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Liberal icon catches up: Racist teabagger Noam Chomsky slams Obama, defends Tea Party, Palin
Portland Examiner ^ | 4/21/10 | D.K. Jamaal

Posted on 04/22/2010 2:35:49 PM PDT by tatown

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To: Nuc1; Deagle
...he warped the minds of many young Americans and millions of Canadians. Through his teachings causing them to hate their (our) nation and embrace marxism.

True story, a cousin of mine in Vancouver being one example.

81 posted on 04/22/2010 4:57:50 PM PDT by La Enchiladita
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To: tatown

Actually, I have heard voices (through here) of linguists who are starting to question the holiness of Chomsky’s views in that area. (Sorry, I don’t have links.) I sure am glad I didn’t go into linguistics at the U and had to burrow through the man’s dense texts.


82 posted on 04/22/2010 5:02:20 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: editor-surveyor
"Not exactly; they both were distrustful of the masses, and sought some form of global government."

I don't think I'd agree with you on that. Buckley wanted - like both Thatcher and Reagan - a unified global opposition to Communism from the democratic countries. IOW, they wanted a UN that actually stood against totalitarianism. Is that a "global government"? I don't think so.

And, Buckley certainly espoused an anti-populist sentiment, as do I. It's a VERY short walk from populism to collectivism. No thanks.

Buckley was afraid of "the masses"; The same "masses" I'm afraid of - populist pirates who wish to plunder my personal wealth. Again, no thanks.

Chumpsky gets sympathetic comments from some people because his foreign policy positions are virtually indiscernible from the more contemporary Paulians. Again, no thanks.

So, I guess someone could make a disingenuous argument that both wanted a kind of global-government. But, they had two ENTIRELY different views of what that would look like, and what ends it would pursue - Buckley wanted something to fight the communists (hardly what I would call a government - an effective alliance, perhaps), and Chumpskey wanted something to (in his view) fight for the interests of the proletariat.

83 posted on 04/22/2010 5:02:25 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: tatown

WOW, just wow.


84 posted on 04/22/2010 5:02:34 PM PDT by jocon307 (It's the spending, stupid.)
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To: editor-surveyor

“It is impossible to be a true leftist, and a true anarchist.”

Why are you telling me this. I didn’t make up the term, it’s what those idiots call themselves. Of course it’s absurd, but that explains them, doesn’t it? Look it up.

Hank


85 posted on 04/22/2010 5:04:27 PM PDT by Hank Kerchief
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To: tatown

bookmark


86 posted on 04/22/2010 5:05:10 PM PDT by Mariner
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To: stockpirate

I Had a little trouble with “perserve/persevere — ah ha, preserve,” and I vaguely recall hearing recently that “When the government fears the people,” was actually first said by some patriot very early in the twentieth century, BUT THANK YOU for the courage to say that we need to be willing to use violence to stop our totalitarian federal gubmint. Stopping it by using violence might — probably would — bring on the most horrific civil war ever fought. The only thing worse would be failing to stop it.


87 posted on 04/22/2010 5:10:11 PM PDT by JohnQ1 ("I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow)
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To: Deagle

Please, don’t apologize. I’m old too.

I could never find fault with a man who drinks bourbon, though I could never adulterate it with coke, or anything else. Mine is always straight, bonded Old Grandad (used to be Wild Turkey, which is a little too smooth for me). Chase it with the only American ale left, Ballantine.

I respected you for your stand against Chomsky, but have much more respect for you now, and I think we understand each other too, which is a good thing for people with values.

Have a wonderful evening, friend, and we’ll carry on the fight together.

Hank


88 posted on 04/22/2010 5:14:02 PM PDT by Hank Kerchief
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To: OldDeckHand

” IOW, they wanted a UN that actually stood against totalitarianism”

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Are you really unable to see how absurd that idea is?

