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Obama suggests value-added tax may be an option
breitbart ^ | 4/21/10 | CHARLES BABINGTON

Posted on 04/21/2010 3:00:10 PM PDT by Nachum

WASHINGTON (AP) - President Barack Obama suggested Wednesday that a new value-added tax on Americans is still on the table, seeming to show more openness to the idea than his aides have expressed in recent days.

Before deciding what revenue options are best for dealing with the deficit and the economy, Obama said in an interview with CNBC, "I want to get a better picture of what our options are."

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: agenda; bho44; bhotaxincrease; democrats; liberalfascism; obama; suggests; tax; taxcheatparty; taxes; valueadded; vat
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Crank up "Liar Liar"
1 posted on 04/21/2010 3:00:10 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMXGSP_nPyY&feature=related


2 posted on 04/21/2010 3:01:03 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...
The list, ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

3 posted on 04/21/2010 3:01:30 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum
Raise taxes in a deep recession/depression to balance the budget ..... hmm, where did we see this before?

Next they will be talking about tariffs ....

schu

4 posted on 04/21/2010 3:01:59 PM PDT by schu
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To: Nachum

Is there no end to this faction’s desires?


5 posted on 04/21/2010 3:03:10 PM PDT by Loud Mime (initialpoints.net - - The Constitution as the center of politics -- Download the graph)
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To: Nachum

“Obama” is apparently a word that translates into “What I REALLY meant was...” in English.


6 posted on 04/21/2010 3:04:09 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Conservative Bostonian, atheist pro-lifer, outnumbered by the clueless)
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To: schu
Raise taxes in a deep recession/depression to balance the budget ..... hmm, where did we see this before?

Most recently in Japan.

7 posted on 04/21/2010 3:04:49 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always)
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To: Nachum

Cutting spending by 35% should be an option


8 posted on 04/21/2010 3:04:59 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com << Get your science fiction and fiction test marketed)
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To: Nachum

Really?

< / SNL >


9 posted on 04/21/2010 3:05:39 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (http://www.teapartyslogans.com/cgi-bin/web/index.cgi)
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To: Nachum
President Barack Obama suggested Wednesday that a new value-added tax on [SOME] Americans is still on the table

Ten bucks sez only "select" Americans will end up paying...you know, the dwindling number of Americans who actually PAY taxes any more in this country...

10 posted on 04/21/2010 3:06:32 PM PDT by WeatherGuy
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To: Nachum

“Before deciding what revenue options are best for dealing with the deficit and the economy,”

Gosh, that sounds like “revenue enhancement” already is a done deal. Chris Christie didn’t need to review all his revenue options because he took a completely difference strategic approach to the problem he faced. He is bound and determined to close a massive budget gap entirely through spending cuts rather than trying to soak the taxpayers even more.

Thus, Obama can hem and haw and actual casual about whether he will or won’t endorse a VAT, but his answer to the question suggests he’s not thinking about the deficit problem the way Chris Christie did. This is why we need housecleaning next fall. Bill Clinton boasts about turning around the budget to create a stream of surpluses that would have wiped out our entire deficit. But he never mentions that it was Republican majority in Congress elected in 1994 that held his feet to the fire on spending and forced him into these balanced budgets. It’s pretty clear Obama won’t change his thinking on such matters without a lot of “prodding” by Congress.


11 posted on 04/21/2010 3:09:21 PM PDT by DrC
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To: Nachum
Oh, please, please.....

Propose a VAT tax. Enact it into law quickly, before November.

It will be the end of Democrats in the House, and cripple them in the Senate.

12 posted on 04/21/2010 3:11:06 PM PDT by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: Nachum

I like the “drastically reduce the size of the Federal government” option.


13 posted on 04/21/2010 3:11:20 PM PDT by popdonnelly (I'm so old, I remember when free enterprise was praised, and communism was shunned.)
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To: Nachum

Try it, punk. We’re not in the mood.


