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You Have the Right to Remain Silent (LT Colonel Lakin Read His Rights)
Safe Guard Our Constitution ^

Posted on 04/13/2010 8:19:14 AM PDT by Man50D

Washington, D.C., April 13, 2010. Army doctor Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin yesterday met with his brigade commander, Col. Gordon R. Roberts, who proceeded to read LTC Lakin his Miranda rights, and who informed LTC Lakin he had the “right to remain silent” because LTC Lakin is about to be charged with serious crimes. Col. Roberts was at age 19 awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor, the only recipient of the nation’s highest honor currently on active duty in the Army.

LTC Lakin had previously been ordered in writing to report yesterday to Ft. Campbell, KY and then on to deploy for his second tour of duty in Afghanistan. Lakin refused to obey these orders and instead came to work yesterday morning at the Pentagon. Late yesterday afternoon he was confronted by his brigade commander.

Before the meeting was over, LTC Lakin’s Pentagon Access Pass had been revoked, and his laptop computer was set to be confiscated.

The message to LTC Lakin is clear; through official channels, he was informed yesterday that he will shortly be court-martialled for crimes (specifically, missing movement and conduct unbecoming an officer) that for others has led to lengthy imprisonment at hard labor.

Lakin has announced in a YouTube video that has now been viewed more than 110,000 times that he considers it his duty to refuse to obey orders that would be illegal if President Obama is ineligible to hold office.

Meanwhile, cries mount for proof of that eligibility, but nothing has been forthcoming. The Obama campaign at one point released a copy of computer-generated abstract of information purportedly in Hawaii's records system, but the source of this information is unclear and need not have been a birth certificate issued contemporaneously and signed by the doctor who attended the birth. Even the document released was only a copy, and the version printed in the Los Angeles Times on June 16, 2008 is on a form only in use since late 2001. Even as it is, the document contains a warning that it is merely “prima facie”--threshold, rebuttable and thus inconclusive --evidence of birth, and the copy the Times printed mysteriously has the certificate number blacked out, thereby rendering the document unusable according to language on the bottom.

Given the seriousness of the offenses with which LTC Lakin is about to be charged, the American Patriot Foundation today renewed its plea for donations to its legal defense fund for LTC Lakin. Details are available at APF's website, www.safeguardourconstitution.com


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: army; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; lakin; military; naturalborncitizen; obama; terrencelakin
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To: edge919
Whether they are or aren't, Obama was evidently fine with the story

How do you know he even read it, let alone was "fine" with it? The UPI isn't exactly the most widely-read wire out there.

Just like other stories that have been printed over the years were never corrected until it turned out these were incosistent with the current Obama myth.

All the stories birthers cite were printed in obscure outlets, like UPI, that few people read or take seriously.

Sorry captain oblivious, but the factcheckers probably found it was consistent with what they were told was true.

Told by whom?

Obama has changed his story

No he did not. I defy you to find a single instance in which he or any member of his family ever claimed birth at Queens hospital.

As far as I can tell, there are only three outlets that made that error: Wikipedia, a high school student newsletter, and UPI. In none of these cases is Obama quoted, nor is he listed as the source of the information behind the error.

1,141 posted on 04/16/2010 2:17:16 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: curiosity

Adoption verified:

“He was registered under the name of Barry Soetoro, serial number 203. The school registration document identifies Barry Soetoro as an Indonesian citizen and his religion was identified as Islam.

This registration document, made available on Jan. 24, 2007, by the Fransiscus Assisi school in Jakarta, Indonesia, shows the registration of Barack Obama under the name Barry Soetoro into the Catholic school made by his step-father, Lolo Soetoro.”

http://theobamafile.com/ObamaEducation.htm


1,142 posted on 04/16/2010 2:31:58 PM PDT by Natural Born 54 (FUBO x 10)
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To: Natural Born 54
Yes. I'm aware of the document. I don't see how it proves he was adopted.
1,143 posted on 04/16/2010 2:36:44 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: etraveler13
Name changed in 1981 (illegally) at 21 years old.

Have you got any evidence of that?

