Posted on 04/13/2010 8:19:14 AM PDT by Man50D
How do you know he even read it, let alone was "fine" with it? The UPI isn't exactly the most widely-read wire out there.
Just like other stories that have been printed over the years were never corrected until it turned out these were incosistent with the current Obama myth.
All the stories birthers cite were printed in obscure outlets, like UPI, that few people read or take seriously.
Sorry captain oblivious, but the factcheckers probably found it was consistent with what they were told was true.
Told by whom?
Obama has changed his story
No he did not. I defy you to find a single instance in which he or any member of his family ever claimed birth at Queens hospital.
As far as I can tell, there are only three outlets that made that error: Wikipedia, a high school student newsletter, and UPI. In none of these cases is Obama quoted, nor is he listed as the source of the information behind the error.
Adoption verified:
“He was registered under the name of Barry Soetoro, serial number 203. The school registration document identifies Barry Soetoro as an Indonesian citizen and his religion was identified as Islam.
This registration document, made available on Jan. 24, 2007, by the Fransiscus Assisi school in Jakarta, Indonesia, shows the registration of Barack Obama under the name Barry Soetoro into the Catholic school made by his step-father, Lolo Soetoro.”
http://theobamafile.com/ObamaEducation.htm
Have you got any evidence of that?
Not so fast. The pictures weren't taken later, but earlier. The camera data establishes they were taken in March, three months before the COLB was posted anywhere. The document in the photographs doesn't match the document scanned and posted by Obama. Factlack scrubbed the camera data, so they have undermined any integrity.
Of course not, because in order to do that they'd need to see the physical copy of it, which they don't have and I don't think Obama is going to bother sending it them just to satisfy people like you.
No, they should be able to verify all the information contained on it, starting with the certificate number. So far, they've not verified anything.
However, Hawaii has verified that their official vital records show he was born in Hawaii. That's good enough to prove birth in the state for virtually any purpose.
No, they said they saw unknown documents that allegedly verifiy Obama was born in Hawaii, but not the original birth certificate. Such a statement has no legal weight without documentation and certification.
They have admitted no such thing.
They certainly did.
Any eligibility problems he might have exist only in the minds birthers and truthers.
Nonsense. If this were true, you wouldn't be posting repeatedly trying to disprove the problems.
None of which proves he was adopted.
Right. Obama just randomly started using his new father's last name.
Here you go:
A United Press International report from Nov. 4, 2008 states:
“Obama described his birth at Queen’s Medical Center in Hawaii Aug. 4, 1961...”
A screen shot (necessary as things like this tend to go missing from news archives) can be viewed here:
http://www.safeguardourconstitution.com/the-hard-facts.html
Scan down the page a bit till you see Barry’s photo.
Hopefully, you won’t let your lack of curiosity hold you back again from finding the truth.
So? I don't see why the timing concerns you. It's also possible that the digital camera's internal calendar wrong. That's happened to mine, and I haven't bothered fixing it.
The document in the photographs doesn't match the document scanned and posted by Obama.
Seems to match fine to me.
Factlack scrubbed the camera data, so they have undermined any integrity.
Sorry. I don't see the relvance.
No, they should be able to verify all the information contained on it, starting with the certificate number. So far, they've not verified anything.
They verified the birthplace, which is all that matters for the purposes of eligibility.
No, they said they saw unknown documents that allegedly verifiy Obama was born in Hawaii, but not the original birth certificate. Such a statement has no legal weight without documentation and certification.
Sure it does. The state vital record is definitive. What do you think you get when you request a birth certificate? Chances are all you'll get is a state-certified computer printout of information that's in the state's datbase. That's all I got when I requested by daughter's BC, and it was good enough to get her a passport.
They certainly did. Nonsense. If this were true, you wouldn't be posting repeatedly trying to disprove the problems.
The only reason I'm bothering to post here is because I think the birther movement is hurting conservatives.
Right. Obama just randomly started using his new father's last name.
It's not unheard of for step children to use their step father's last name, even if they weren't legally adopted. In fact, I've know people who did this.
That's not a direct quote from Obama, and there's no indication in the story that the reporter got the name of the hospital from Obama. Later UPI explicitly admitted that the hospital name was the reporter's error.
What is your point?
Official school document refers to “step father”. Go ahead and disprove it and I’ll listen.
So?
Go ahead and disprove it and I’ll listen.
I'm not sure what I'm supposed to disprove.
Please post a link regarding the reporter’s mistake.
Birth boy could settle this by showing us a birth document that says what hospital had the privilege. Then you could graduate from nitpicking to something more useful like nose picking.
A true blue American hero. May The LORD bless him and help him and us also by His mercy and grace through Jesus Christ our LORD.
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2008/11/04/Sen-Barack-Obama-Democrat-of-Illinois/UPI-33901225647000/
If you scroll down to the bottom, you will see this:
"(This item was corrected July 8, 2009, to fix the name of the hospital where Obama was born. The original item incorrectly identified the facility as Queen's Hospital, an error made by the writer.)"
Birth boy could settle this by showing us a birth document that says what hospital had the privilege. Then you could graduate from nitpicking
Nitpicking? Sorry, my friend, but you're projecting. I'm not the one fretting about the identity of the hosptial, which last time I checked isn't relevant to presidential eligbility.
I could care less which Hawaii hospital has been stated by BO or his family. Maybe the reporter made a mistake and maybe the reporter was told to say it was a mistake. To me, it is moot as I don’t believe it was either hospital. He’s not a natural born citizen no matter which hospital it was - anywhere on the planet.
You keep doing your job and we’ll keep digging. The truth IS going to come out no matter how much nitpicking you do. And if you had any sense, you would realize that having the truth about this guy come out is the best way this crisis can end.
You seem to be taking quite an interest in it here.
To me, it is moot as I don’t believe it was either hospital. He’s not a natural born citizen no matter which hospital it was - anywhere on the planet.
So why the obcession about the name of the hospital and the long-form birth certificate?
I read your profile page and though you profess to be a conservative, say you are not a fan of Obama and something about “birthers” just inspires you to be an active after birther, I am not buying it. You post like a troll and I am done feeding you. It just gets boring like running around in a circle.
Curiosity;
This is per the Occidental College Website. Here is the link again:
http://www.oxy.edu/x8270.xml
Or maybe it means that his name was never legally changed to begin with.
http://articles.latimes.com/2008/nov/10/sports/sp-crowe10
What his fellow ballers don’t seem to recall, however, is whether Obama played for the Tigers in a more formal capacity, as a former coach insists and the media have reported, and no tangible proof seems to exist that he did.
No photos showing the skinny teenager in short shorts.
No roster.
No box score.
No score book.
No mention in the school paper.
Nothing has been found, school spokesman Jim Tranquada says.
Basketball Coach Brian Newhall, who enrolled at Occidental the same year as Obama, says Obama does not appear in the JV team photo from the 1979-80 season, when Newhall and the future leader of the free world were freshmen.
Obama, he says, was his starting small forward in the 1979-80 season
I read the article. I'm not sure I understand the significance. What about it, exactly, do you find so insightful?
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