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You Have the Right to Remain Silent (LT Colonel Lakin Read His Rights)
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Posted on 04/13/2010 8:19:14 AM PDT by Man50D

Washington, D.C., April 13, 2010. Army doctor Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin yesterday met with his brigade commander, Col. Gordon R. Roberts, who proceeded to read LTC Lakin his Miranda rights, and who informed LTC Lakin he had the “right to remain silent” because LTC Lakin is about to be charged with serious crimes. Col. Roberts was at age 19 awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor, the only recipient of the nation’s highest honor currently on active duty in the Army.

LTC Lakin had previously been ordered in writing to report yesterday to Ft. Campbell, KY and then on to deploy for his second tour of duty in Afghanistan. Lakin refused to obey these orders and instead came to work yesterday morning at the Pentagon. Late yesterday afternoon he was confronted by his brigade commander.

Before the meeting was over, LTC Lakin’s Pentagon Access Pass had been revoked, and his laptop computer was set to be confiscated.

The message to LTC Lakin is clear; through official channels, he was informed yesterday that he will shortly be court-martialled for crimes (specifically, missing movement and conduct unbecoming an officer) that for others has led to lengthy imprisonment at hard labor.

Lakin has announced in a YouTube video that has now been viewed more than 110,000 times that he considers it his duty to refuse to obey orders that would be illegal if President Obama is ineligible to hold office.

Meanwhile, cries mount for proof of that eligibility, but nothing has been forthcoming. The Obama campaign at one point released a copy of computer-generated abstract of information purportedly in Hawaii's records system, but the source of this information is unclear and need not have been a birth certificate issued contemporaneously and signed by the doctor who attended the birth. Even the document released was only a copy, and the version printed in the Los Angeles Times on June 16, 2008 is on a form only in use since late 2001. Even as it is, the document contains a warning that it is merely “prima facie”--threshold, rebuttable and thus inconclusive --evidence of birth, and the copy the Times printed mysteriously has the certificate number blacked out, thereby rendering the document unusable according to language on the bottom.

Given the seriousness of the offenses with which LTC Lakin is about to be charged, the American Patriot Foundation today renewed its plea for donations to its legal defense fund for LTC Lakin. Details are available at APF's website, www.safeguardourconstitution.com


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: army; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; lakin; military; naturalborncitizen; obama; terrencelakin
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To: etraveler13
There are claims that a parent cannot expatriate a child’s U.S. citizenship, however, this is not correct.

Perhaps. Unfortuantely for you, there is no provision of the 1952 act under which Obama would have been expatriated.

Renewing an Indonesian Passport after the age of 18 is an affirmative act,

Yes, but unfortunately for you, there's no evidence he ever had an Indonesian Passport, let alone renewed one.

as you are swearing allegiance to another Country.

Which he never did.

Soetoro/Obama renewed his Indonesian Passport when he traveled to Pakistan, that is why he had to stop in Indonesia first.

Prove it.

Remember, in 1981, Dunham was divorcing Soetoro in Hawaii and was not in Indonesia. Obama/Soetoro admits to traveling to Indonesia first and then onto Pakistan.

So?

Soetoro/Obama claims in his book “Dreams from my father” that he stopped in Indonesia to visit his mother. But again, his mother was not in Indonesia, she was in Hawaii with Maya, divorcing Lolo Soetoro.

Divorces don't need to be filed in person, especially if they are uncontested. She most likely mailed in the papers from Indonesia.

In addition, the State Department has stated in response to a FOIA request that they do not have a U.S. Passport application on file for Barack H. Obama.

I very much doubt it. Source please.

1,201 posted on 04/19/2010 1:11:05 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: etraveler13
I don’t believe he is a naturalized citizen. Personally I belive he is an illegal alien.

Yes, I understand that birtherism is a religion, and that is part of your creed. Unfortunately, you have no evidence to back up this belief of yours.

I do not believe that there is a document to be found. That is why he is sealing everything.

Obama didn't seel anything. All the records birthers complain they can't see are protected by privacy laws that apply to everyone.

I stated that AT THE VERY BEST... which presumes that he came back to the US and reapplied for citizenship denounced his Indonesian citizenship

Why would he denounce a citizenship he never had to begin with?

denounced his British citizenship

Why would he have to denounce something he lost automatically when he was in his early 20's?