14 posted on 04/21/2010 3:11:59 PM PDT by onyx (Sarah/Michele 2012)
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To: Nachum

I wish there was an option to boot this marxist moron out of the WH before he does anymore multi-decade damage to this country.


15 posted on 04/21/2010 3:12:46 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.")
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To: Nachum

haha! love it.

The commission will recommend a VAT, and Obie will say that he is acting upon the advice of learned elders.

What will Americans do?

My bet - nothing.


16 posted on 04/21/2010 3:14:14 PM PDT by swarthyguy (KIDS! - Deficit, Debt,- Pfft! Lookit the bright side of our legacy - Ummrika is almost SmokFrei!)
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To: Nachum

The attitude inside the administration with respect to a VAT is not “if”, it’s just “when.”


17 posted on 04/21/2010 3:16:31 PM PDT by Mojave (Ignorant and stoned - Obama's natural constituency.)
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To: WeatherGuy

how can you have a VAT on ‘some’ people. If it is added at each stage of production, do we have to track each widget produced to know if a ‘wealthy’ person bought it?


18 posted on 04/21/2010 3:16:55 PM PDT by ilgipper
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To: Nachum

19 posted on 04/21/2010 3:17:55 PM PDT by Bobalu (Free men are not equal. Equal men are not free.)
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To: DrC
Not to worry. This Congress will NOT raise taxes...their political capital expended over Obamacare and this being an election year and all.

This is merely strategic positioning for the bigger battles of 2011...just how BIG will the cuts be to move the budget toward balance.

Then again, maybe, just maybe the dims ARE stupid enough to advocate a tax increase on every single person resident in the USA.

One can hope, right?

20 posted on 04/21/2010 3:17:56 PM PDT by Mariner
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To: popdonnelly

How we gonna take care of all them poor people...ya know....the ones that sit around on their ..... till the welfare check arrives.


21 posted on 04/21/2010 3:17:58 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (What)
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To: swarthyguy

If it’s a tax, it’s an option for the Dems to enact. They’ll hire a PR firm, change it from “value added tax” to “value added fee” and shove it down our throats like everything else this a$$hat administration has done.


22 posted on 04/21/2010 3:18:56 PM PDT by repubpub ("No poor man ever gave me a job, but plenty of rich guys have. " unknown)
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To: ilgipper

cunning idiots...but i can not voice how i really feel about these SOBs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


23 posted on 04/21/2010 3:20:34 PM PDT by ldish (Looking forward to Independence Day)
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To: ilgipper
how can you have a VAT on ‘some’ people.

The "progressives" are working on that. They'll probably settle on some kind of subsidy for lower income persons to compensate for the VAT's "regressive" impact.

24 posted on 04/21/2010 3:20:49 PM PDT by Mojave (Ignorant and stoned - Obama's natural constituency.)
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To: Nachum

O is a sleazebag along with the bankers!SLEAZEBALLS!


25 posted on 04/21/2010 3:23:32 PM PDT by taxtruth (Something really stinks In The Federal Government/Mafia and I think it's BO!)
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To: Nachum
Even the dems in the senate aren't stupid enough to push this. Last week McCain attached a sense of the senate resolution to the Unemployment Extension bill saying that the senate did not support a VAT. The resolution passed 85 to 13. Obama is to the left of 3/4 of his own party on this issue.
26 posted on 04/21/2010 3:24:25 PM PDT by apillar
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To: taxtruth

Get rid of funny money!


27 posted on 04/21/2010 3:24:48 PM PDT by taxtruth (Something really stinks In The Federal Government/Mafia and I think it's BO!)
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To: Nachum
"I want to get a better picture of what our options are."

..translation: "I need more radicals to tell me what to say....let me handle one thing at a time, I got all these stops on my Obama tour coming up...so much planning ya know?"

28 posted on 04/21/2010 3:25:00 PM PDT by Doogle (IT'S THAT TIME AGAIN....PLEASE donate, because it's the RIGHT thing to do)
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To: repubpub

To me it’s a done deal.

