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what slam-dunk “evidence” has been uncovered since a year ago Pray tell, what is YOUR "slam-dunk evidence"? Ah, that's right ... good old “reliable” FactCheck. LOL
However, after seeing Obama in action for the last 16 months,
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Posted on 04/13/2010 8:19:14 AM PDT by Man50D
Washington, D.C., April 13, 2010. Army doctor Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin yesterday met with his brigade commander, Col. Gordon R. Roberts, who proceeded to read LTC Lakin his Miranda rights, and who informed LTC Lakin he had the “right to remain silent” because LTC Lakin is about to be charged with serious crimes. Col. Roberts was at age 19 awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor, the only recipient of the nation’s highest honor currently on active duty in the Army.
LTC Lakin had previously been ordered in writing to report yesterday to Ft. Campbell, KY and then on to deploy for his second tour of duty in Afghanistan. Lakin refused to obey these orders and instead came to work yesterday morning at the Pentagon. Late yesterday afternoon he was confronted by his brigade commander.
Before the meeting was over, LTC Lakin’s Pentagon Access Pass had been revoked, and his laptop computer was set to be confiscated.
The message to LTC Lakin is clear; through official channels, he was informed yesterday that he will shortly be court-martialled for crimes (specifically, missing movement and conduct unbecoming an officer) that for others has led to lengthy imprisonment at hard labor.
Lakin has announced in a YouTube video that has now been viewed more than 110,000 times that he considers it his duty to refuse to obey orders that would be illegal if President Obama is ineligible to hold office.
Meanwhile, cries mount for proof of that eligibility, but nothing has been forthcoming. The Obama campaign at one point released a copy of computer-generated abstract of information purportedly in Hawaii's records system, but the source of this information is unclear and need not have been a birth certificate issued contemporaneously and signed by the doctor who attended the birth. Even the document released was only a copy, and the version printed in the Los Angeles Times on June 16, 2008 is on a form only in use since late 2001. Even as it is, the document contains a warning that it is merely “prima facie”--threshold, rebuttable and thus inconclusive --evidence of birth, and the copy the Times printed mysteriously has the certificate number blacked out, thereby rendering the document unusable according to language on the bottom.
Given the seriousness of the offenses with which LTC Lakin is about to be charged, the American Patriot Foundation today renewed its plea for donations to its legal defense fund for LTC Lakin. Details are available at APF's website, www.safeguardourconstitution.com
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what slam-dunk “evidence” has been uncovered since a year ago Pray tell, what is YOUR "slam-dunk evidence"? Ah, that's right ... good old “reliable” FactCheck. LOL
However, after seeing Obama in action for the last 16 months,
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Arguably, those cases are not applicable here because they deal with adjective defects in the appointment or designation process.
The situation with Obama is different because the Constitution says that he is not eligible to hold the office of President at all; doesn’t make any difference how he got there or what bases he touched or didn’t touch along the way.
He isn’t a de facto officer because part of the fact is missing. You could certify all day that he was a citizen; or born in the US; that is a part of the office and if he wasn’t a citizen or wasn’t born in the US, he isn’t the officer.
The photos clearly show there's a signature on the COLB.
> “And somehow this is relevant...why?” <
Exactly my thought. What the hell does that fact have to do with anything?
Sheesh!
Dude, you pinged me. Or somebody did. There’s not a lot I have to say on this. Like I wrote on another thread, I suspect the Army is going to come down hard on Lakin after the criticism it got on the Mooselimb Killer at Ft. Hood thing. I am curious how Lakin ended up going down this dead-end road.
parsy, who hopes one day Lakin will spill the beans
> “I call BS on this. The Colonel would have read LTC Lakin his Article 32 (investigation) rights under the UCMJ, not Miranda.” <
I retired 14 years ago but if I remember correctly one is read their Article 31 Rights.... check out and google the UCMJ.
The Article 32 Investigation is for the presentation of evidence that a violation of the UCMJ has allegedly occurred.
If there are allegations of violations then the case will be referred for Trial by Court-martial.
The prosecution has to prove BO’s eligibility to prove his NBC status. Then it’s a slam dunk, Larkin would be guilty. Isn’t it up to the prosecution to find the defendant guilty? Surely, we can’t argue that Barry wasn’t born, so onto the next step - a step they will NOT attempt.
Because they won’t go to the next step, they ‘claim’ the defendant guilty. They win by default and NOT by proof or TRUTH!
Legally, they would not have to “prove” anything....but, if they want to get a conviction....they will need to get that LONG-FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE.....they use that bogus COLB from Hawaii....the prosecutors will be embarassed out of their JAG careers
Lakin’s court-martial will be among a jury of his peers. Which means other officers (unless Lakin were to request non-commissioned officers...which I do not think he will do). Officers are less likely to convict a fellow officer....especially if it appears that the defendant officer is being treated unfairly
There are few courts-martial of officers....mainly because getting a conviction on an officer (especially the higher the rank) is tough. Lakin will probably have a lawyer much more experienced in military courts than the prosecution will have.....esp in the Washington DC area.
Well, allow me to better explain myself.
Based on my personal research of historical documents, I don’t believe Obama fits the definition of a natural born citizen as intended by our Founding Fathers. (However, IANAL, so if the SCOTUS heard a case on the merits and ruled Obama eligible, I would accept their decision.)
Outside of Obama portraying himself as a natural born citizen, he is not a fraud, IMHO. He has been very up front with the American people about what he planned to do when he because president. So he’s not a fraud in that sense. He’s everything he advertised himself to be: an American-hating, Marxist thug, who doesn’t respect the Constitution, doesn’t think America has gone far enough to distribute social justice, redistribute wealth, etc. etc. etc. He said he wanted to fundamentally change this nation and he has started down that path, has he not?
Make more sense? When I say I don’t think he’s a fraud, I really mean that I think he’s true to his character and advertized intentions.
No, I meant join us regarding comment # 406
No they won't, any more than they would have had standing to demand the same thing of any other President.
There are three bodies competent and entitled to pronounce on this question: 1) The electorate; 2) The electoral college; 3) The Special Joint Session of Congress.
All three affirmed Obama's qualifications, and that's that.
There is no court in the land which will grant standing to anyone, and LTC Lakin is going to prison.
No, Factcheck is not a credible source. If you are basing your argument on this there is no point in pursuing this discussion further.
I just saw that. I’m flipping back and forth between Beck and Chris Matthews so I am not sure how much play the issue is getting. I wonder how quickly this will progress in military system and if Lakin will be in the brig until trial.
parsy, who sees the trains headed for each other—one a big huge diesel job, and from the other side, Thomas the Tank Engine. . . .
No, they won't. They don't have to get a thing, do a thing, or prove a thing.
All they have to do is take testimony from LTC Larkin's commanding officer documenting his orders, and LTC Larkin will be convicted and punished.
LTC Larkin has no right of action which is recognized by either the UCMJ or the US Constitution, and his sacrifice accomplishes exactly zero.
You can fully expect Mr Rogers to brush off your post since it presented facts that he prefers to ignore. So I will post it again for him to choke on.
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/15127
If he was not committing fraud, then there is no explanation for his hiding/deleting/scrubbing all documentation of his entire life.
No other explanation. Period. And there is so much that is very, very questionable, no need to even list here.
A couple of photos show what looks like a signature stamp on the back of a COLB. There's not enough of the document in the picture to tell if it is the same document alleged to be Obama's COLB.
Note I said "sane" judge. The chain of logic is simple. Did officer disobey and order?? Yes...Was the order legal??...If Obama fails the Constitutional test, no.
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