I think he got his education with student visas from Indonesia and travelled under an Indonesian passport

Allegations for which you have no evidence.

Illegally changed his name from Barry Soetoro to Barak Obama

You have no evidence he ever legally changed his name to Soetoro, let alone he "illegally" changed it back.

I don’t care if you believe me, it is my own investigation and satisfies only me. Don’t like it? Tough.

I know. You will believe what you believe, evidence be damned. As I said, birtherism is a religion.

1,202 posted on 04/19/2010 1:18:38 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: curiosity
Uhh..yes it can. Scanners can be set to add a white border. On some scanners that is the default setting.

Feel free to document this with a link. The border around the alleged COLB is not the same width all the way around and not the same color. A digitally added border would be. Sorry, but this claim fails. Plus, you can see the shadow of the edge of the document in the scan. The document in the factlack photos doesn't match.

1,203 posted on 04/19/2010 1:18:48 PM PDT by edge919
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To: etraveler13
It is in the court system now. Berg is pursueing it at his speed not yours, and I pretty much guarantee that he does not give a cr!p about what you might or might not think.

I'm sure he doesn't, since it's the judges' opinions, not mine, that matter. Unfortunately, no judge seems to have thought his cases had any merit, and I suspect he will continue to find them to be of this opinion as he continues filing his frivolous suits.

Circumstantially, it makes sense to believe that Berg has heard the recording, and as such has proceeded with it.

IMHO, it doesn't make much sense to believe anything coming out of the mouth of a guy who thinks 9-11 was an inside job.

The fact that you have not heard it, means nothing.

Apparently, no one has heard it except Berg and his client, which doesn't inspire much confidence. Good luck convincing anyone with that kind of evidence.

Feel free to find definitive proof that this was never said, like a statement by Michelle Obama, reported by API.

LOL. You're asking me to prove a negative. Let me give you a little lesson in logic. The burden of proof is on the one who makes a positive assertion that something happened, not on the person who would deny it.

1,204 posted on 04/19/2010 1:34:45 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: etraveler13
For your first statement, it is obvious to anyone that reads the judges dismissal statements that the cases are not being dismissed because of the merits, but technicalities.

Failure to prefect service is a technicality, standing is merit.

His father is not a US citizen, therefore Obama is not a Natural born citizen, therefore he does not meet the qualifications for the office. Period.

That is an opinion, not a fact.The majority of voters knowing that his father was not a US citizen voted for him believing him to be a NBC. Congress certified the vote without objection.

Just because a car thief steals a car, Possession does not equal Ownership. The fact that the thief has eluded the police, or they do not pursue him, does not make him less guilty, or NOT a thief....you ken?

In this case, to continue your analogy, Obama not only has the car, but also the bill of sale, and the pink slip issued to him from the DMV.

1,205 posted on 04/19/2010 6:57:00 PM PDT by lucysmom
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To: etraveler13
African Press International (API) claims to have audio recordings of Michelle Obama in a bigoted rant against “American bloggers” and anti-Obama media outlets (Fox?).

That story was so thoroughly discredited, dead and buried, I'm truly surprised to see it resurface.

Last I heard, Sammy claimed George W had the tapes.

1,206 posted on 04/19/2010 7:05:38 PM PDT by lucysmom
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To: lucysmom

Really? I have done quite a bit of searching.
Since you seem to have a definitive answer on the subject, would you be so kind as to post a link from API, Obama, a credible news source that says so?
I appreciate it.
E...


1,207 posted on 04/20/2010 9:56:14 AM PDT by etraveler13
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To: lucysmom

Lady, in the age of photoshop fake bill of sales are common. I have a nephew conned by one. If the car was stolen, that stolen status is not remedied by tricking the DMV into issuing a ‘legit’ title.


1,208 posted on 04/20/2010 10:00:10 AM PDT by bvw
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To: lucysmom

Failure to prefect service is a technicality, standing is merit.


