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'Girls Gone Wild' Creator Joe Francis Engaged to CBS Entertainment Reporter
Fox News ^ | July 2, 2010

Posted on 07/03/2010 7:25:45 AM PDT by PJ-Comix

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To: Gaffer

That’s not a comeback. That’s a real question. Wouldn’t it un-conservative for me to sit around grousing about other people taking advantage of a piss-poor parenting job I did?

BTW if your post was a “comeback” it wasn’t snappy either. In fact, that’s getting old. You should get new material :-)


21 posted on 07/03/2010 8:06:31 AM PDT by krb (Obama is a miserable failure.)
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To: Grizzled Bear
Apparently, some people here today don't seem to realize that.
22 posted on 07/03/2010 8:07:33 AM PDT by Gaffer ("Profiling: The only profile I need is a chalk outline around their dead ass!")
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To: Grizzled Bear; Gaffer
If a parent fails to warn their kid not to take candy from strangers, the pervert who lures the child with candy is still a pervert.

Now that is a great point. Gaffer, get down off your high horse and take notes.

23 posted on 07/03/2010 8:08:36 AM PDT by krb (Obama is a miserable failure.)
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To: Gaffer

If no one were willing to pose for the camera, there would never have been GGW.


24 posted on 07/03/2010 8:08:56 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: PJ-Comix

Hope the wedding doesn’t go, um, wild.


25 posted on 07/03/2010 8:10:07 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (You can evade reality, but you cannot evade the consequences of evading reality. ~Ayn Rand)
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To: placerville
“But it will not be a traditional wedding.”....

Right after she says “I do” we will turn the garden hose on her and have a Wet T-Shirt contest.....

26 posted on 07/03/2010 8:15:42 AM PDT by TRY ONE (Another Beer Summit.....another day in Debt)
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To: krb
Your question wasn't an attempt to look at the other side of the situation, it was a means to play 'unbiased' evaluator examining both sides of situation, when all you were doing was to phrase it so you would seem that you were open minded instead of outright saying the fathers were responsible in these girls' upbringing.

If you were the father of a girl today, you'd know that parents don't have the ability to control as much as they used to when it comes to their children. School, peers, MEDIA and the out-of-whack culture in this country today FAR outweigh (in most cases) influences from the parent. And, if you still think it's okay for some sleazebag to coax, cajole, flatter and persuade some young drunk woman into a trailer/bedroom/hotel to take movies of her being goaded into showing more and more of herself, then I just flat don't know what to tell you friend.

27 posted on 07/03/2010 8:16:59 AM PDT by Gaffer ("Profiling: The only profile I need is a chalk outline around their dead ass!")
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To: krb; Gaffer

Didn’t Joe Francis do some jail time because some of the “Grrlz” in his videos were underage? I also remember reading somewhere that he plyed potential “models” with alcohol and special passes to exclusive events (night clubs, concerts, etc...).

Their daddies were likely absent or disengaged. The guy is still scum.

Here’s a question for those who support Mr Francis’ “Art.” Who do you suppose he voted for in the past three predidential elections?


28 posted on 07/03/2010 8:20:26 AM PDT by Grizzled Bear (Does not play well with others)
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To: PJ-Comix
"We have chosen to have a civil domestic partnership because we don't believe it's appropriate to be married until our gay and lesbian friends are afforded the same rights as us to legally marry in the United States," Francis told the Post.

Well, well, well. The daughter of a dim-bulb will become em-partnered with a scumbag libtard. They'll probably have a roman "wedding", with a statue of Caligula and Tiberius, and a pool full of guppies.

29 posted on 07/03/2010 8:22:45 AM PDT by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.....)
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To: Gaffer

“The damage he has done to young women in this country is immeasurable,”

especially when they voluntarily took off their clothes for camera because they felt like they needed the attention.


30 posted on 07/03/2010 8:33:20 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: PJ-Comix

Quincy Jones will be his best man. Why does one need a best man for a non-marriage?


31 posted on 07/03/2010 8:45:40 AM PDT by Roberts
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To: DTogo
If no one were willing to pose for the camera, there would never have been GGW.