There is no way that any kind of UN can be anything but tyrannical. There is no cause for it to exist. This is the dialectic in a haloween costume. Any number of nations can by agreement persue a common goal, but to assert a need for an agency to act in their behalf is disengenuous. It is an attempt to create a government that has no cause to exist.
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89 posted on 04/22/2010 5:20:03 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: editor-surveyor
"Are you really unable to see how absurd that idea is?"

Pay attention to the article I used in my statemnt. I used "a", not "the", when speaking about the United Nations.

” IOW, they wanted a UN that actually stood against totalitarianism”"
Buckley, Reagan and Thatcher wanted a collection of free countries to stand against the global communist threat. They hoped, liked many did during the early 60's that the UN would actually be that body. Clearly, it was anything but that. So, whatever you want to call "the thing" that stands against communism, that's what Buckley wanted.

Buckley certainly never advocated some of the far-reaching endeavors that the UN has engaged in, like Chomskey certainly has. Buckley wanted a Communist foil, nothing else.

90 posted on 04/22/2010 5:31:50 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...
It's unusual to see him act in such a condescending way ('Civ lied), but Chomsky (and his eulogist, who penned this screed) isn't slamming Obama, he's slamming free markets, and trying to A) rabble-rouse and B) divide and conquer.
Chomsky's speech went on to cite a poll showing that at least half of independent voters sympathize more with the Tea Party than with any partisan movement or political figure, to slam Obama for coziness with Wall Street and Big Corporate, and to explain why the upset disaffection of tea partiers is "understandable": The level of anger and fear is like nothing I can compare in my lifetime. Ridiculing the tea party shenanigans is a serious error. For over 30 years, real incomes have stagnated or declined... The bankers, who are primarily responsible for the crisis, are now reveling in record bonuses while official unemployment is around 10 percent and unemployment in the manufacturing sector is at Depression-era levels. The financial industry preferred Obama to McCain. They expected to be rewarded and they were. Then Obama began to criticize greedy bankers and proposed measures to regulate them. And the punishment for this was very swift: they were going to shift their money to the Republicans. So Obama said bankers are 'fine guys' and assured the business world: 'I, like most of the American people, don't begrudge people success or wealth. That is part of the free-market system.' People see that and are not happy about it. People want some answers. They are hearing answers from only one place: Fox, talk radio, and Sarah Palin. According to Chomsky, this is what is fueling "the indignation and rage of those cast aside."

91 posted on 04/23/2010 4:35:19 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: SunkenCiv
According to Chomsky, this is what is fueling "the indignation and rage of those cast aside."

I don't get it. Chomsky is a socialist, was he also cast aside?

92 posted on 04/23/2010 4:37:59 PM PDT by Eva
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To: Gapplega
He’s a goose-stepping Marxist who masturbates thinking about Erich Honecker.
I really hate you for putting that image in my head. I'll forward you the bar tab that it will cost to obliterate it.
93 posted on 04/23/2010 4:38:56 PM PDT by rmlew (There is no such thing as a Blue Dog Democrat; just liberals who lie.)
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To: ansel12

He’s an anarcho-socialist; Think Emma Goldmann or those idiots the communists spent their time killing during the Spanish Civil War.


94 posted on 04/23/2010 4:39:57 PM PDT by rmlew (There is no such thing as a Blue Dog Democrat; just liberals who lie.)
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To: rmlew

Lol!


95 posted on 04/23/2010 6:28:29 PM PDT by Gapplega
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To: Eva

There are no “cast asides” other than conservatives, a category to which Chomsky, who hates his country and countrymen, doesn’t belong.


96 posted on 04/23/2010 6:36:17 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: ansel12

Noam is an anarchist. Libertarian to the degree he is engaged in the world of ideas. The ever seductive intellectual ultimately believes in the violent overthrow of capitalism by all means.


97 posted on 04/23/2010 6:40:33 PM PDT by Broker (Stranger in a very strange land.)
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