Evidently, you did not read the link I posted. Indeed Standing is a tool used to NOT hear a case, it is a technicality used successfully to stop a case from proceeding.
Merit, on the other hand, or Merits of a case, are facts or circumstantial evidence that warrant exploration to get to the truth of a matter. It follows that if a case is not heard BECAUSE of a technicality (Like Standing), the Merits of the cas cannot be explored.

The FACT that Barak Obama Sr is Barak Obama II/Barry Soetoro’s father is admitted in the two books by BHO/BS, the divorce decree from Obama and his wife. This is his father.
Based on the outcome, it is apparent that the Majority of the people who voted for Obama were duped. They believed that Nancy Pelosi, and the DNC, and Howard Dean, head of the DNC, as well as every Secretary Of State of each of States also vetted the President elect, it was also assumed that our representative in Washington, and the VP did their jobs. It was not an issue that the public is responsible to resolve. That will never happen again, I bet.
It is ignorant to make the statement that those who voted for Obama knew he was constitutionally ineligable. If those who were responsible to properly Vett his had done their job, he would not have been on the Democratic Ballot, and you know it.

In my analogy, he stole the car, is a thief, and has not been arrested yet, but will be, its a matter of time.


1,209 posted on 04/20/2010 10:07:24 AM PDT by etraveler13
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To: curiosity

It is in the court system now. Berg is pursueing it at his speed not yours, and I pretty much guarantee that he does not give a cr!p about what you might or might not think.
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I’m sure he doesn’t, since it’s the judges’ opinions, not mine, that matter. Unfortunately, no judge seems to have thought his cases had any merit, and I suspect he will continue to find them to be of this opinion as he continues filing his frivolous suits.


No case has been heard on its merits thus far. So your opinion is speculation at best.

Circumstantially, it makes sense to believe that Berg has heard the recording, and as such has proceeded with it.
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IMHO, it doesn’t make much sense to believe anything coming out of the mouth of a guy who thinks 9-11 was an inside job.

It appears that you also seem to believe that you shoot the messenger, and ignore the message.

Feel free to find definitive proof that this was never said, like a statement by Michelle Obama, reported by API.
***
LOL. You’re asking me to prove a negative. Let me give you a little lesson in logic. The burden of proof is on the one who makes a positive assertion that something happened, not on the person who would deny it.

I showed you where it was stated, provided a link, and even the Attorney pursuing it. You stated that it was not true. You have answered my informtion with an opinion. I asked you to substantiate that opinon with more credible evidence. That sir, is debate. You are correct that the burden of proof is on the person making the assertion, which is you, that it is not true. Its your turn to state that it was JUST an opinion, or back up your words with credible evidence. Either one is fine with me.


1,210 posted on 04/20/2010 10:15:10 AM PDT by etraveler13
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To: curiosity

I don’t believe he is a naturalized citizen. Personally I belive he is an illegal alien.
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Yes, I understand that birtherism is a religion, and that is part of your creed. Unfortunately, you have no evidence to back up this belief of yours.


So your saying I am a birther? Your wrong. I am a constitutionalist. And you have no evidence that he is a Natural Born Citizen, as there is not Birth Certificate provided by Obama, and he has sealed all of the Evidence from the American People. Yet, you seem fine with that??

I do not believe that there is a document to be found. That is why he is sealing everything.
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Obama didn’t seel anything. All the records birthers complain they can’t see are protected by privacy laws that apply to everyone.

Incorrect. Proof of citizenship for the purpose of Vetting a President of the United States is Required per the constitution. The head of the Democratic National Convention and its Secretary must confirm this and write a statement to that effect to the Secretaries of State of each of the states. The Secretaries of States for each of the States are required to investigate each candidate they place on the ballot, and the BC is required for Presidential candidates to confirm NBC status. Finally the Vice-President who presides over the congress for the purpose of counting electoral votes take a final call for objections prior to counting electoral college votes.
So your wrong.

I stated that AT THE VERY BEST... which presumes that he came back to the US and reapplied for citizenship denounced his Indonesian citizenship
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Why would he denounce a citizenship he never had to begin with?

It is my OPINION, that he was adopted by Lolo Soetoro, it is circumstantial at this point. What is not at issue, is that he is the Son of Barak Hussien Obama Sr. Which makes him a dual citizen, which is not permitted for the office of President of the United States.

denounced his British citizenship
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Why would he have to denounce something he lost automatically when he was in his early 20’s?

