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As Oil Industry Fights a Tax, It Reaps Billions From Subsidies (NYT barf alert)
New York Times ^ | July 3, 2010 | DAVID KOCIENIEWSKI

Posted on 07/03/2010 3:23:07 PM PDT by reaganaut1

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an examination of the American tax code indicates that oil production is among the most heavily subsidized businesses, with tax breaks available at virtually every stage of the exploration and extraction process.

According to the most recent study by the Congressional Budget Office, released in 2005, capital investments like oil field leases and drilling equipment are taxed at an effective rate of 9 percent, significantly lower than the overall rate of 25 percent for businesses in general and lower than virtually any other industry.

And for many small and midsize oil companies, the tax on capital investments is so low that it is more than eliminated by various credits. These companies’ returns on those investments are often higher after taxes than before.

“The flow of revenues to oil companies is like the gusher at the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico: heavy and constant,” said Senator Robert Menendez, Democrat of New Jersey, who has worked alongside the Obama administration on a bill that would cut $20 billion in oil industry tax breaks over the next decade. “There is no reason for these corporations to shortchange the American taxpayer.”

Oil industry officials say that the tax breaks, which average about $4 billion a year according to various government reports, are a bargain for taxpayers. By helping producers weather market fluctuations and invest in technology, tax incentives are supporting an industry that the officials say provides 9.2 million jobs.

The American Petroleum Institute, an industry advocacy group, argues that even with subsidies, oil producers paid or incurred $280 billion in American income taxes from 2006 to 2008, and pay a higher percentage of their earnings in taxes than most other American corporations.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: menendez; oil; robertmenendez; taxes
Leftists, including NYT reporters, are desperate for more tax revenue, and they think oil companies are a good target. Even according to the article, oil producers paid $280 billion in taxes from 2006 to 2008, which is more than 20 times larger than the "tax breaks" of $12 billion (the article's figure of $4 billion a year times three) they allegedly received.

The NYT pays no corporate income tax because it deservedly loses money.

1 posted on 07/03/2010 3:23:13 PM PDT by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1

There’s the weaselly reasoning again. “It’s not private money, it’s money that belongs to the g ummit, so we gummitcrats are subsidizing you rather than just letting you keep more of what you earned.”

America fought a bloody war to get away from King George over less.


2 posted on 07/03/2010 3:30:32 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: reaganaut1

Leftist newspapers, the ones who did their best to make Hussein President, will soon officially, rather than nominally, be government owned newspapers. Hussein’s thugs will decide which columnists deserve the honor of praising The Zero.


3 posted on 07/03/2010 3:32:31 PM PDT by Jacquerie (We live in a judicial tyranny - Mark Levin)
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To: reaganaut1

Effective tax on production from most domestic wells is well over 50%—severance taxes; state and federal income tax on the working interest owners.


4 posted on 07/03/2010 3:45:29 PM PDT by David (...)
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To: Jacquerie

Shoot, anyone who kisses the Bummer’s, er, bum, will get space in the paper. It’s not like once it becomes a government organ, it is going to suffer budget problems any more until the whole affair goes down the tubes.


5 posted on 07/03/2010 3:49:25 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: reaganaut1

Who to trust? The API, which may accidentally have some idea about what goes on in the oil business OR the New York Times (a non-profit newspaper company) and some Senator from New Jersey who couldn’t change the oil in a lawnmower if you held a gun to his head.

Wow, this is a tough call.

/sarc


6 posted on 07/03/2010 3:59:37 PM PDT by OkiMusashi (Beware the fury of a patient man. --- John Dryden)
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To: reaganaut1
Oil, like mining, is an extractive industry. It invests significant capital to extract what is a wasting resource. When the mine runs out, or the well runs dry, that invested capital is useless. That's why there are tax breaks for extractive industries. They shouldn't be compared with a factory that can be run indefinitely.
7 posted on 07/03/2010 4:33:33 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney ( New book, RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY. More @ www.book-resistancetotyranny.com)
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To: reaganaut1

Pardon me for being simple, but since when is a tax break a subsidy?


8 posted on 07/03/2010 4:36:44 PM PDT by proud_yank (Socialism - An Answer In Search Of A Question For Over 100 Years)
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To: reaganaut1

Stop all businesses subsidizing and lower all personal and corporate taxes. When one group is subsidized, another group has to pick up the slack.

A above board national sale tax replacing personal and corporate taxes with no exception is needed. Not an added value tax where the tax rates are hidden.


9 posted on 07/03/2010 4:49:19 PM PDT by steveab (When was the last time someone tried to sell you a CO2 induced climate control system for your home?)
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To: proud_yank

Since demonizing capitalism became fashionable is when it became okay. Letting a company keep their money is not the same as providing tax money to someone for no reason other than they have a hand out. Ralph Nader probably played up business subsidy and subsidising business the most to make it seem bad.


10 posted on 07/03/2010 5:14:28 PM PDT by pacpam (action=consequence and applies in all cases - friend of victory)
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To: steveab

You are saying when one group contributes less to the pot, someone else has to pick up the slack. I say quit spending Congress. No corporation ever paid taxes, individuals do.


11 posted on 07/03/2010 5:17:08 PM PDT by pacpam (action=consequence and applies in all cases - friend of victory)
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To: pacpam

‘No corporation ever paid taxes, individuals do.’

You are absolutely RIGHT. All taxes are paid by the end user of goods and services.

But (and this happens all the time)If one bussiness, such as a bank HQ, we’ll call bank X) get a tax break to move from one city to another, then the other business in that area has to be taxed more in order to cover the cost of city services to the bank X. So consumers of bank Y has to pay a little more than consumers who deal with bank X.


12 posted on 07/03/2010 7:00:22 PM PDT by steveab (When was the last time someone tried to sell you a CO2 induced climate control system for your home?)
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To: reaganaut1

Oil Spill Liability Trust Fund (OSLTF)

any reason people are neglecting this?


13 posted on 07/03/2010 7:53:40 PM PDT by sten
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To: pacpam

Thanks for clearing that up. Can’t wait for the day when demonizing socialism is back in style.


14 posted on 07/03/2010 8:19:58 PM PDT by proud_yank (Socialism - An Answer In Search Of A Question For Over 100 Years)
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To: steveab

Great tagline.


15 posted on 07/03/2010 8:20:25 PM PDT by proud_yank (Socialism - An Answer In Search Of A Question For Over 100 Years)
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To: reaganaut1

I recall the wailing in 2008 when Exxon made about $1400 profit per second. It seemed alot to me till I read they paid about $4000 per second in tax......think about it.


16 posted on 07/03/2010 9:35:29 PM PDT by joelt
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To: reaganaut1

It is no secret that some businesses receive tax breaks and other subsidies other types of busineeses don’t receive, more often due to their political influence than for any legitimate financial reason.

This is more crony capitalism than free market capitalism.

Leftists reflexively attack all businesses.

I am unclear why conservatives should reply by reflexively defending all the actions of big business, which seldom responds in kind.


17 posted on 07/05/2010 7:30:50 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: reaganaut1

It is no secret that some businesses receive tax breaks and other subsidies other types of busineeses don’t receive, more often due to their political influence than for any legitimate financial reason.

This is more crony capitalism than free market capitalism.

Leftists reflexively attack all businesses.

I am unclear why conservatives should reply by reflexively defending all the actions of big business, which seldom responds in kind.


18 posted on 07/05/2010 7:32:23 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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