1,144 posted on 04/16/2010 2:38:16 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: curiosity
He later allowed factcheck researchers to take and post on the interntet unredacted photos of the same document.

Not so fast. The pictures weren't taken later, but earlier. The camera data establishes they were taken in March, three months before the COLB was posted anywhere. The document in the photographs doesn't match the document scanned and posted by Obama. Factlack scrubbed the camera data, so they have undermined any integrity.

Of course not, because in order to do that they'd need to see the physical copy of it, which they don't have and I don't think Obama is going to bother sending it them just to satisfy people like you.

No, they should be able to verify all the information contained on it, starting with the certificate number. So far, they've not verified anything.

However, Hawaii has verified that their official vital records show he was born in Hawaii. That's good enough to prove birth in the state for virtually any purpose.

No, they said they saw unknown documents that allegedly verifiy Obama was born in Hawaii, but not the original birth certificate. Such a statement has no legal weight without documentation and certification.

They have admitted no such thing.

They certainly did.

Any eligibility problems he might have exist only in the minds birthers and truthers.

Nonsense. If this were true, you wouldn't be posting repeatedly trying to disprove the problems.

None of which proves he was adopted.

Right. Obama just randomly started using his new father's last name.

1,145 posted on 04/16/2010 2:41:12 PM PDT by edge919
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To: curiosity

Here you go:

A United Press International report from Nov. 4, 2008 states:

“Obama described his birth at Queen’s Medical Center in Hawaii Aug. 4, 1961...”

A screen shot (necessary as things like this tend to go missing from news archives) can be viewed here:

http://www.safeguardourconstitution.com/the-hard-facts.html

Scan down the page a bit till you see Barry’s photo.

Hopefully, you won’t let your lack of curiosity hold you back again from finding the truth.


1,146 posted on 04/16/2010 2:43:38 PM PDT by Natural Born 54 (FUBO x 10)
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To: edge919
Not so fast. The pictures weren't taken later, but earlier. The camera data establishes they were taken in March, three months before the COLB was posted anywhere.

So? I don't see why the timing concerns you. It's also possible that the digital camera's internal calendar wrong. That's happened to mine, and I haven't bothered fixing it.

The document in the photographs doesn't match the document scanned and posted by Obama.

Seems to match fine to me.

Factlack scrubbed the camera data, so they have undermined any integrity.

Sorry. I don't see the relvance.

No, they should be able to verify all the information contained on it, starting with the certificate number. So far, they've not verified anything.

They verified the birthplace, which is all that matters for the purposes of eligibility.

No, they said they saw unknown documents that allegedly verifiy Obama was born in Hawaii, but not the original birth certificate. Such a statement has no legal weight without documentation and certification.

Sure it does. The state vital record is definitive. What do you think you get when you request a birth certificate? Chances are all you'll get is a state-certified computer printout of information that's in the state's datbase. That's all I got when I requested by daughter's BC, and it was good enough to get her a passport.

They certainly did. Nonsense. If this were true, you wouldn't be posting repeatedly trying to disprove the problems.

The only reason I'm bothering to post here is because I think the birther movement is hurting conservatives.

Right. Obama just randomly started using his new father's last name.

It's not unheard of for step children to use their step father's last name, even if they weren't legally adopted. In fact, I've know people who did this.

1,147 posted on 04/16/2010 2:52:22 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: Natural Born 54
Yeah, I know about that. I've seen that screen shot many times.

That's not a direct quote from Obama, and there's no indication in the story that the reporter got the name of the hospital from Obama. Later UPI explicitly admitted that the hospital name was the reporter's error.

What is your point?

1,148 posted on 04/16/2010 2:55:47 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: curiosity

Official school document refers to “step father”. Go ahead and disprove it and I’ll listen.


1,149 posted on 04/16/2010 2:55:49 PM PDT by Natural Born 54 (FUBO x 10)
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To: Natural Born 54
Official school document refers to “step father”.

So?

Go ahead and disprove it and I’ll listen.

I'm not sure what I'm supposed to disprove.

1,150 posted on 04/16/2010 3:00:45 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: curiosity

Please post a link regarding the reporter’s mistake.