Since you seem to admit this. You have also just admitted that he is a dual Citizen. Which cannot become President Of the United States...case closed.

I think he got his education with student visas from Indonesia and travelled under an Indonesian passport
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Allegations for which you have no evidence.

What part of “I think” don’t you understand?

Illegally changed his name from Barry Soetoro to Barak Obama
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You have no evidence he ever legally changed his name to Soetoro, let alone he “illegally” changed it back.

Actually, ancillary evidence has been posted from his elementary school in Indonesia listing him as Barry Soetoro, and the rules that govern Indonesia at the time did not allow dual citizenship, he had to be adopted. Also the divorce decree from Soetoro, listed an adult child needing Educational Assistance. Which was Barry Soetoro.

I don’t care if you believe me, it is my own investigation and satisfies only me. Don’t like it? Tough.
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I know. You will believe what you believe, evidence be damned. As I said, birtherism is a religion.

Again, I have more evidence, evidently that you, circumstantial and fact based that leads me to my conclusions. You seem to be all over the place.
As I said previously, I am a constitutionalist, but wonder if you know the difference between the two. If not, you need to educate yourself.


1,211 posted on 04/20/2010 10:29:50 AM PDT by etraveler13
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To: curiosity

There are claims that a parent cannot expatriate a child’s U.S. citizenship, however, this is not correct.
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Perhaps. Unfortuantely for you, there is no provision of the 1952 act under which Obama would have been expatriated.


If you read enough to ask the question, you read the legal brief, that explained it. I reread the post and the answer it there for anyone to read.

Renewing an Indonesian Passport after the age of 18 is an affirmative act,
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Yes, but unfortunately for you, there’s no evidence he ever had an Indonesian Passport, let alone renewed one.

Obama travelled in to Pakistan and Indonesia at 19 years old, which required a passport(Visa), it is known that he did not have a US passport until he became a Senator for Illinois. So he either has a Kenyan (british) passport, or he has an indonesian passport. Which lends one to believe that he is not a US citizen, or he would have travelled with a US Passport. That is called deductive reasoning.

as you are swearing allegiance to another Country.
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Which he never did.

Under the law, if he renewed or applied/recieved a passport from another country, you reaffirm your citizenship.

Soetoro/Obama renewed his Indonesian Passport when he traveled to Pakistan, that is why he had to stop in Indonesia first.
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Prove it.

The use of the passport proves it, I don’t have to.

Remember, in 1981, Dunham was divorcing Soetoro in Hawaii and was not in Indonesia. Obama/Soetoro admits to traveling to Indonesia first and then onto Pakistan.

So?

Since he went there first, then to pakistan, one would use deductive reasoning to conclude that he was updating his passport after his 18th birthday, prior to travelling, which is required in Indonesia.

Soetoro/Obama claims in his book “Dreams from my father” that he stopped in Indonesia to visit his mother. But again, his mother was not in Indonesia, she was in Hawaii with Maya, divorcing Lolo Soetoro.
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Divorces don’t need to be filed in person, especially if they are uncontested. She most likely mailed in the papers from Indonesia.

Actually, her signature is on the divorce decree and it is notarize (witnessing the signature) from a notary in Hawaii, so she was there for the divorce proceeding. The pettitioner has to be in court, but the respondent (Soetoro) does not. Been there, done that.

In addition, the State Department has stated in response to a FOIA request that they do not have a U.S. Passport application on file for Barack H. Obama.
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I very much doubt it. Source please.

The posting was from Attorney Berg. However the fact that Obama never got a US Passport before becomeing a US State Senator is a matter of Public Record.
Then there is Michelle Obama’s statement the Kenya is her husbands HOME Country.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLDHDfPNBME


1,212 posted on 04/20/2010 10:53:24 AM PDT by etraveler13
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To: curiosity

Did you even read the link?
It is a tactic used often to Not hear cases.
Proof in point Obama vs. Keyes. As a result of Obama being in the election Alan Keyes lost the election. That is direct harm, tangible harm, arising from the actions of Obama running for Illinois State Senate. That is STANDING per your definition. Yet the judge chose not to hear it.
Arbitrary use of judical power for its own means.


