Posted on 07/05/2010 7:13:20 PM PDT by Man50D
BOCA RATON, Fla. – The Hawaiian elections official who claims the White House is lying about Barack Obama being born in Hawaii and that no long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate even exists for the president in the state is now featured in a cover story in Globe Magazine to stand by his claims.
Tim Adams, 45, who was senior elections clerk for the city and county of Honolulu during the 2008 presidential campaign, is the basis of the report, with a banner headline reading: "Bombshell new evidence. Obama was not born in U.S."
The Globe begins its account by stating, "A former Hawaii records official is sending shock waves through Washington, D.C., by revealing there is absolutely no birth certificate for Barack Obama! The bombshell revelation backs up long-standing claims that Obama – who insists he was born in a Honolulu hospital – really took his first breath in Kenya, and, as a result, violates the U.S. Constitution's requirements for the president to be a 'natural born' American."
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I just watch from the sidelines and even an ignoramus such as myself can tell who knows their stuff and who’s an 0thugga toady sychophant idiot leftist!
He be doin’ exactly what he be telling us not to do.
Leftists are always hypocrites.
Lets look at the big picture; the overall evidence against Obama.
- We have here a Hawaiian state senior election clerk who said it is an open secret in the Hawaiian government that Obama has no long form birth certificate, and that his bosses contacted the state hospitals and they have NO record of Obama being born in Hawaii.
- The whole country of Kenya along with numerous statements from government officials, ministers, and ambassorders state Obama is from Kenya and born in Kenya.
- Lucas Smith's Kenyan birth certificate has stood up to all the after-birther scrutiny where it is still standing. Since they can't scratch the Obama Kenyan birth certificate, they attack him and his travel details that according to Smith, his lawyer(s) have told him to remain silent. However last year, Smith was waiting to be put on the witness stand in the California Federal courthouse where he would have been cross examined by the federal lawyers who would have asked him about his Kenyan travel itinery in detail.
- We have numerous past articles in newspapers in the U.K., the AP, and newspapers in Africa refer to Obama as African born. Well that sounds good enough evidence to indict a criminal in a grand jury why not Obama? It is at least in the court of public opinion.
- We have the Kenyan Grandma stating Obama was born in Hawaii.
- We have the Canadian National Post newspaper claim that the biography of Barack Obama is a national secret in Canada. Gee, I wonder why? /sarc
- We have evidence of Obama using numerous social security numbers. Gee the Commie could not get a genuine SS number to call his own? It's what illegal aliens and criminals do.
- We have damning evidence that the COLBs that Obama put online at the DailyKos and "FactCheck".com are forgeries.
- We have proof that Obama spent about 2 million dollars on the leftist firm of Perkins and Coie to squash all of Obama record requests before the Government lawyers took over the eligibility cases in June of 2009. - We have overwhelming evidence that a natural born citizen is that of the de Vattel definition of being born in the country and of citizen parents is Constitutional law.
- We have the actions of Obama acting and being a foreigner as president, and he has recently stated that being an 'American is not of blood or birth'. Sure sounds like an in-your-face challenge that you cannot do anything about it.
This is not a comprehensive list of Obama usurpation but it cover the gist of it.
And we have After-Birther trolls who say you are all wrong... However, we and they know they are all full of *&%&&^%!
So who are the ones trying to uphold the US Constitution as in the meaning and intent of the founders? We all know the answers to that and it's not the After-Birther trolls.
'We have the Kenyan Grandma stating Obama was born in Hawaii.'
change to,
We have the Kenyan Grandma stating that Obama was born in KENYA.
Very well said, Red Steel.
In fact, everything you say is undeniable and crystal clear.
Thanks.
'We have the Kenyan Grandma stating Obama was born in Hawaii.'
change to,
We have the Kenyan Grandma stating that Obama was born in KENYA.
Actually, you were right the first time. She never said he was born in Kenya.
Oh yeah she did. The Kenyan grandma said it.
Question: Was he born in Mombasa?
Paternal grandma: Obama Mombasa.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OirvxsUsxb0&feature=related
At 9:54 on the recording she says it.
No she doesn't. I listened to it, and either you are lying, or you imagined her saying something she didn't say.
In fact, later on in the interview, she explicitly says he was born in Hawaii. You can read a full transcript here:
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/obamatranscriptlulu109.pdf
Isn't it interesting that the tape to which you link cuts off before that point?
Oh yeah she did you clown. The Grandma said so in her initial responseS until her translator started to spout the party Obama line. Her first responses are the honest ones. Lying is what you do. You need to listen again.
This exchange and recording was submitted along with a sworn affidavit to the federal court of the United States.
Isn't it interesting that the tape to which you link cuts off before that point?
I doubt you listened to the whole thing. The first part is the reading of the affidavit by a computer generated voice.
There was two questions. The first one comes at 8:54.
Question: Was she present when he was born in Kenya?
Paternal Grandma through the translator (grandson) : Yes, She was present when he was born.
We have two affirmative answers that Barack Obama Jr. was born in Kenya.