How can they pay for all the extra spending - cutting the Pentagon from 600 Bill to a 100 is a non starter.

Volcker is on board, and the creditworthiness of the US may be on the line.

Take a carton of milk - add a penny when the cow is milked, add a penny when the milk is pasteurised, add a penny when it’s packaged.

When it’s transported add a carbon fee, perhaps a couple of pennies.....and when it hits the distribution center, add a penny, and when it hits retail, add a penny.

Less than a dime added per carton of milk.

Who could oppose that? Hehehe.

Remember the soda tax - a penny an ounce, they said.


29 posted on 04/21/2010 3:25:23 PM PDT by swarthyguy (KIDS! - Deficit, Debt,- Pfft! Lookit the bright side of our legacy - Ummrika is almost SmokFrei!)
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To: Loud Mime
Is there no end to this faction’s desires?

Nothing short of America's total demise will suffice.

30 posted on 04/21/2010 3:28:05 PM PDT by OB1kNOb (When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Nachum
Liar, yes, but I'd suggest that both a consumption tax and a carbon tax are essential if we're to at least maintain a Euro standard of living.

When discussing these issues with democrats whose minds are open, I suggest the nation should follow the Obama "model" of transparency.

Rather than a VAT, a monstrosity to administer, we should adopt a national sales tax, in the 10%-15% range. Rather than Cap and Trade, a gasoline tax in the 25 to 20 cents per gallon range would suffice, I'm told. I go with 30 to 50 cents, myself.

These taxes are necessary if our children and grandchildren are to enjoy the benefits of cradle to grave government supervision of our lives our liberal bretheran desire.

It does get them thinking, even opens ears to alternatives, like maybe we don't need to nationalize health care after all.

Just a suggestion, but these taxes are necessary if the laws on the books today are still on the books five years from now.

31 posted on 04/21/2010 3:37:03 PM PDT by SJackson (Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel and it must remain undivided, Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: SJackson
Well. If "Liar Liar" doesn't do it for you-

How about "Tax Man"

 TaxMan, The Beatles  

32 posted on 04/21/2010 3:39:36 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum
VAT has always been part of Obama's calculations for his socialization of America. His minions been floating trial balloons since last spring. With Volcker (Reagan's former Fed Chairman) giving him cover last week, he's now going to try and hide behind this phony commission and then have Reid do his dirty work through reconciliation.

Senate Democrats' budget to allow use of reconciliation rules (here we go again...)

33 posted on 04/21/2010 3:40:44 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: schu

Dems never learn, it’s almost as though they want the economy to fail.

Actually, that would explain a lot.


34 posted on 04/21/2010 3:42:29 PM PDT by Permanent Veteran
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To: GeronL
Cutting spending by 35% should be an option

Not to the thieves in Washington.

The only thing Democrats bring to the table is taking more money from the people who actually pay taxes and with a VAT they just want to rape us all.

35 posted on 04/21/2010 3:47:08 PM PDT by A message
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To: Mariner

Congress has already told the deficit reduction commission that it is not allowed to look at SS cuts. But the fiscal hole in Medicare is 5 times as large. A fair and balanced assessment of the situation would provide him a full range of options, i.e.:
1) a package of adjustments to Medicare eligibility (means testing? higher retirement age?), benefits (change to a defined contribution instead of defined benefit?) and payment reforms (the rest of the market long ago shifted away from open-ended fee-for-service: it’s about time Medicare caught up) that would reduce costs enough to eliminate the deficit;
2) a companion package of revenue increases that could do the same;
3) an “al la carte” menu of cost reductions and revenue increases from which to design whatever mix of cost reductions and revenue increases is viewed as sensible.

My fear is that 1) will be considered a non-starter and that most of the commission’s focus will be on 2), trying to design a package of “acceptable” revenue increases so that cost cutting isn’t even needed.


36 posted on 04/21/2010 3:50:11 PM PDT by DrC
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To: Nachum

0bama can KMA. He spends too much and then wants to implement a socialist tax that will never go away and always increase.