Birth boy could settle this by showing us a birth document that says what hospital had the privilege. Then you could graduate from nitpicking to something more useful like nose picking.


1,151 posted on 04/16/2010 3:08:26 PM PDT by Natural Born 54 (FUBO x 10)
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To: Man50D
The court martial heard around the world!!!

A true blue American hero. May The LORD bless him and help him and us also by His mercy and grace through Jesus Christ our LORD.

1,152 posted on 04/16/2010 3:10:26 PM PDT by Bellflower (If you are left DO NOT take the mark of the beast and be damned forever.)
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To: Natural Born 54
Please post a link regarding the reporter’s mistake.

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2008/11/04/Sen-Barack-Obama-Democrat-of-Illinois/UPI-33901225647000/

If you scroll down to the bottom, you will see this:

"(This item was corrected July 8, 2009, to fix the name of the hospital where Obama was born. The original item incorrectly identified the facility as Queen's Hospital, an error made by the writer.)"

Birth boy could settle this by showing us a birth document that says what hospital had the privilege. Then you could graduate from nitpicking

Nitpicking? Sorry, my friend, but you're projecting. I'm not the one fretting about the identity of the hosptial, which last time I checked isn't relevant to presidential eligbility.

1,153 posted on 04/16/2010 3:14:17 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: curiosity

I could care less which Hawaii hospital has been stated by BO or his family. Maybe the reporter made a mistake and maybe the reporter was told to say it was a mistake. To me, it is moot as I don’t believe it was either hospital. He’s not a natural born citizen no matter which hospital it was - anywhere on the planet.

You keep doing your job and we’ll keep digging. The truth IS going to come out no matter how much nitpicking you do. And if you had any sense, you would realize that having the truth about this guy come out is the best way this crisis can end.


1,154 posted on 04/16/2010 3:44:01 PM PDT by Natural Born 54 (FUBO x 10)
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To: Natural Born 54
I could care less which Hawaii hospital has been stated by BO or his family.

You seem to be taking quite an interest in it here.

To me, it is moot as I don’t believe it was either hospital. He’s not a natural born citizen no matter which hospital it was - anywhere on the planet.

So why the obcession about the name of the hospital and the long-form birth certificate?

1,155 posted on 04/16/2010 4:44:33 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: curiosity

I read your profile page and though you profess to be a conservative, say you are not a fan of Obama and something about “birthers” just inspires you to be an active after birther, I am not buying it. You post like a troll and I am done feeding you. It just gets boring like running around in a circle.


1,156 posted on 04/16/2010 5:06:34 PM PDT by Natural Born 54 (FUBO x 10)
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To: curiosity

Curiosity;
This is per the Occidental College Website. Here is the link again:
http://www.oxy.edu/x8270.xml


1,157 posted on 04/16/2010 7:17:34 PM PDT by etraveler13
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To: etraveler13
...since Obama was Adopted, retained his adopted name Barry Soetoro, there is not indication that he asked for or was granted a legal name change BACK to Barak Obama.

Or maybe it means that his name was never legally changed to begin with.

1,158 posted on 04/16/2010 7:47:29 PM PDT by lucysmom
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To: etraveler13

http://articles.latimes.com/2008/nov/10/sports/sp-crowe10

What his fellow ballers don’t seem to recall, however, is whether Obama played for the Tigers in a more formal capacity, as a former coach insists and the media have reported, and no tangible proof seems to exist that he did.

No photos showing the skinny teenager in short shorts.

No roster.

No box score.

No score book.

No mention in the school paper.

Nothing has been found, school spokesman Jim Tranquada says.

Basketball Coach Brian Newhall, who enrolled at Occidental the same year as Obama, says Obama does not appear in the JV team photo from the 1979-80 season, when Newhall and the future leader of the free world were freshmen.

Obama, he says, was his starting small forward in the 1979-80 season


1,159 posted on 04/16/2010 8:26:21 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: etraveler13
This is per the Occidental College Website

I read the article. I'm not sure I understand the significance. What about it, exactly, do you find so insightful?

1,160 posted on 04/16/2010 10:44:32 PM PDT by curiosity
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