I see. So the translator got a memo in the middle of the conversation, and decided to join the Kenyan birth cover-up after answering the first question honestly but before answering the second one deceptively?
One has to stop and wonder what the point of McRae sending "Kweli Shuhubia" was. Because, according to the cover-up version, "Shuhubia" sat there contently while the translator repeatedly said Obama was born in Hawaii, and yet "Shuhubia" never speaks up and corrects the translation.
Ah, but you say, "Shuhubia" claimed a couple of weeks later in his "affidavit" that the translation was faulty!
Curious thing: the "Shuhubia affidavit" was largely copied from McRae's earlier affidavit. Word-for-word. And it was signed with a cut-and-pasted jpeg, instead of a real signature. And it's not notarized. And nowhere does the "affidavit" mention that the affiant's name is a pseudonym.
But yeah, I'm sure "Kweli Shuhubia" is the trustworthy one, and the translator was the one deceiving everyone.
The deception was from the grandson translator who tried to change grandma's answer. Below is excerpts from Kweli Shuhadia affidavit.
And Continuing,
One has to stop and wonder what the point of McRae sending "Kweli Shuhubia" was. Because, according to the cover-up version, "Shuhubia" sat there contently while the translator repeatedly said Obama was born in Hawaii, and yet "Shuhubia" never speaks up and corrects the translation.
Boy do you grasp at straws.
Curious thing: the "Shuhubia affidavit" was largely copied from McRae's earlier affidavit. Word-for-word. And it was signed with a cut-and-pasted jpeg,
You're still grasping at flying straws. That's a big so what. The correct answer is they both agreed to the same set of facts that transpired. A cut and paste jpg? Oh, come on now.
instead of a real signature. And it's not notarized. And nowhere does the "affidavit" mention that the affiant's name is a pseudonym.
I suppose Phil Berg committed perjury in federal court too since he submitted the two affidavits from McRae and Shuhadia and the transcript of the recording with his suit. LoL!
And why do you believe the unsigned, unnotarized affidavit of an anonymous person over the actual audiotape?
Also, I already pointed out that "Shuhubia"s description of the conversation is flat-out copied from McRae's (McRae's is hand-dated October 27, Shuhubia's is type-dated October 30). And McRae doesn't know Swahili, so he can't testify to any mistranslation. So why is "Shuhubia"s copied testimony from McRae a credible account of supposed translation mischief?
That's a big so what. The correct answer is they both agreed to the same set of facts that transpired. A cut and paste jpg? Oh, come on now.
You think the fact that the document is unsigned and unnotarized is no big deal? How do you know anyone in Kenya ever even SAW that document, much less approved it? That's the whole point of having affidavits signed and notarized: to ensure that they've been read and approved by the affiant.
I suppose Phil Berg committed perjury in federal court too since he submitted the two affidavits from McRae and Shuhadia and the transcript of the recording with his suit.
I'm pretty sure Berg prepared the "Shuhubia affidavit" on his computer. The style of the case is presented in exactly the same format as Berg's other filings (which is not the same as any other parties' filings in the case), and the Shuhubia document has an I-drive file location as a footer on the bottom of each page, which is the same footer that appears on several other Berg filings that he prepared in Microsoft Word. "Shuhubia" also repeatedly misspells "Mombasa" in the same way that Berg did in his Request for Admissions. And, as I pointed out, "Shuhubia" practically cut-and-pasted McRae's description of the conversation.
Berg never submitted more than a truncated and edited transcript to the court. The transcript you indicate as "Exhibit C" simply cut out every response that said Obama was born in Hawaii.
Also, McRae claimed in his affidavit that "Shuhubia"s name was being "temporarily withheld." Well, it's nearly two years later, and "Shuhubia" is still a phantom. And the photos that McRae said would be released, showing "hundreds" of people at the conversation? They've also mysteriously never materialized.
No she did not, and your calling me names won't change that.
The Grandma said so in her initial responseS until her translator started to spout the party Obama line.
You have absolutely no credible evidence to back up that claim.
This exchange and recording was submitted along with a sworn affidavit to the federal court of the United States.
As Loren C pointed out, an unsigned and unnotorized affidavit is not evidence.
I doubt you listened to the whole thing.
I sure did. Did you?
Unfortunately, the link you posted DOES NOT contain the full recording. It cuts off right before she says he was born in Hawaii.
And no, I am not relying on her grandson translator to assertain that. You can hear very clearly a woman's voice saying "Hawaii" in the background. Now unless there was some other woman present at the interview, and by all accounts there wasn't, that's pretty likely to be Sarah.
Phil Berg submitted their affidavits in court oh yes he did. It is signed by Shuhadia. They are genuine and you are out in deep left field as usual.
Also, I already pointed out that "Shuhubia"s description of the conversation is flat-out copied from McRae's (McRae's is hand-dated October 27,
They could have signed the same exact statement and had submitted it to the court as evidence.
Shuhubia's is type-dated October 30). And McRae doesn't know Swahili, so he can't testify to any mistranslation. So why is "Shuhubia"s copied testimony from McRae a credible account of supposed translation mischief?
