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CALIFORNIA: State revenues fell $3.6 billion short in April
SacBee: Capitol Alert ^ | 5/7/10 | Dan Walters

Posted on 05/07/2010 12:31:55 PM PDT by SmithL

When income tax revenues fell billions of dollars short of expectations last month, modest gains in other revenues were wiped out, leaving the state running well behind, Controller John Chiang reported Friday.

"Four months of positive receipts were erased in the last 10 days of April," said Chiang. "Because a surge in revenues has not come, the governor and Legislature need to move quickly and forge the consensus needed for a balanced budget. Any delay will only limit their options and expose already struggling Californians to greater harm."

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: deficit; goldenstate; revenueloss; taxandspend; yourtaxdollarsatwork
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To: SmithL

When businesses have to pay higher taxes, they can’t pay more to employees. When employees don’t get more pay, they can’t spend more money. When employees can’t spend more money, businesses make less money and therefore will pay less in taxes because they have less in income.

You’d think it was rocket science the way government and liberals cannot grasp this concept that can be explained in one paragraph.


21 posted on 05/07/2010 1:10:34 PM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: OldDeckHand

I’ve read that several times at this forum. I do not doubt that it is true.

However, when the state cannot pay its bills and at the same time cannot go bankrupt . . . then what?


22 posted on 05/07/2010 1:28:38 PM PDT by Jacquerie (There is no right to publicly humiliate Old Glory.)
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To: SmithL
Let's see if the morons in Sacrament can get this.

There's a Tax-rate vs Tax-Revenue Curve. Plot Tax-Rate on X-Axis and Tax-Revenue on Y-Axis. The curve looks similiar to a bell curve. If you tax @ 0% you get no revenue. If you tax @ 100% you end economic activity and get no money. Therefore there's an optimum tax-rate that generates the maximum revenue (slope of curve is at zero). If you increase tax rate and you get less revenue then you are on the downward slope of curve. You need to go back in the opposite direction. Funny how the folks in Sac (are you listening Arnold & Democrats) just can't seem to get this.
23 posted on 05/07/2010 1:33:18 PM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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To: Jacquerie
Like most private entities do....

Start selling assets.

Start laying off employee's.

Start cutting payroll.

It's simple when you have to pay for stuff yourself.

24 posted on 05/07/2010 1:34:19 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: funfan

9.9 is not 10


25 posted on 05/07/2010 1:35:42 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Ostracize Democrats. There can be no Democrat friends.)
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To: Osage Orange

Right, and if they do not do what common sense would dictate?


26 posted on 05/07/2010 1:39:07 PM PDT by Jacquerie (There is no right to publicly humiliate Old Glory.)
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To: SmithL

They hit the rock and Arnold ordered full steam ahead.


27 posted on 05/07/2010 1:43:38 PM PDT by bmwcyle (Thank You God for Freeing the Navy Seals)
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To: SmithL

Jails
All unions
Illegals
Corrupt polticians
Global Warming policies
Regulation
Cutting off water

It’s ‘ovah’


28 posted on 05/07/2010 1:46:57 PM PDT by wac3rd (Prepare for the November 2010 Tsunami)
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To: SmithL
CALIFORNIA: State revenues fell $3.6 billion short spending was 3.6 billion too much in April.

Dutifully corrected.

29 posted on 05/07/2010 1:47:06 PM PDT by catpuppy (2009 --"We will not ration health care." 2012--"Anybody heard from grandpa?")
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To: Jacquerie
"However, when the state cannot pay its bills and at the same time cannot go bankrupt . . . then what?"

That is the $64K question. No one really knows, because it's never come to that, yet. There are competing legal schools of thought. One camp (the camp I'm in) argues that since states are sovereign entities, they could just default on their debt.

Anther school of thought, which I believe to be a stretch, describes some kind of federal receivership. But, states, like the federal government are sovereign entities. There is no constitutional provision for one sovereign (the feds in this instance) to take control of another sovereign (the state).

A GM style bailout, and probably the third school of thought, wouldn't be out of the question, either; Some kind of pre-arranged loan where the feds dictate certain terms to the state, leaving the state the option to acquiesce, or pass.

It really is uncharted water, legally. What would actually happen is anyone's guess.

30 posted on 05/07/2010 1:48:15 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: ZX12R
"Great job you’re doing out there, Terminator.".... You bet!...Awnulds a real cool breeze!
31 posted on 05/07/2010 1:58:53 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: OldDeckHand

Well...
Since the left loves to tell us how much money California contributes to the federal Government, I’d suggest succession.

Let California become the liberal Utopiaa they want it to be, and see how fast we can build border fences to control the illegal immigration when they figure out what a “liberal Utopia” really is.


32 posted on 05/07/2010 2:00:11 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Obama White House=Tammany Hall on the National Mall)
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To: SmithL

A friend of mine has observed that the tax and spend approach of the California Democrats should be called the “Grecian Formula”.


33 posted on 05/07/2010 2:00:59 PM PDT by AJFavish (www.allanfavish.com)
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To: GeronL

What!
That would include unions, pensioners, welfare,
GeronL you may just be a candidate for re-education camp.


34 posted on 05/07/2010 2:02:13 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (Just say NO to RINOs. (FUBO))
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To: SmithL

California was short $97 per man, woman and child in April. Think about that. With all of the spending in the California budget ($87,204,000,000 or $2295 per man, woman and child), they are still overspending.

Making this worse, the Federal Budget is $3,938,000,000,000 or $12,703 for every man, woman and child.

This means for everyone in California, the Federal and State government spends $14,998. A family of 4 cost taxpayers almost $60,000 a year if they live in California.

Unbelievable.


35 posted on 05/07/2010 2:02:50 PM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: SmithL

Howwww....UNEXPECTED!!!it all is to these kids...


36 posted on 05/07/2010 2:04:30 PM PDT by mo
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To: Joe Boucher

The first education camp didn’t take too well, huh?


37 posted on 05/07/2010 2:06:13 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com << Get your science fiction and fiction test marketed)
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To: Joe Boucher

The first education camp didn’t take too well, huh?


38 posted on 05/07/2010 2:06:14 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com << Get your science fiction and fiction test marketed)
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To: bert

It is 9.7 either which is what is was last month


39 posted on 05/07/2010 2:06:28 PM PDT by funfan
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To: umgud
I guess I added to this problem. I was so accurate in my tax witholding that I actually got a $3.54 tax refund this year.

Me to...and I got a $200 CA state refund and had to PAY several $K to the feds....

talk about screwed up system

40 posted on 05/07/2010 2:08:52 PM PDT by spokeshave (They'll get my false teeth when they pry them from my sister's cold, dead mouth)
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