American traditions, history, mores, laws, patriotism, etc. by 2 US citizen parents is the most important aspect of the the constitutional requirements for the highest office in the land? Isn’t that concept what the Founders were trying to convey in the Requirements for CIC?

Question ..... if the childern of US Military personal born overseas due to the assignment of their parents by the US Goverment are ineligible to hold the highest office in the land where will we get the personel to man these outposts given that negitive impact on their childrens lives?

Tell me, does John McCain remember his birth in Panama, and does that effect his thinking to that done by the typical Panamanian (Un- US American?) as opposed to thoughts of a typical American born and raised in the US?


72 posted on 03/31/2010 9:22:07 AM PDT by Forty-Niner ((.))
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To: valkyry1

Obama’s website during the 2008 election accepted posts by the general public..... the short form Certificate, a proven fraudulent document, was not put on that website by Obama or people in his campaign. It was posted by someone from the general public....

It therefore, serves two purposes:

1) to the casual observer it is proof of birth in Hawaii....therefore citizenship (flawed because it lists an African, Barack Obama Sr, as the father....therefore, prima facia non NBC, the requirement for President, not mere citizenship)

2) It provides deniability when exposed as a fraudulent document, WE never put that up it was an outsider......and allows Obama to produce another doctored document to a public weary of the issue...... see Alinsky Rules for Radicals.

I believe that Obama’s strategy has always been to morp the term NBC into mere citizenship in the minds of the public and thereby nullify the Requirements of the Constitution for the office of the President..... I, for one, am not willing to go there!

There will be many more patriots willing to sacrifice their careers/lives in exposing this fraud and correcting the Constitutional Crisis. I perfer to honor him, rather than denigrate his sacriface.....LtCol Larkin does this in full realization of the potential consequences......

Raise ya a nickel!


73 posted on 03/31/2010 9:53:38 AM PDT by Forty-Niner ((.))
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To: Forty-Niner

Hey I hear you but if the public servants abandon us (and it looks like they have) there is not much hope on this.


74 posted on 03/31/2010 10:06:56 AM PDT by valkyry1
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To: valkyry1

Lt Col Larkin has not abandoned us.... there will be others that will stand up to this Obamanation! They deserve our support....


75 posted on 03/31/2010 10:16:32 AM PDT by Forty-Niner ((.))
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To: lwd
Kind of off topic but does anyone know if military recuiting numbers are up or down under 0bama? I’d imagine less people are willing to sign up to serve under him.

Doesn't appear to be the case.

A Historic Success In Military Recruiting; In Midst of Downturn, All Targets Are Met

The desire to have a job probably has more to do with this than the desire to serve under Obama.

76 posted on 03/31/2010 10:39:35 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: captjanaway

Obama Says Tea Party Is Built Around Core Group of Birthers (Video)

http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2010/03/obama-says-tea-party-is-built-around-core-group-of-birthers/

Maybe we should take a good look at Obama’s eligibility to be president…….
The Obama Files
http://www.theobamafile.com/index_next_eligibility.html

What is Obama hiding?
Why Can Obama Keep College Papers Hidden
http://www.scribd.com/doc/17682329/Why-Can-Obama-Keep-College-Papers-Hidden


77 posted on 03/31/2010 10:42:20 AM PDT by Jonah Vark (Any 5th grader knows that the Constitution declares the separation of powers. President Obama, get)
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To: DCmarcher-976453
McCain was determined by the Senate to be NBC

Actually, McCain was determined by Chairman of the Judicial Committee Patrick Leahy (D-VT), Obama acolyte Claire McCaskill (D-MO), Tom Coburn (D-OK), Hillary Clinton (D-NY), and our boy, Barack Obama (D-IL), to be a "natural born" citizen.

Leahy's rational -- "Because he was born to American citizens, there is no doubt in my mind that Senator McCain is a natural born citizen." -- got that -- citizens -- that's two, or both parents.

The source of this information is Sen. Leahy's own website.  The webpage contains a statement about the resolution; the resolution, itself; the Statement Of Senator Patrick Leahy; and an excerpt of Sec. Chertoff's testimony.

Secretary Chertoff said, in testimony before the Judicial Committee, "My assumption and my understanding is that if you are born of American parents, you are naturally a natural-born American citizen."

And, here's the big one. Chairman Leahy responded, "That is mine, too. Thank you."

The plural word "parents" is used four times.  When used to identify the parents, the word "citizens" is used five times.  That's nine times that Sen. Leahy, on his own website describes the eligibility requirement.  There is NO PLACE in any of these four documents where the singular case of "parent" or "citizen" is used.

My favorite is that Obama signed the resolution, so he understands he's ineligible. Either that or he's dumber than I think he is.

Now for the real issue.

What did McCain promise to do to receive this imprimatur from the leftiest of the left wing Democratic senators less than 7 months before the 2008 election?

IMO, now you know why McCain didn't go after Obama's eligibility, Rev. Wright, Bill Ayers and the rest of the dirtbags that have one degree of separation from the Obamamessiah.

The honorable John McCain made a very dishonorable deal.

78 posted on 03/31/2010 10:58:49 AM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: ASA Vet
It's about getting and having a security clearance.

A lot of things have changed in the past 60 years, but during my hitch as a "Korean conflict" draftee I can't recall ever having to produce a birth certificate, even to get my DOD secret clearance, and I know there were investigations done around home in connection with that. There were some strange things in the 201 file though, including the statement that I had completed 16 weeks Infantry basic . . . the fact being that it was really 5 weeks and one day of Signal Corps basic, about equivalent to a good Boy Scout Jamboree. I'm not saying that President O should not show his, though. I hope the LTC's court martial will force some action in that direction.

79 posted on 03/31/2010 11:22:13 AM PDT by 19th LA Inf
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To: halfright

I do admire him but look what happened to the last guy that tried this. Obama changed his orders to not deploy him and then didn’t he get fired?


80 posted on 03/31/2010 11:54:51 AM PDT by freebird5850 (O-Bomba is not the Messiah. Jesus was a carpenter and could build a cabinet!)
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