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Are You Seeing a Recovery (Green Shoots?) Where You Live?? (Open Question to Freepers)
quesney

Posted on 04/15/2010 8:05:22 AM PDT by quesney

What are you seeing in your neck of the woods? Are business conditions getting better -- or worse -- for you and the people you know? Any concrete details? And what are you expecting over the next year?


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To: quesney

Montana’s kinda like ten or fifteen seconds after the train wreck at the edge of a great big cliff.

....the first impact was pretty bad, but that crump coming looks like a real mutha.


61 posted on 04/15/2010 9:06:39 AM PDT by Unrepentant VN Vet (1010 and a wakeup)
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To: quesney

Where I live the question is kind of pointless: Riley County, Kansas, the county the recession forgot. Of course, Manhattan, KS is a government town, the Ft. Riley and Kansas State U. as its main “industries”, soon to pick up NBAF and another Federal lab dealing with arthropod-borne illnesses. (Still, at least government around these parts is the part of government us conservatives can support—national defense, and one of the several states providing for the education of its populace.)


62 posted on 04/15/2010 9:13:58 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: quesney

No


63 posted on 04/15/2010 9:20:43 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: quesney

I am seeing more engineering and construction proposals for refinery and petrochemical plants, new and upgrades. Most are outside the US. A couple are to disassemble an existing US facility and move it to South America.


64 posted on 04/15/2010 9:27:53 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: quesney

All of the Domino’s Pizza stores in my area have disappeared. Word is the franchise owner forgot to pay his license. A good friend lost her job a few days ago after 20+ years with a major health insurance firm in our area.

Yep, the economy is booming around here.


65 posted on 04/15/2010 9:34:15 AM PDT by Darnright (There can never be a complete confidence in a power which is excessive. - Tacitus)
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To: quesney

My county- Lyon County in N Nevada was the fastest growing county in 2004-2005.

It is now the county with the worst conditions when they combine all the indicators: unemployment is over 20%—and that is the amount they will admit to. I think it is over 25%.
The foreclosures are higher than anywhere else, and the empty houses that are subject to further desicration by the local druggies and criminals are being sold for about $75,000 with 4.77 acres of land. Same homes went for $180,000 4 years ago. Most of them were brand new, also.
Nevada has one of the highest forclosure stats in the country.

There is no sign of anything getting better here. Wood Truss company that took 2 years to get permits, etc, and get environmental reports to satisfy the greenies closed already, barely after it opened. Was supposed to bring in 160 jobs.
Fernley has a large Amazon location- and they are talking about closing down. Trex is also there with a large operation, but with no construction, that is quiet and trying to hold on.
Fallon closed a metal truss company on April l that had been there for years...90 jobs lost.
Harry Reid trying to take water from ranchers in Fallon- Yerington-Smith Valley. He wants to trade the water rights to Los Angeles for the water LA gets from the Colorado River. There is absolutely no way to get this other source of water to LA...no pipeline or infrastructure.
Yerington/Mason Valley produces over $100 million worth of alfalfa & onions.

Think you don’t need alfalfa?
Your Dairy cow does- and lots of people use milk, butter, cream, etc.

It would cost $400,000 +++ to rebuild what I have here for sale, and I have people telling me they will give me $150,000 or so for a horse property that is fully turn kay & set up for 12 horses in separate paddocks/pens, etc.


66 posted on 04/15/2010 9:39:17 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: maggief

The only “greenshoots” are in the employment of government Census workers.”

I gave them the minimum answers-—can’t wait until they try to come on to my POSTED property here in N Nevada and try to coherce me into more answers.

Even the fed Marshalls need a local sheriff with them to enter a property in Nevada.


67 posted on 04/15/2010 9:42:14 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Casinos in Lake Tahoe are empty”

A couple of long time casinos in S Lake Tahoe are closed-—with absolutely no idea when they will resume business.

At the same time, the TRPA-Tahoe Regional Planning Authority—has now passed a new regulation that every boat that launches into Lake Tahoe has to pay a $75 annual fee to do so, because it needs to be ‘inspected’ for traces of gasoline/oil/sewage leaking from the boat.

There are hundreds of people who used to come to Tahoe for a long weekend, a week, or whatever.
There is no ‘day fee’ or short time fee....just the $75 ANNUAL fee.
Might work for the high dollar homeowners on the Lake, but will cut off the weekend boater, IMO.
Won’t help get those casinos/hotels open again anytime soon, either.