But they both know English. And English was spoken over the phone. Shuhubia was not alone doing the translation. He was assisted by Mr. Vitalis and Akech Ogombe. The recording backs McRae and Shuhubia's testimonies of the event to the hilt. You grasp at straws. Shuhubia was there in grandma Obama's house and can testify to what happened and said. The whole thing was on speaker phone. There was no "mischief" except in your imagination.
I'm pretty sure Berg prepared the "Shuhubia affidavit" on his computer.
And if Shuhabia agreed with McRae he could have signed the same and it still could have been sent in as a valid affidavit. Their affidavits stand as part of the court record.
Well, it's nearly two years later, and "Shuhubia" is still a phantom.
He doesn't live in this country. He lives in Africa - right? LoL! So it is no wonder you can't "find" him so easily.
Also, McRae claimed in his affidavit that "Shuhubia"s name was being "temporarily withheld."
As I provided in this post, I see a signed affidavit above by Shuhubia. Kweli Shuhubia affidavit was submitted by Berg as factual evidence.
I'll use descriptions about posters when they posts absurdities.
You have absolutely no credible evidence to back up that claim.
See what I mean. This is what I call a clown posting.
As Loren C pointed out, an unsigned and unnotorized affidavit is not evidence.
You shouldn't put so much faith in the pied piper of PolitiJunk.com aka Politijab.com.
Unfortunately, the link you posted DOES NOT contain the full recording. It cuts off right before she says he was born in Hawaii.
Did you read the affidavit? The witness addressed that part of the subject. Gee, after the 2 questions answered of Obama being born in Kenya, he then remembered the Barack Obama BS storyline and interjected.
And no, I am not relying on her grandson translator to assertain that. You can hear very clearly a woman's voice saying "Hawaii" in the background. Now unless there was some other woman present at the interview, and by all accounts there wasn't, that's pretty likely to be Sarah.
Grandam Sarah is on record that she confirmed that Obama was born in Kenya before she changed her story. That cannot be undone.
I don't need LorenC to see that the affidavit is not notorized.
Did you read the affidavit? The witness addressed that part of the subject.
Yes I did. Did you notice that it isn't notorized? That makes it worthless as evidence.
Gee, after the 2 questions answered of Obama being born in Kenya,
Again, she never made any such answer. You are either lying or delusional.
Grandam Sarah is on record that she confirmed that Obama was born in Kenya before she changed her story.
No she is not, your attempts to change reality not withstanding.
Glad to see this info about Grandma Sarah’s phone interview again.
It’s patently obvious that she is saying 0thugga was born in Kenya, for one; and second, that the 0thugga toadies know what the truth is but are lying and being their usual sychophant disrupting little selves hoping to muddy the water so their boy won’t get the hook and be dragged out of the White House.
I don’t think for a minute they even believe the crap they post. It’s their duty/job/avocation or whatever.
I never said he didn't. Where did you think I said that?
It is signed by Shuhadia. They are genuine
It's charming that Birthers will be adamantly skeptical of a letter on White House stationary with Obama's signature, but when confronted with an anonymous document "signed" only with an illegible jpeg? Why, that's "genuine"!
They could have signed the same exact statement and had submitted it to the court as evidence.
That would've been a good way to eliminate the three pages of irrelevant rambling and false information that precede the discussion of Sarah Obama in McRae's affidavit. The name "Sarah" doesn't even get MENTIONED until page 4.
Shuhubia was there in grandma Obama's house and can testify to what happened and said.
So it is no wonder you can't "find" him so easily.
Again, where did you get the idea I'm trying to "find" him? In fact, where are you quoting "find" from?
My point was that in HIS affidavit, McRae wrote of the mystery minister, "actual name temporarily withheld." Temporarily. It's twenty months later, and there's still no actual name disclosed.
The whole thing was on speaker phone. There was no "mischief" except in your imagination.
No, no, I'm not accusing the translator of mischief. YOU are. It's in YOUR imagination that he decided mid-conversation to start misrepresenting her answers.
As I provided in this post, I see a signed affidavit above by Shuhubia.
And I see a jpeg containing an illegible scribble, pasted into the spot where a *real* signature ought to be.
You do know that real affidavits can't be signed with cut-and-paste pictures of signatures, right? If you cut-and-paste a signature, the signature might have come from an unrelated document. Like I said before, the point of signing and notarizing is to ensure that the affiant has actually reviewed and approved the document. The "Shuhubia affidavit" rather conveniently avoids these most basic affidavit requirements.
Kweli Shuhubia affidavit was submitted by Berg as factual evidence.
Berg cited a phony Canadian birth certificate signed by "Dudley Doright" as factual evidence. Berg cited Italian Wikipedia as factual evidence. Berg even cited unspecified internet rumors as factual evidence.
Heck, as one of the exhibits to the McRae affidavit itself, Berg submitted a completely fake Kenyan document to the court. And McRae even discusses the fake document at length in his affidavit (before he gets around to Sarah Obama), pretending that it's real.
So yeah, the fact that Berg submitted something as fact is hardly evidence of it being fact.
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