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Ron Paul: Why didn’t the north just buy the south’s slaves and free them that way? (Insults Lincoln)
Hot Air ^ | 3-31-10 | Hot Air.com Staff

Posted on 03/31/2010 3:04:35 PM PDT by TitansAFC

Ron Paul: Why didn’t the north just buy the south’s slaves and free them that way?

Getting down to the last two questions here…. Most people consider Abe Lincoln to be one of our greatest presidents, if not the greatest president we’ve ever had. Would you agree with that sentiment and why or why not?

No, I don’t think he was one of our greatest presidents. I mean, he was determined to fight a bloody civil war, which many have argued could have been avoided. For 1/100 the cost of the war, plus 600 thousand lives, enough money would have been available to buy up all the slaves and free them. So, I don’t see that is a good part of our history.....

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To: SoConPubbie

They won’t show up it meal time in the Rubber Room.


21 posted on 03/31/2010 3:10:35 PM PDT by Clyde5445 (Gov. Sarah Palin: :"You have to sacrifice to win. That's my philosophy in 6 words.")
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To: Persevero
Maybe all the slaveholders weren’t willing to sell.

Of course they weren't willing to sell. Slaves were the labor force for the south. AND even if slaveowners had sold their slaves to the north, what would stop them from buying more? Ron Paul is an idiot who couldn't think his way out of a paper bag.

22 posted on 03/31/2010 3:10:45 PM PDT by hsalaw
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To: CondorFlight

But RuPaul won the CPAC straw poll - he must be a strong conservative! Right?


23 posted on 03/31/2010 3:11:14 PM PDT by newfreep (Palin/DeMint 2012 - Bolton: Secy of State)
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To: TitansAFC

Because the Civil War wasn’t really about slavery.....


24 posted on 03/31/2010 3:11:33 PM PDT by Osage Orange (A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity. - Sigmund Freud)
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To: Clyde5445
They won’t show up it meal time in the Rubber Room.

Either that, or coordinating the next false attack on Sarah.
25 posted on 03/31/2010 3:11:50 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: TitansAFC

Every time I think about starting to like Ron Paul he opens his yap and says something really dumb...


26 posted on 03/31/2010 3:11:50 PM PDT by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: TitansAFC
The slave owners would have loved that - since it wouldn't have ended slavery - and been a real “cash crop” - we'd still be “buying” slaves.

Heck, it would probably have started a whole new scheme - Hey, you become my slave, I'll sell you and we can split the money.”

27 posted on 03/31/2010 3:12:01 PM PDT by maine-iac7
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To: CondorFlight

I stand corrected. It appears that the North did offer to buy them.

Okay, there is now no thread of sanity on this quote from him.


28 posted on 03/31/2010 3:12:31 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Hypocrisy: "Animal rightists" who eat meat & pen up pets while accusing hog farmers of cruelty.)
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To: TitansAFC

29 posted on 03/31/2010 3:12:34 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Entitlements will do to America what drugs eventually do to addicts)
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To: TitansAFC

Sure I’ll sell you my slaves then go buy me some new younger stronger ones.

Is he really this stupid?


30 posted on 03/31/2010 3:13:51 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: TitansAFC

Maybe Ron Paul should suggest that the US buy the world’s supply of cocaine, heroine, and marijuana and disband the drug enforcement agencies?

Call it fiscally conservative and put an end to the “drug war” and the “war on drugs.”


31 posted on 03/31/2010 3:14:18 PM PDT by onyx (Facts don't matter. Proof not required. Anything goes! Racial slurs, death threats.....)
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To: Jim Robinson

-—”Sometimes you just have to fight for freedom.”-—

Amen, brother, amen!

I just got a real belly laugh at this one, since the Paulistinians have been smearing Palin with incomplete quotes, half-contexted statements, and wild assumptions.

They’re never going to live down the fact that Ron Paul just came out against the Civil War. LOL


32 posted on 03/31/2010 3:14:27 PM PDT by TitansAFC (The Left does not devote so much effort into attacking Sarah Palin because she's a weak candidate.)
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To: TitansAFC

Ron Paul can’t think beyond the end of his nose. Slavery would have still been legal. We would have been buying the same men & women 25 times over. It took a war to end slavery.