1,213 posted on 04/20/2010 10:56:27 AM PDT by etraveler13
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To: etraveler13

You have uncurious dissected, vivisected, filleted and dismembered.

Of course, he’ll be back saying the same crap, that’s what 0bummer toady suckups do.

You should save your replies and post ‘em next time he regurgitates the same idiocies.


1,214 posted on 04/20/2010 11:31:14 AM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: etraveler13
As a result of Obama being in the election Alan Keyes lost the election.

ROFLOL. Can you actually say that with a straight face?

If you actually believe that Keyes would have won, or even snowball's chance in hell of winning the election, Obama or no Obama, then I've got a bridge to sell you.

1,215 posted on 04/20/2010 11:47:08 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: curiosity

You are entitled to your opinon on how the Senatorial Race would have concluded if Obama had not run, but it would have been JUST an opinion.
The question was establishing STANDIND, which by definition Alan Keyes did establish.


1,216 posted on 04/20/2010 11:49:06 AM PDT by etraveler13
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To: etraveler13

Pardon me...STANDING...


1,217 posted on 04/20/2010 11:49:49 AM PDT by etraveler13
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To: etraveler13
You are entitled to your opinon on how the Senatorial Race

Keyes was trying to establish sanding based on his losing his 3rd party bid for the the 2008 presidential race, not the 2004 Senate race. Not even Keyes questions Obama being eligible for the Senate.

The question was establishing STANDIND, which by definition Alan Keyes did establish.

So you say. Unfortunately, every single judge who has ruled on the matter disagrees with you, and it is their opinion, no yours, that matters.

1,218 posted on 04/20/2010 11:56:42 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: etraveler13
If you read enough to ask the question, you read the legal brief, that explained it. I reread the post and the answer it there for anyone to read.

I have. Unfortunately for you, there is simply no basis under the law at that time for Obama to have been expatriated.

Obama travelled in to Pakistan and Indonesia at 19 years old, which required a passport(Visa),

Right. And a US passport would have been just fine.

it is known that he did not have a US passport until he became a Senator for Illinois.

I don't believe you. Prove it.

So he either has a Kenyan (british) passport, or he has an indonesian passport. Which lends one to believe that he is not a US citizen, or he would have travelled with a US Passport. That is called deductive reasoning.

True. Unfortunately, deductive reasoning can lead you to a false conclusion if your premise is wrong. In this case, it is the premise that he travelled on some passport other than a US passport. You have exactly zero evidence to back that up.

The use of the passport proves it, I don’t have to. Since he went there first, then to pakistan, one would use deductive reasoning to conclude that he was updating his passport after his 18th birthday, prior to travelling, which is required in Indonesia.

Logic does not support that conclusion. You have absolutely no basis to believe he ever had an Indonesian passport, much less renewed one in that year.

Soetoro/Obama claims in his book “Dreams from my father” that he stopped in Indonesia to visit his mother. But again, his mother was not in Indonesia, she was in Hawaii with Maya, divorcing Lolo Soetoro.

Actually, you've got your dates wrong. She divorced Lolo in 1980 and filed the divorce papers in the summer of that year. Obama traveled to Indonesia and Pakistan in 1981, so the story that he stopped in Indonesia to visit his mom fits, even if she filed her papers in Hawaii in person.

The posting was from Attorney Berg.

In orther words, you have no evidence other than the word of a known liar and conspiracy theorist.

However the fact that Obama never got a US Passport before becomeing a US State Senator is a matter of Public Record.

Please direct me to this public record. I have yet to see it.

Then there is Michelle Obama’s statement the Kenya is her husbands HOME Country. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLDHDfPNBME

And what, exactly, is that supposed to prove?

1,219 posted on 04/20/2010 12:05:12 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: curiosity

Which reaffirms my point that STANDING is arbitrary. No one disputes he was harmed. Keyes vs. Obama, and Lightfoot vs. Bowen clearly show to me the refusal to hear the merits of the case when standing was established. The court decided that standing can be reinterpreted by the judge as they see fit.


1,220 posted on 04/20/2010 12:13:59 PM PDT by etraveler13
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