Eff off 0bama


37 posted on 04/21/2010 3:51:38 PM PDT by Principled (Get the capital back! NRST!)
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To: justlurking
Propose a VAT tax. Enact it into law quickly, before November.

won't happen. Look for it to happen in the Lame Duck session before Christmas. They'll have the bill written and the votes counted before anyone knows whats going on.

38 posted on 04/21/2010 3:54:16 PM PDT by pgkdan (I miss Ronald Reagan!)
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To: Nachum

Of course he does.

Raising Taxes is what Liberal Democrats do.


39 posted on 04/21/2010 3:57:10 PM PDT by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: Nachum
and America takes another one in the........
rlmorel

40 posted on 04/21/2010 3:58:03 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Nachum
I just received this in an email today, attributed to an anonymous source in the Czech Republic:

“The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president."

"The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president.”

Sort of hits the nail on the head.

41 posted on 04/21/2010 3:58:09 PM PDT by matthew fuller (#11. Thou shalt not argue with morons.)
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To: SJackson

>.a VAT, a monstrosity to administer

That’s what makes it so appealing.

The tax is “hidden” from the consumer, who will only see the state sales tax on the receipt.

The administration, well, employment will have to increased so VAT consultants can identify the discrete points of a process where value is added to a product.

Now, combine with a VAT aka sales tax on services - legal, medical, financial.......

Or like Monty Python, let’s tax thingie.


42 posted on 04/21/2010 4:04:23 PM PDT by swarthyguy (KIDS! - Deficit, Debt,- Pfft! Lookit the bright side of our legacy - Ummrika is almost SmokFrei!)
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To: Nachum

How about we CUT GOVERNMENT IN HALF AND CUT TAXES BY 75%?

How about we FIRE all of congress and arrest Obummer for the Usurper he is.

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr


43 posted on 04/21/2010 4:04:35 PM PDT by Danae (Don't like the Constitution, try living in a country with out one.)
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To: matthew fuller

yep.


44 posted on 04/21/2010 4:04:39 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

VAT this President Obama.


45 posted on 04/21/2010 4:06:09 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Mojave

The stupid party had the house, the senate, and the white house. Spending and stupidity went on unabated. Do you really think replacing the left currently in place with the center left of the stupid party will make a difference once a VAT is in place? Hell, the GOP of late will look on this windfall as just another “resource” to be spent. It’s time to stop digging.

Same old same old ain’t gonna fix it this time. Grass roots conservatives might, hence the lamestream’s primary goal of painting the Tea Party as a group of racist redneck militia.

November’s coming. It could make enough of a difference to save the republic. Will it?


46 posted on 04/21/2010 4:07:01 PM PDT by glock rocks (Don't turn away now darling, let's fire it up and wind it out. - Suzy Bogguss)
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To: Nachum
Tax, tax, and more taxes. The party of taxes is in power. If you think you are going to survive with what you started with, think again. Osama the antichrist is going strong. He and his muzzie loving thugs of Chicago, the murdering thugs of Izzlum, they are in charge. Thanks to all those blacks and illegals who voted for this muzzie thug. America is toast. The America we all knew and loved is dying quickly. We are going to rule the day that this SOB got in the WH. He is DETERMINED to destroy America. AND, he is accomplishing it with his thug soviet buddies in Sodom on the Potomac.
47 posted on 04/21/2010 4:07:15 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (God said it simply, go against Israel and pay a hefty price in retribution. That simple.)
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To: Nachum

The economy will be complete toast. There will be no coming back.


48 posted on 04/21/2010 4:07:31 PM PDT by dbrew2u
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To: swarthyguy

...and at every stage as the “value” is “added” it means lots and lots of paperwork.


49 posted on 04/21/2010 4:08:45 PM PDT by Churchillspirit (9/11/01...NEVER FORGET.)
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To: swarthyguy

I am figuring whatever has a VAT, I can live without it. There are always other ways ...


50 posted on 04/21/2010 4:12:25 PM PDT by fujimoh
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