33 posted on 03/31/2010 3:14:28 PM PDT by HD1200
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To: TitansAFC

Buying the slaves is not very practical, but there is a lot that most conservatives need to learn about Lincoln.

See, e.g., The Real Lincoln, by Thomas J. DiLorenzo.

From one review of the book:

Description This is the book that made it happen: the nationwide revision concerning the man who they tried to tell us was a great liberator. Dictator and slayer of liberty is more like it. Lincoln was not the godlike figure of myth and legend but an unusually cruel political operator who exploited the moment for personal gain, just as we’ve come to expect of modern politicians.
In this blockbuster, Thomas DiLorenzo calls for a complete rethinking of a central icon of American historiography. He looks at the actions and legacy of Abe Lincoln from an economics point of view to show that Lincoln’s main interest was not in opposing slavery but in advancing mercantilism, inflationism, and government spending: the “American system” of Henry Clay.

Through extensive historical investigation, DiLorenzo shows that the high tariff pushed by Northern industries, at the expense of Southern agriculture, was the main cause of the sectional conflict. Further, Lincoln’s goal in preventing Southern secession was the consolidation of federal power and the collection of revenue, not the elimination of slavery. Introduction by Walter Williams.

Barron’s says: “More than 16,000 books have already been written about Abraham Lincoln. But it took an economist to get the story right. The Real Lincoln, by Loyola College economics prof Thomas J. DiLorenzo, is this year’s top pick in [Gene Epstein’s] sixth annual review of Holiday Gifts that Keep on Giving, When It’s the Thought that Counts.”

ISBN 0761526463


34 posted on 03/31/2010 3:14:36 PM PDT by Buchal ("Two wings of the same bird of prey . . .")
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To: Persevero
May all the slaveholders weren’t willing to sell.

They could have passed a law .....

35 posted on 03/31/2010 3:15:00 PM PDT by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: TitansAFC

The North thought the war would be over in 3 months, IIRC.
Neither side forsaw the length and bloodiness.


36 posted on 03/31/2010 3:15:10 PM PDT by dynachrome (Barack Hussein Obama yunikku khinaaziir!)
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To: TitansAFC
Well, part of the South being a sovereign nation was so that they could continue to own slaves. We didn't need to amend the Constitution, the Supreme Court could have ruled the practice of owning American-born slaves un-Constitutional. If this was done, the States would have still illegally seceded and there probably still would have been an attack on a Federal Fort.

I think the War was all about slavery. The population of slaves was higher then freemen in many States, the agrarian economy was clearly built on slave labor in many communities.
37 posted on 03/31/2010 3:15:28 PM PDT by ATX 1985 (Time is Breath, Breath is Light, Light is Life)
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To: Jim Robinson

Yes, thank you for saying it.


38 posted on 03/31/2010 3:15:52 PM PDT by Truthsearcher
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To: TitansAFC

Ron obviously knows little about the period. I just finished my second reading of Shelby Foote’s 3000+ page opus.

Lincoln made repeated attempts to get the South, or the border states, to free their slaves with compensation.

He couldn’t get traction for it, not even in his own cabinet. It’s highly unlikely northern people would have been willing to tax themselves to compensate slaveholders. For some obscure reason people are always more willing to fund a war than an effort to prevent one. Sort of along the same line there’s never time to do it right, but always enough time to do it over.

BTW, his numbers are wildly off. Official US government estimate in 1879 is that the war cost a little over $6B. 1% of that, per Ron, would be $60M.

There were 4M+ slaves in 1860. I doubt the owners would have been willing to sell at $15 each. Average price, if I remember correctly, was somewhere between $500 and $1000, which would add up to somewhere around 50% of the cost of the war, not <1%.


39 posted on 03/31/2010 3:16:31 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: TitansAFC
Couldn't pay them off alll at once..still under contract til a certain age Ron.
40 posted on 03/31/2010 3:16:46 PM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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