And Larry Flynt is a hero for defending the first amendment.

Feminists have been relentless in marginalizing a fathers role in the family and in "liberating" female sexuality. Is it any wonder that many young girls, raised by single mothers, become easy prey for male sexual predators?

Much of this is the result of the "any male role model will do if there is no father" school of parenting.

And have you heard...lesbian couples make better parents...

Kids of Lesbian Parents are Well Adjusted

32 posted on 07/03/2010 9:01:11 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: raybbr

Looks like the wedding party and Joe chose the brides maid's outfits.

33 posted on 07/03/2010 9:20:01 AM PDT by Slyfox
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To: Gaffer

Look, you are right, but don’t expect others to agree with you. The human ability, to find reasons to support the things they want to do, knows no limits.

There was never a time in my life when I didn’t think women who were appearing in Playboy were being abused. Now girls are doing it for free. And some people still think it’s okay because the girl got liquored up and signed some piece of paper.

The idea it’s the father’s fault, is so juvenile and misguided a response that I am not even going to address it other than to say anyone making that claim is so ignorant as to be irrelevant in this discussion.

Folks, I like the female body as much as anyone on planet earth. You can take that to the bank. That being said, the more those women are exposed in public, the more they become little more than cash cows, every nook and cranny of their bodies being exposed.

It’s pretty easy being 18 to 21 years of age, and signing on to do something that can haunt you the rest of your life. And women who go on to be come successful business women, or hold other high level positions, always have those photos out there waiting to surface.

My instant gratification isn’t as important as their privacy. And just because a woman signed off to do something, it doesn’t make it right, or a wise decision. It does not eliminate the exploitation factor.

Every one of these women are victims of abuse.

Seeing these women do these things, some of them getting big dollars to do it, other girls are enticed into participating, thinking there’s nothing wrong with it.

Yes there is. And you’re not doing damage to me by doing it. You are doing damage to yourself. You are contributing to the destruction of other young women.

So men, it’s not whether this really gets you going that proves you’re a man. It’s the realization that it could, and yet you realize it’s exploitation and you refuse to be a part of it that does.

There are some things in life better left unsaid. And there are some things better left undone.

Do I think there ought to be a law? No. I think there should be more common sense, and you can’t legislate that.


34 posted on 07/03/2010 9:23:57 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Look at me, look at me, look at me, look at me... is not indicative of Presidential timber.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Well said!


35 posted on 07/03/2010 9:31:47 AM PDT by Grizzled Bear (Does not play well with others)
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To: PJ-Comix

How nice it is to see such a Christ-centered couple from such Christ-centered backgrounds committing themselves to a Biblical relationship, putting God before all that they do, and spreading His love to all those in need.

It makes me think there is still hope for this world.


36 posted on 07/03/2010 9:37:59 AM PDT by Eccl 10:2 (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem - Ps 122:6)
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To: Gaffer

You seem to know an awful lot about the content of the videos for some strange reason.


37 posted on 07/03/2010 9:40:26 AM PDT by lewislynn (What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in common? Disinformation)
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To: Grizzled Bear

Thank you.


38 posted on 07/03/2010 9:43:14 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Look at me, look at me, look at me, look at me... is not indicative of Presidential timber.)
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To: lewislynn

Anyone with a cable connection pretty much knows what’s on those videos. That wasn’t your best offering...


39 posted on 07/03/2010 9:48:13 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Look at me, look at me, look at me, look at me... is not indicative of Presidential timber.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Beautifully articulated!!!

I had a talk with my 7th and 8th graders about the use of cell phones and the legal ramifications of sending illicit pictures. Young girls...12, 13, 14 are being asked by boys to send topless pictures via cellphones, and the boys are distributing these pictures to their friends. This is SO VERY COMMON-and I taught in a Christian school-that it boggles the mind. We have failed our youth-and no one entity can be blamed-unless it is the pursuit of the almighty dollar.


40 posted on 07/03/2010 10:00:07 AM PDT by karatemom
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