68 posted on 04/15/2010 9:47:06 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: quesney

First the good news...here in my little Hamlet in SE Pa., I see some houses being sold that haven’t had signs out for 6 months or more. Some construction picking up (And my man just got on a construction job last Friday...after almost 18-months, although he got about 3-4 months of work in between.)
More and more articles in local papers about the local and state budget messes and the crazy pension crisis coming
The bad news, my place of work is gearing up for layoffs.

It ain’t over by a longshot.

The other good news? Toomey in a 10 point lead over Specter, 20 point lead over Sestak. We’re going to get at least a hat trick in November, Rep., Senator and governor.


69 posted on 04/15/2010 9:52:23 AM PDT by SueRae
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To: MRBIGMUTTS

Sobering to say the least.


70 posted on 04/15/2010 9:55:14 AM PDT by SueRae
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To: ladyvet

Our area is doing better then many since we are a gold mining community. Our unemplyment rate is 8.3 percent. That said, the paper this week had headlines of local government raising taxes big time and Burglaries have doubled compared to all of last year so far.””””

Sounds like you are in Elko, Nevada.

The local spenders in the legislature in Nevada are considering taxing mining companies on their GROSS REVENUE-—not the NET, like our tax codes are built upon.

This must NOT happen... it will set a precedent for any state in the union + the Feds to start a similar type of taxation.

One thing about owning a mining lease versus running a ranch or farm-
Those owners can just sit on their holdings, and nothing rots. Cannot do that will cattle, chickens, sheep or any kind of crops.

Taxing mining in this manner could not be more wrong....on several levels.


71 posted on 04/15/2010 10:06:09 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: quesney

Not at all. The lastest unemployment number for this county were 15.7%.


72 posted on 04/15/2010 10:07:25 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: reagan_fanatic

Poor job prospects, very little employment available unless you’re a OTR truck driver “””

My neighbor is a OTR trucker- self employed. He used to make at least one run a week, sometimes 2, hauling potatoes from N Nevada to So California.
He hasn’t made a run in over 6 weeks, and is running up against trucking companies wherre the driver gets paid by the mile and does not own the truck that have a one way haul out of LA which will take the potatoes south for less than he can buy fuel for. He is parked for now.


73 posted on 04/15/2010 10:11:39 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: ridesthemiles
You are right. Are you familiar with the group behind the mining tax? These people are bad news.
http://www.planevada.org/
74 posted on 04/15/2010 10:19:36 AM PDT by ladyvet (WOLVERINES!!!!!)
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To: quesney
Nope.

Things are worse this year then last year and I sadly have the numbers to prove it. Profits are down (expected because we slashed prices) but raw sales are also down.

75 posted on 04/15/2010 10:24:13 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (I miss the competent fiscal policy and flag waving patriotism of the Carter Administration)
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To: quesney; All

Georgia coast...

Storefronts emptying out...

Most prestigious Realtor’s office shuttered...

For Sale signs on lots of homes... commercial real estate... businesses. Frequently with “ask about our new low commissions...”

Employment agencies- closed, except for the manpower types that cater to day labor...

My guess is 20% unemployed, often after going through several other jobs that did not pan out.

It’s grim- as a quip I saw said:

“The New Wealth?
Having a job...”


76 posted on 04/15/2010 3:58:52 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trakball into America's Twilight...)
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To: quesney

Austin Texas - Sales tax receipts up 11.4% over same time last year. (Not due to any tax increase, but increased retail sales).


77 posted on 04/15/2010 4:05:26 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: quesney

My home lost over $200,000 in value since the peak - and lost another 5% last month (according to Zillow). Never saw my home as an ATM - and no plans to sell, so I’m OK. That said, some are not as lucky. I feel for them - things are getting worse at the edges...


78 posted on 04/15/2010 4:08:16 PM PDT by GOPJ (http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php?area=dam&lang=eng)
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To: backhoe
re: It’s grim- as a quip I saw said: “The New Wealth? Having a job...”

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.... so well said.

79 posted on 04/15/2010 4:09:31 PM PDT by ICAB9USA (If you want your dreams to come true, don't sleep quite so much ...............)
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To: ICAB9USA

80 posted on 04/15/2010 4:16:33 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trakball into America's Twilight...)
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